than
Zope, and there's maybe a dozen different ones to choose
from. Easier to learn, but probably more work in the long
run if you have to do a lot of script work on your site.
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to use single quotes, using double quotes
only when a single quote is embedded in the string.
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with that. More to the point, though, classes are instance
factories in Python. It's almost as if a class is nothing
more than a special category of functions that return
instances.
I don't know if I've helped at all, but I hope so. ;-)
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as almost Python, but
stupidly designed, because of stuff like this.
My apologies to Javascript fans, I acknowledge that my
opinion is subjective. ;-)
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you are launching the latter when you meant the former?
In any case, C Python cannot load Java classes (that's the
main raison d'etre for Jython).
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) and Python scripts in Zope.
Of course, there are a dozen other ways to do
web-programming in Python, too.
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Terry Hancock wrote:
Frankly this paper sounds like a bid for the Journal of
Irreproducible Results that somehow got accidentally
submitted to a serious journal
http://www.improbable.com/ig/ig-pastwinners.html
anything but such glue code.
For me, who no longer writes *any* C code, not having to
write the C code is a big win. And I think this is the PoV
relevant to the OP.
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any
*more* complicated. I still see newbie-friendliness as a
MAJOR plus for Python -- it increases the chance that users
of your software will become contributors.
I mean, even Perl was probably pretty simple in the
beginning. ;-)
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you access to
the embedded metadata in Ogg files, which sounds like it
might be useful in your application.
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as
motd()
Whatever motd() is.
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a serious journal, but I'm taking it at face value).
Of course, you *could* conclude that I'm just unskilled and
unaware of it for believing this -- but that's the beauty
of all self-reinforcing delusions, isn't it. ;-)
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perfectly, but I may have been doing something
wrong. Can't recover it at the moment, but some search
engine work might turn it up.
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is an art, not a science.
Object-oriented style is a subjective and fuzzy
aesthetic term, and what is most clear depends on what
you've seen before, and what you're trying to be clear
about.
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to LINUX (slowly) by customer demand (!) and I guess
don't want to do new COM projects.
FWIW, for me, Windows only=write off, so I'm glad you're
not going this route.
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this sort of thing.
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comment too -- I think this loses you a
little more time). But it's pretty trivial in practice,
because every subsequent time, it's gone.
z = x + y
At least, this is how I understand it.
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problem
by now. Maybe it was a lot harder than expected.
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On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 09:47:20 -0800
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Terry Hancock wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 13:44:19 -0800
Scott David Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Paragraph 3 in Why Python:
and later in that paragraph, I'd change:
... extensions that provide
in coordinates and make sure the
counterweight doesn't smack you in the head. ;-)). Now that
I'm out of it, though, I would like to be able to do some
types of amateur observing for fun (and for my kids).
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someone reads who is imagining that *they* are going to have
to learn this language (not pay someone else to).
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like the PyPy logo should surely be an Ouroboros!
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, or weren't film students, the
answer is Yes, my aunt has one.
Ironically, this is now funny for exactly the opposite
reason from the way it was intended!
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that was the point behind the
graffiti system for the Palm Pilot).
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it will remain underused so
long as English remains the most popular international trade
language.
In the meantime, though, I predict many luddites will
scream But it doesn't work on my vintage VT-220 terminal!
(And I may even be one of them).
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- ZODB 3.2.10 (same as in Zope 2.7.8)
- Zope 2.7.8
- Plone 2.1.1
... all built from source on Debian Woody.
The first option, if it works, would require that the ZODB
used by your application is the same as what Zope uses,
of course.
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know if you should do that on a 1600x1200 wallpaper
tho :D
I think he's thinking of how to get the values for the
master image.
Terry Hancock wrote:
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Sebastjan Trepca [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was wondering is it possible to find out which
colour
. ;-)
Seriously, that ought to do it. Bear in mind that you need
to use the right sampling mode (IIRC, you want ANTIALIAS).
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the market for this site. I'm
already sold on Python, after all, I just want something
useful that I can use to stay up-to-date, and to find other
Python resources if they move, get created, or if I just
lose track of the URLs.
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to move a lamp
you had shut off the power and rewire your house? Safe
abstraction levels are a big time-saver.
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with respect to them, and depend on their literal value (not
their identity as an object in memory).
If objects NEED to only be compared by identity, then they
should leave __eq__ alone and identity will be used when
they are compared.
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the airport, enthralled to watch the
planes launching, but strangely disappointed. One turned
to the other, and said Aww, that one didn't blow up
either.
;-)
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.
In reality, though, it is accidental, and very slight
resemblance. If you can somehow manage to take offense at
that, then please go get some counseling.
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a cross b
I don't remember where this is posted. The trick was in
overloading the , , or | to interact specially with
operator objects.
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On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 18:31:35 -0800
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Martelli) wrote:
Terry Hancock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
Nothing at all. But I still prefer tales of people who
have hacked their DVD players to be multi-region :-)
It isn't illegal in Canada anyway. And yes, it would
that would be
rather more constructive.
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is.
Same above. Although the deeper meaning an ellipsis shows
an omission is preserved. The ellipsis in the recursive
definition substitutes for a literal representation which
is conceptually infinite (although due to recursion limits
is really finite).
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On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 07:58:10 +
Steve Holden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Terry Hancock wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:28:15 +
Steve Holden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
They know that the average American could work it out.
They also know that the average American doesn't like
to do
On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 07:55:50 +
Steve Holden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Alex Martelli wrote:
Terry Hancock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
due to the Evil Conspiracy of region-coding, I couldn't
watch the British DVD even if I were to import it (Well,
yeah I could, but it would
it.
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this).
Now I don't suppose I should really get my nose all out
of joint over this sort of thing, but it's symbolic of
a lot of things that are wrong with the world right now.
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somebody
to fiddle with the prose, fiddle they will.
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suspect this is the sort of decision that was viewed
as too tricky.
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On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 06:57:06 +
Steve Holden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Terry Hancock wrote:
[...]
The ideal of don't repeat yourself seems to get
nudged out by repeat yourself exactly once when it's
really important to get it right. ;-)
I suppose most readers aren't old enough
On 9 Jan 2006 11:21:10 GMT
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Op 2006-01-06, Terry Hancock schreef
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On 6 Jan 2006 07:30:41 -0800
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in an init method I declare a variable
self.someLongName
later in a different method of the class
or something? (We
don't appreciate your code anymore). ;-)
I suppose some smart alec is going to argue that it goes
down in value because an authority declared it unworthy.
Would be about par for the course. ;-)
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carries the conotation of being a simple string,
although you could argue that it doesn't have to mean that).
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so that they don't interfere with
each other.
We call these things class instances in Python instead of
objects, because object applies to *all data* in
Python, even simple things like the number '1'. Class
instances are specifically objects defined as a member of a
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a dictionary how?
Use a dictionary by looking up words in it to check the
spelling.
D'oh! I was thinking a dictionary like {}.
Yeah, I meant like Websters', should've been clearer, I
guess, given the venue of this discussion. ;-)
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are hard to break.
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On Thu, 05 Jan 2006 22:18:39 -0600, Terry Hancock wrote:
Consider this:
def do_nothing(x):
pass
huge_tuple = (None,) * 1**4
do_nothing(huge_tuple)
If Python made a copy of huge_tuple before
* in Python, you want
PyGTK.
Otherwise, best GUI is very much a matter of opinion,
you'll find champions for every one. Tkinter is perhaps the
easiest to get simply because it comes with Python, but
wxPython, PyGTK and others are still very popular.
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'], or
spam.ham, for example). Not tuple or string because they
are immutable, and so don't have assignable references.
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for a nice figure, too,
which Free Software Magazine needs more of.
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binding. Thus their own arguments contradict
their desire to control your use of the software.
Mind you, I'm not necessarily rooting for either side of
this -- I'm just interpreting what I've read. The GPL is
a fascinating read, BTW, and it isn't particularly long. ;-)
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a natural exercise of
freedom 0.
Given that Google has been using this fact extensively, and
they have not been sued over it, I think it's a fairly
clearly established interpretation, whether it is popular or
not (but of course it's not a legal precedent until somebody
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really want or not depends on
how the module is meant to be used (is it a module or a
script?).
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are. It
encourages good separation between templates and code, which
is supposed to be a good thing according to the Zope Zen.
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not really
any less advisable than scripting in csh to begin with. ;-)
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hard enough ;-).
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that you have important
requirements for doing things a certain way. We assume that
you are mature enough to know the difference between
breaking the rules accidentally and breaking the rules on
purpose.
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to use Jython and run on the visitor's
machine, shouldn't you?
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shouldn't
count that much on that point. OTOH, I *would* be a user of
the friendlier Language Reference, so I'm in favor of
that.
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how
ImageMagick does it -- Postscript and PDF rendering is
delegated to ghostscript. So naturally, calling it directly
is faster.
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of unintentionally clobbering
local names. So it's certainly riskier in the sense of
likely to cause bugs.
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implementation concept is based on
alleviating a fear of litigation -- it forms the basis of a
defense. It is *not* a legal requirement, AFAICT.
Of course, IANAL. ;-)
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A
to the object 0 so there's no way it can mutate the object
A.
However, you could create an object Origin to use as a
vector zero:
Origin = Vector(0,0)
Or if you want to be shorter, more poetic, and make future
maintainers curse you, you can call it O:
O = Vector(0,0)
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including a claim that a release was targeted for early
November (2005), to provide this.
Now I can't find it again. Anyway, I was hoping someone
on c.l.p / python.org would have a reliable reference on
this.
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On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 15:27:01 -0500
Jean-Paul Calderone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 14:25:51 -0600, Terry Hancock
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I recently saw a claim that Mozilla XUL behaviors
(normally scripted in Javascript) can (or perhaps will)
be scriptable in Python
can use
script=application/x-python in order to do behavior
scripting in Python from within XUL running on top of
Mozilla.
I was also a little foggy about the relationship between
these components (which I hope I've just spelled out for the
record).
Thanks for the replies,
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the KDE/Gnome menus, that may be
interesting. I've seen a lot of conflicting and inconsistent
layouts, and I'm not sure how I would do it, given the
chance.
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-called software piracy
is that the recording and movie industry has been trying very hard
to conflate copyright violation with theft -- but the former is
only a civil offense, and the latter criminal. Big difference.
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precautions to
prevent major collisions, even if you expect it to be the plugin
author's responsibility to avoid them (e.g. establish interface
rules for plugins and a formal API for interacting with your
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Since Blender embeds its own Python interpreter, there is some question
as to what exactly it means by recognizing an installed Python. I'm
guessing it only uses the library.
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, though, what would you change about it? It's not flashy,
but works extremely well. You can say the same for Python itself
-- I think that may be its best quality. So how better to show that
than by having a site with the same character?
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it's dangerous to let extremists go unchallenged,
lest they be believed to lack opposition.
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that at the time it was the
only one that actually included code that did what the OP wanted.
I think Mr. Lundh's point was only that the output from glob.glob is already
guaranteed to be strings, so using either '%s'%f or str(f) is superfluous.
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different lists and topic-related sites. The two lists I happened
to check are years out of date (one was from 1994!) and do not even
list Microsoft.
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abdicating all
right to change them. People who believe this really need, therefore,
to shut up.
;-D
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(in keystrokes) as '%s'%f, making the just a matter of opinion.
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be a lot of help. I assume it goes
without saying that I'm looking at Python as an integration
language. In my ideal design, the M,V, and C components
are separate Python modules, so that the communications
are all at the Python level.
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need to write a Product, not work in the ZMI at all.
But you don't.
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for PyProtocols or Zope to follow up on that).
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in the Python version a feature
present in the standard Java library (scheduling a thread to run
at specified intervals and time out). Strip the Javadoc/docstrings
out and it's about at that 5:1 ratio.
This claim seems pretty dubious to me.
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lower).
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are: 1 cup of fat-free milk, free, and free pizza.
.replace('crowd', 'angry mob')
;-D
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of the problems I
described above.
OTOH, the Linux environment I describe is run-of-the-mill
Debian Sarge with KDE.
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).
Or, probably more useful to you, you could just provide games that people
can download. This is what actually happens with an applet, of course, so
there's no actual saving of bandwidth by running it on your server. What
is saved is the hassle of installing the software once it's downloaded.
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-getting step.
Well, this is already happening at the level of my mail client. I
gather you have something more centralized in mind?
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On Tuesday 11 October 2005 09:37 am, Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2005-10-10, Terry Hancock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Likewise, dude is often used when addressing a female but
almost never when speaking about one in the third person.
This I have never witnessed. That's bizarre.
At least
, however, 'a==b' must do an actual string comparison,
and is therefore somewhat slower.
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rgb_new # the new color you want to replace rgb_base with
rgb_new = hsv_to_rgb( (new_hue,) + rgb_to_hsv(rgb_base)[1:])
Cheers,
Terry
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, but the real story behind things like
that is kind of interesting, IMHO. ;-)
And I think the original joke is pretty dead by now. ;-)
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