On Friday, March 21, 2014 2:23:25 AM UTC+5:30, Ned Batchelder wrote:
On 3/20/14 4:42 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
Ned Batchelder :
Plenty of people have adopted a dual-support strategy, with one code
base that supports both Python 2 and Python 3. The six module can help
a great deal with
On Friday, March 21, 2014 8:53:49 AM UTC+5:30, wrote:
On Thursday, March 20, 2014 11:16:50 PM UTC-4, Dave Angel wrote:
Hello good people I am working on a caeser cipher program for class.
However, I ran into a problem with my outputs. Up to a certain point for
example:
1. two('y',
On Friday, March 21, 2014 11:38:42 AM UTC+5:30, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
Chris Angelico :
Then you're probably not using sys.stdout.write but some other file
object's write method.
Correct, sys.stderr.write would have been a more accurate choice.
Also, I find it highly unusual that you
On Saturday, March 22, 2014 2:12:53 AM UTC+5:30, vasudevram wrote:
Hi list,
Can anyone - maybe one of the Python language core team, or someone with
knowledge of the internals of Python - can explain why this code works, and
whether the different occurrences of the name x in the expression,
On Saturday, March 22, 2014 2:26:09 AM UTC+5:30, vasudevram wrote:
On Saturday, March 22, 2014 2:24:00 AM UTC+5:30, Rustom Mody wrote:
Lets try without comprehending comprehensions :-)
x=[[1,2],[3,4]]
for x in x:
... for x in x:
... print x
...
1
2
3
4
Nice
On Saturday, March 22, 2014 3:00:10 AM UTC+5:30, Ian wrote:
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 3:09 PM, Rustom Mody wrote:
A 'for' introduces a scope:
This is false.
And
On Saturday, March 22, 2014 3:04:48 AM UTC+5:30, Gregory Ewing wrote:
A 'for' introduces a scope:
No, it doesn't!
Ha
On Saturday, March 22, 2014 8:11:27 AM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 1:06 PM, Rustom Mody wrote:
Two: A comprehension variable is not bound but reassigned across the
comprehension. This problem remains in python3 and causes weird behavior
when
lambdas are put
On Saturday, March 22, 2014 10:21:13 AM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 3:39 PM, Rustom Mody wrote:
So if that's not going to be broken, how is this fundamentally different?
def func_loop():
for x in 1,2,3:
yield (lambda: x)
Thats using a for-loop
On Saturday, March 22, 2014 10:21:13 AM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 3:39 PM, Rustom Mody wrote:
So if that's not going to be broken, how is this fundamentally different?
def func_loop():
for x in 1,2,3:
yield (lambda: x)
Thats using a for-loop
On Saturday, March 22, 2014 2:39:56 PM UTC+5:30, Ian wrote:
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 8:06 PM, Rustom Mody wrote:
Two: A comprehension variable is not bound but reassigned across the
comprehension. This problem remains in python3 and causes weird behavior
when
lambdas are put
On Saturday, March 22, 2014 7:52:28 PM UTC+5:30, Ian wrote:
On Mar 20, 2014 9:59 PM, Dave Angel da...@davea.name wrote:
dtra...@gmail.com Wrote in message:
And I was wondering how I would add the partenthesis because I tried:
return numtochar(c1 + c2 (%26)) and it gave me an error.
The foll is fairly standard fare in denotational semantics -- please excuse
the length!
In order to understand (formally) the concept of 'variable'
we need to have at the least a concept of name(or identifier) - value mapping.
This mapping is called an 'environment'
If we stop at that we get the
On Sunday, March 23, 2014 8:16:28 AM UTC+5:30, Ian wrote:
On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 6:32 PM, Rhodri James wrote:
wrote:
Well almost...
Except that the 'loop' I am talking of is one of
def loop():
return [yield (lambda: x) for x in [1,2,3]]
or
return (yield (lambda: x) for x
On Sunday, March 23, 2014 6:37:11 PM UTC+5:30, Jens Thoms Toerring wrote:
Simon Hardy-Francis wrote:
Hi Python fans, I just released my first open source project ever called
SharedHashFile [1]. It's a shared memory hash table written in C. Some guy
on Quora asked [2] whether there's an
On Monday, March 24, 2014 8:57:32 AM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Rhodri James wrote:
Would you not consider this to be declarative?
x = [1, 2, 3]
I'm not sure I would. I look at that line of code and think of it as
Create a list..., very much in
On Monday, March 17, 2014 6:36:33 PM UTC+5:30, Frank Millman wrote:
Hi all
I know I *should* be using a Source Control Management system, but at
present I am not. I tried to set up Mercurial a couple of years ago, but I
think I set it up wrongly, as I got myself confused and found it more
On Monday, March 24, 2014 7:34:59 PM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Mon, 24 Mar 2014 22:49:38 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote:
wrote:
You never *need* (Python's) lambda for anything. Inner functions are
more capable and almost always more readable. It doesn't hurt to have
lambda, but I
On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 5:28:11 AM UTC+5:30, Ian wrote:
On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 3:43 PM, Mark H Harris wrote:
On 3/24/14 4:03 AM, Ian Kelly wrote:
The difference does not really lie in the lambda construct per se but in
the binding style of closures. Functional languages tend to go one
On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 8:47:35 AM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 2:00 PM, Rustom Mody wrote:
Yeah: Its 2014 (at least out here)...
About time we started using unicode in earnest dont you think??
We do.
Id like to see the following spellings corrected
On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 12:28:16 AM UTC+5:30, Mark H. Harris wrote:
On 3/24/14 4:58 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
Where do you get reduce from if it's not in the standard library?
That was a proposal for 3000. Its there, but its not on the
built-ins; ie., you have to import it. The
On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 8:47:35 AM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 2:00 PM, Rustom Mody wrote:
Yeah: Its 2014 (at least out here)...
About time we started using unicode in earnest dont you think??
We do.
Id like to see the following spellings corrected
On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 9:29:57 AM UTC+5:30, Mark H. Harris wrote:
On 3/24/14 10:51 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
Supporting both may look tempting, but you effectively create two ways
of spelling the exact same thing; it'd be like C's trigraphs. Do you
know what ??= is,
This was a fit for
On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 9:59:48 AM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Rustom Mody wrote:
And Chris is right in (rephrasing) we may have unicode-happy OSes and
languages. We cant reasonably have unicode-happy keyboards.
[What would a million-key keyboard
On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 10:38:43 AM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 4:00 PM, Rustom Mody wrote:
Its already there -- and even easier
Switch to cyrillic-jis-russian (whatever that is!)
and I get л from k Л from K
How quickly can you switch, type one letter
On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 10:44:42 AM UTC+5:30, Mark H. Harris wrote:
On 3/25/14 12:08 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
How quickly can you switch, type one letter (to generate one Cyrillic
character), and switch back?
... very fast.
Is not this nicer?
Π = pi
sin(Π/4)
On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 11:04:40 AM UTC+5:30, Mark H. Harris wrote:
On 3/25/14 12:27 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
my pdeclib constants extension will have alternate spellings for Π and
Γ
and Δ and others...
That's good! (Although typing Π quicker than pi is majorly pushing it.
On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 11:17:51 AM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Tue, 25 Mar 2014 14:57:02 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote:
wrote:
What you are missing is that programmers spend 90% of their time
reading code
10% writing code
You may well be in the super-whiz category (not being
On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 11:42:50 AM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 4:47 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Tue, 25 Mar 2014 14:57:02 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote:
No, I'm not missing that. But the human brain is a tokenizer, just as
Python is. Once you know what a
On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 12:03:24 PM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 5:10 PM, Rustom Mody wrote:
Something that Chris may relate to:
You type a music score into lilypond
Then call lilypond to convert it into standard western staff notation
Why not put up
On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 12:15:11 PM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 5:35 PM, Rustom Mody wrote:
I dont think we are anywhere near making real suggestions for real changes
which would need to talk of compatibility, portability, editor support
and all such other
On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 12:33:49 PM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Mon, 24 Mar 2014 20:56:19 -0700, Rustom Mody wrote:
Paren vs tuples: why do we need to write (x,) not (x)
You don't. You can write x, without the brackets:
py t = 23,
py type(t)
It's the comma that makes tuples
On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 5:16:14 PM UTC+5:30, Antoon Pardon wrote:
On 25-03-14 12:14, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Would
such a use already indicate I should use a mathematical front-end?
When a programming language is borrowing concepts from mathematics, I
see no reason not to borrow the
On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 4:08:38 PM UTC+5:30, Antoon Pardon wrote:
So? We do use + -, so why shouldn't we use × for multiplication. Would
such a use already indicate I should use a mathematical front-end?
When a programming language is borrowing concepts from mathematics,
I see no reason
On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 6:15:16 PM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 11:07 PM, Antoon Pardon
On 25-03-14 12:12, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 9:24 PM, Antoon Pardon
No they didn't have to. With the transition to python3, the developers
could have
On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 7:26:47 PM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 12:43 AM, Antoon Pardon
It doesn't bother me. IIRC in primary school before fractions were
introduced,
a colon was used to indicate division.
The way I learned it, a colon was for a ratio, and a
On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 7:13:09 PM UTC+5:30, Antoon Pardon wrote:
On 25-03-14 13:53, Rustom Mody wrote:
On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 4:08:38 PM UTC+5:30, Antoon Pardon wrote:
So? We do use + -, so why shouldn't we use × for multiplication. Would
such a use already indicate I should use
On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 7:53:23 PM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Tue, 25 Mar 2014 05:53:45 -0700, Rustom Mody wrote:
And if we had hyphen '‐' distinguished from minus '-' then we could have
lispish names like call‐with‐current‐continuation properly spelt. And
then generations
On Wednesday, March 26, 2014 12:22:40 AM UTC+5:30, wxjm...@gmail.com wrote:
Le mardi 25 mars 2014 19:30:34 UTC+1, Mark H. Harris a écrit :
greetings, I would like to create a lamda as follows:
√ = lambda n: sqrt(n)
On my keyboard mapping the problem character is alt-v which produces
the
On Wednesday, March 26, 2014 10:00:21 AM UTC+5:30, Terry Reedy wrote:
On 3/25/2014 8:12 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Tue, 25 Mar 2014 19:55:39 -0400, Terry Reedy wrote:
On 3/25/2014 11:18 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
The thing is, we can't just create a ∑ function, because it doesn't
work
On Wednesday, March 26, 2014 9:35:53 PM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Wed, 26 Mar 2014 00:30:21 -0400, Terry Reedy wrote:
On 3/25/2014 8:12 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Tue, 25 Mar 2014 19:55:39 -0400, Terry Reedy wrote:
On 3/25/2014 11:18 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
The thing is,
On Wednesday, March 26, 2014 11:02:04 PM UTC+5:30, Rustom Mody wrote:
On Wednesday, March 26, 2014 9:35:53 PM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Wed, 26 Mar 2014 00:30:21 -0400, Terry Reedy wrote:
One passes an unquoted expression in code by quoting it with either
lambda, paired quote
On Thursday, March 27, 2014 5:13:21 AM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Thu, 27 Mar 2014 09:24:49 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote:
wrote:
Now actual python
def sumjensen(i_get, i_set,lower,upper,exp):
tot = 0
i_set(lower)
while i_get() = upper:
tot += exp_get()
On Thursday, March 27, 2014 8:53:29 AM UTC+5:30, James Smith wrote:
I can't get this to work.
It runs but there is no output when I try it on a file.
#!/usr/bin/python
import os
import sys
import re
from datetime import datetime
#logDir =
On Thursday, March 27, 2014 4:15:19 AM UTC+5:30, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
Chris Angelico :
You prove here that Python has first-class expressions in the same way
that 80x86 assembly language has garbage collection. Sure, you can
implement it using the primitives you have, but that's not
On Thursday, March 27, 2014 3:06:02 PM UTC+5:30, Antoon Pardon wrote:
On 26-03-14 17:37, Ian Kelly wrote:
On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 2:52 AM, Antoon Pardon
Of course we don't have to follow mathematical convention with python.
However allowing any
unicode symbol as an identifier doesn't
On Thursday, March 27, 2014 8:58:51 PM UTC+5:30, Mark H. Harris wrote:
On 3/25/14 6:58 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
To quote a great Spaniard:
“You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you
think it means.”
In~con~theveable ! My name is Inigo Montoya, you
On Thursday, March 27, 2014 9:52:40 PM UTC+5:30, Ian wrote:
On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Mark H Harris wrote:
Do you think that the ability to write this would be an improvement?
import ⌺
⌚ = ⌺.╩░
⑥ = 5*⌺.⋨⋩
❹ = ⑥ - 1
♅⚕⚛ = [⌺.✱✳**⌺.❇*❹{⠪|⌚.∣} for ⠪ in ⌺.⣚]
⌺.˘˜¨´՛՜(♅⚕⚛)
On Thursday, March 27, 2014 10:47:04 PM UTC+5:30, MRAB wrote:
On 2014-03-27 15:51, Rustom Mody wrote:
On Thursday, March 27, 2014 8:58:51 PM UTC+5:30, Mark H. Harris wrote:
On 3/25/14 6:58 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
To quote a great Spaniard:
“You keep using that word, I do
On Friday, March 28, 2014 3:44:09 AM UTC+5:30, Mark H. Harris wrote:
On 3/27/14 4:42 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
And this is the bit where, I think, we disagree. I think that
programming is for programmers, in the same way that music is for
musicians and the giving of legal advice is for
On Friday, March 28, 2014 8:36:26 AM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 1:46 PM, Rustom Mody wrote:
Moore’s Law isn’t a mythical beast that magically materialized in 1965
and threatens to unpredictably vanish at any moment. In fact, it’s
part of a broader ancient
On Friday, March 28, 2014 8:43:21 AM UTC+5:30, Roy Smith wrote:
Chris Angelico wrote:
Your syntax there looks reasonable already. I'd recommend you make it
a flat data file, though, don't try to make it a programming language
- unless you actively need it to be one. Here are a couple of
On Friday, March 28, 2014 9:27:11 AM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 2:44 PM, Rustom Mody wrote:
[BTW I consider the windows registry cleaner than the linux /etc for
the same reason]
And if I felt like trolling, I'd point out that there are a lot more
search engine
On Friday, March 28, 2014 2:34:07 PM UTC+5:30, alister wrote:
On Fri, 28 Mar 2014 14:57:11 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote:
wrote:
[BTW I consider the windows registry cleaner than the linux /etc for
the same reason]
And if I felt like trolling, I'd point out that there are a lot more
On Friday, March 28, 2014 5:44:48 PM UTC+5:30, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
Rustom Mody wrote:
On the other hand in linux I find that when something is upgraded and
needs to upgrade *its own* config files in /etc it can often have
trouble.
Linux (service) configuration has given me a lot
On Friday, March 28, 2014 6:52:15 PM UTC+5:30, Roy Smith wrote:
Chris Angelico wrote:
On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 12:10 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
If encapsulation exists outside OO and inheritance is not key to it,
what is OO then, a marketing term?
Yep, OO is a marketing term. So's
On Saturday, March 29, 2014 8:34:19 AM UTC+5:30, Mark H. Harris wrote:
On 3/28/14 9:33 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Mark, please stop posting to the newsgroup comp.lang.python AND the
mailing list (...). They mirror each other. Your posts
are not so important that we need to see everything
On Saturday, March 29, 2014 12:25:45 AM UTC+5:30, rand...@fastmail.us wrote:
On Thu, Mar 27, 2014, at 11:10, Rustom Mody wrote:
Just out of curiosity how do/did you type that?
When I see an exotic denizen from the unicode-universe I paste it into
emacs and ask Who are you?
But with your
On Saturday, March 29, 2014 10:38:47 AM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 3:40 PM, Mark H Harris wrote:
On 3/28/14 10:51 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
You are being patronising to the 94% of the world that is not from the
USA. Do you honestly think that people all over
On Saturday, March 29, 2014 11:21:17 AM UTC+5:30, Mark H. Harris wrote:
On 3/29/14 12:08 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
Okay. History lesson time.
Tell me what is the lingua franka today?
Is it, E n g l i s h ?
I wonder Mark, if because you are communicating with your mailing
On Sunday, March 30, 2014 8:09:45 AM UTC+5:30, Roy Smith wrote:
I have no particular problem with
x 2 y
because it fits the same pattern. But, if you show me
a != None != b:
my brain just goes into overload. Honestly, I don't even know what that
means. My brain keeps trying to
On Monday, March 31, 2014 12:23:55 PM UTC+5:30, Ben Finney wrote:
Mark, you are demonstrating a habit of making sweeping pronouncements
and assertions; and then, when those statements are challenged, you
act as though you never said them.
Here's a characteristic example:
Mark H Harris
On Monday, March 31, 2014 9:33:54 PM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 2:40 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
As a simple layout question, I'd do it like this:
if mode == Brake2:
# Already got the
On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 3:26 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Haskell has nifty pattern-matching syntax for this that looks quite close
to the mathematical hybrid function syntax, but in Python, we're limited
to explicitly using an if. If I were coding this, and I'm not, I'd wrap
it in a function.
On Tuesday, April 1, 2014 6:38:14 PM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 11:29 PM, Roy Smith wrote:
But I confess that is mostly personal taste, since I find names_like_this
ugly. Names-like-this look better to me but that wouldn't be workable
in python. But maybe there
On Tuesday, April 1, 2014 7:14:15 PM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 12:33 AM, Ned Batchelder wrote:
Maybe I'm misunderstanding the discussion... It seems like we're talking
about a hypothetical definition of identifiers based on Unicode character
categories, but
On Tuesday, April 1, 2014 9:29:27 PM UTC+5:30, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
Chris Angelico :
On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 12:16 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
I implemented the loops in the scheme way. Recursion is how iteration
is done by the Believers.
Then I'm happily a pagan who uses while loops
On Wednesday, April 2, 2014 8:28:02 AM UTC+5:30, Rustom Mody wrote:
On Tuesday, April 1, 2014 9:29:27 PM UTC+5:30, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
Chris Angelico :
On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 12:16 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
I implemented the loops in the scheme way. Recursion is how iteration
On Wednesday, April 2, 2014 6:52:04 PM UTC+5:30, Hareesha Karunakar wrote:
Hello Group,
I am using python's nose testing frame work for my automated testing.
I would like to run my python cases and generate only the documentation
without actually running/executing the cases.
How is this
On Wednesday, April 2, 2014 11:28:16 PM UTC+5:30, Roy Smith wrote:
I have a big hairy data structure which is a tree of nested dicts. I have a
sequence of strings which represents a path through the tree. Different
leaves in the tree will be at different depths (which range from 1 to about
On Thursday, April 3, 2014 8:11:33 AM UTC+5:30, Rustom Mody wrote:
On Wednesday, April 2, 2014 11:28:16 PM UTC+5:30, Roy Smith wrote:
I have a big hairy data structure which is a tree of nested dicts. I have
a sequence of strings which represents a path through the tree. Different
On Thursday, April 3, 2014 10:44:16 PM UTC+5:30, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
Mark H Harris:
So, python(3)'s use of unicode is exciting, not only as a step forward
for the python interpreter, but also as a leadership step forward in
computer science around the world.
Big words. I don't think
On Friday, April 4, 2014 3:23:31 PM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Thu, 03 Apr 2014 11:38:13 -0500, Mark H Harris wrote:
On 4/1/14 5:33 PM, Terry Reedy wrote:
hi Terry, hope you are well today, despite gmane difficulties;
If you narrowly meant The python interpreter only
On Saturday, April 5, 2014 2:28:29 AM UTC+5:30, Mark H. Harris wrote:
hi Mark, yes that's my point. I have heard rumors of python2.8? At some
point I would expect that the Cpython interpreter would 'freeze' and no
one would fix it any longer. I have a serious question, namely, why does
the
On Saturday, April 5, 2014 11:27:08 AM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 4:29 PM, Ben Finney wrote:
Without actual data - which neither of us has on this matter - all of
these hypotheses are unfounded speculation. Let's not draw any
conclusions in the absence of
On Sunday, April 6, 2014 1:40:58 PM UTC+5:45, Devin Jeanpierre wrote:
You can choose to define mutability that way, but in many contexts
you'll find that definition not very useful.
c is such that you could have another variable d, where the following
interpreter session fragment is easily
On Sunday, April 6, 2014 10:22:21 PM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Sun, 06 Apr 2014 12:05:16 +0300, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
Mark H Harris :
On 4/4/14 4:53 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Python is not a computer-science-ey language.
Every programming language is interesting from a comp
On Sunday, April 6, 2014 11:24:15 PM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 3:31 AM, Rustom Mody wrote:
However consider that some of the things that people did around 40 years
ago and do today
- use FORTRAN for numerical/simulation work -- now use scipy/sage etc
- NLP
On Monday, April 7, 2014 6:15:47 AM UTC+5:30, Terry Reedy wrote:
On 4/6/2014 7:48 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Sun, 06 Apr 2014 23:10:47 +0300, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
Steven D'Aprano :
On Sun, 06 Apr 2014 12:05:16 +0300, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
Python, BTW, is perfectly suitable for
On Monday, April 7, 2014 12:16:54 AM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 4:13 AM, Rustom Mody wrote:
Using Python at the design stage would be what Steven's talking about
- actually using it to build the theory of programming. I have about
as much experience in the area
On Monday, April 7, 2014 8:24:37 AM UTC+5:30, Onder Hazaroglu wrote:
Hello,
I've been using threading library to run some experiments parallel. There is
no message passing between my threads but still it messes up somehow. The
results are different than running it separated. Basically I
On Tuesday, April 8, 2014 7:03:31 AM UTC+5:30, Mark H. Harris wrote:
I have another question for y'all, is a function (particularly a
generator) a noun or a verb? Does a function (or generator) 'do'
something (based on name and parms) or does it 'return' something based
on name and
On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 4:02:10 AM UTC+5:30, Sturla Molden wrote:
On 08/04/14 22:30, Grant Edwards wrote:
Unix maybe, but what about Windows? Is it efficient to create
processes under Windows?
Processes are very heavy-weight on Windows.
Not surprising given its VMS heritage. I
On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 9:36:40 PM UTC+5:30, trewio wrote:
How to extract files from U-Boot image file, LZMA-compressed?
Is there a Python script that can do this properly?
For lzma theres this (recent) python library
https://docs.python.org/dev/library/lzma.html
Though you might just be
On Thursday, April 10, 2014 10:55:10 AM UTC+5:30, balaji marisetti wrote:
There was long thread discussing flattening of a list on this list :).
See the link below.
I dont think that thread is relevant to this question:
1. That (started with) a strange/cute way of using names
2. It does not
This is called imperative programming:
for it in x:
... if it.strip() != '':
...print (Ok)
This is called functional programming:
[y for y in x if y.strip() != '']
['x1', 'x2', 'x3']
What you have is a confusion:
print is imperative
comprehension is functional
You should not mix them
On Thursday, April 10, 2014 10:38:49 PM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 2:25 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
I don't know Python's asyncio as it's very new and I haven't yet found
an excuse to use it, but with Pike, I just engage backend mode, set
callbacks on the
On Thursday, April 10, 2014 9:24:48 PM UTC+5:30, Lalitha Prasad K wrote:
Dear List
Recently I was requested to teach python to a group of students of GIS
(Geographic Information Systems). Their knowledge of programming is zero. The
objective is to enable them to write plug-ins for GIS
On Friday, April 11, 2014 1:14:01 AM UTC+5:30, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
Seriously, Erlang (and Go) have nice tools for managing state machines
and concurrency. However, Python (and C) are perfectly suitable for
clear asynchronous programming idioms. I'm happy that asyncio is
happening after
On Friday, April 11, 2014 4:10:22 AM UTC+5:30, Rhodri James wrote:
Sorry your post was the straw to break the camel's back this week, but it
is a complete pain to the rest of us. I have more than once considered
getting my reader to automatically discard anything with
@googlegroups.com
On Friday, April 11, 2014 3:31:50 AM UTC+5:30, Rhodri James wrote:
On Wed, 09 Apr 2014 18:18:56 +0100, Rustom Mody
After that.. whats the U-boot format?
The Fine Manual (http://www.denx.de/wiki/view/DULG/UBootImages) isn't very
forthcoming, sadly;
U-Boot operates on image files which
On Friday, April 11, 2014 9:29:00 AM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Rustom Mody wrote:
There are cultures -- far more pervasive than USENET in 2014 -- where
top posting is the norm, eg
- Gmail makes top posting the norm. Compare the figures of gmail
On Friday, April 11, 2014 2:14:42 AM UTC+5:30, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
Rustom Mody:
What you are saying is that what the OS is doing, you can do better.
Analogous to said C programmer saying that what (data structures) the
python programmer can make he can do better.
I'm sorry, but I
On Friday, April 11, 2014 10:41:26 AM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 2:37 PM, Rustom Mody wrote:
Right. Its true that when I was at a fairly large corporate, I was not told:
Please always top post!
What I was very gently and super politely told was:
Please dont
On Friday, April 11, 2014 11:12:14 AM UTC+5:30, Rustom Mody wrote:
On Friday, April 11, 2014 10:41:26 AM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
Also unhelpful is to suggest that norms should, simply *because* they
are the prevailing practice, be maintained. Even if everyone else on
python-list top
On Friday, April 11, 2014 10:45:08 AM UTC+5:30, Rustom Mody wrote:
On Friday, April 11, 2014 2:14:42 AM UTC+5:30, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
(1) oversimplification which makes it difficult to extend the design
and handle all of the real-world contingencies
This I dont...
I meant Dont
...
Anyway since you are requesting said help, here goes:
On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 22:42:14 -0700, Rustom Mody wrote:
People whose familiarity with religion is limited to the Judeo-Christian
tradition are inclined to the view (usually implicit) that being
religious == belief in God
However
On Friday, April 11, 2014 9:06:47 PM UTC+5:30, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
Rustom Mody:
On Friday, April 11, 2014 10:45:08 AM UTC+5:30, Rustom Mody wrote:
On Friday, April 11, 2014 2:14:42 AM UTC+5:30, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
(1) oversimplification which makes it difficult to extend
On Saturday, April 12, 2014 1:50:05 AM UTC+5:30, pete.b...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, April 10, 2014 3:40:22 PM UTC-7, Rhodri James wrote:
It's called irony, and unfortunately Mark is reacting to an all-to-common
situation that GoogleGroups foists on unsuspecting posters like yourself.
On Saturday, April 12, 2014 5:55:22 PM UTC+5:30, wxjm...@gmail.com wrote:
--
Regarding the Flexible String Representation, I have always
been very coherent in the examples I gave (usually with and/or
from an interactive intepreter - not relevant).
I never seen once somebody pointing or
On Tuesday, April 15, 2014 12:24:47 AM UTC+5:30, Claudiu Popa wrote:
Hello!
I'm planning a Python hackathon in my area, which will be held in a
couple of weeks. Being my first organized hackathon, I don't quite
know on what we will be working.
Just yesterday I discovered that kodos that
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