ed. Some of it I can find some not.
So until I can get a new HD I need to keep weeding out the weeds!
TIA.
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Does anyone know how long it takes for time.clock() to roll over under
win32?
I'm aware that it uses QueryPerformanceCounter under win32... when I've
used this in the past (other languages) it is a great high-res 64-bit
performance counter that doesn't roll-over for many (many) years, but
I'm worr
Thanks! That gets me exactly what I wanted. I don't think I would
have been able to locate that code myself.
Based on this code and some quick math it confirms that not only will
the rollover be a looong way out, but that there will not be any loss
in precision until ~ 30 years down the road. C
Does anyone know the scope of the socket.setdefaulttimeout call? Is it
a cross-process/system setting or does it stay local in the application
in which it is called?
I've been testing this and it seems to stay in the application scope,
but the paranoid side of me thinks I may be missing something
It appears that the timeout setting is contained within a process
(thanks for the confirmation), but I've realized that the function
doesn't play friendly with threads. If I have multiple threads using
sockets and one (or more) is using timeouts, one thread affects the
other and you get unpredicta
Thanks for the detailed repsone... sorry for the lag in responding to
it.
After reading and further thought, the only reason I was using
setdefaulttimeout in the first place (rather then using a direct
settimeout on the socket) was because it seemed like the only way (and
easy) of getting access t
what I want after all?
Any thoughts would be much appreciated. I've got some ideas I want to test,
but if I can't find a simple implementation of curves, I'm going to get so
bogged down in trying to do that part, I'll never get to what I'm excited
about. :-P
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ut I'm new enough to this that I'd benefit greatly from an couple of
lines of example code, implementing your classes... how do I go from a set
of coordinates to a Natural Cubic Spline, using your python code?
Thanks for all the help, everybody!
Warren
"Tom Anderson" <[E
> If you go right to the foot of my code, you'll find a simple test routine,
> which shows you the skeleton of how to drive the code.
Oops... my request just got that much more pitiful. :-) Thanks for the
help.
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Anyone have any idea why this is failing with the following error
class _IndexFile:
"""An _IndexFile is an implementation class that presents a
Sequence and Dictionary interface to a sorted index file."""
def __init__(self, pos, filenameroot):
self.pos = pos
self.file = open(_indexFilePathname(fi
I am investigating converting a wiki site to plone. I am having
a lot of difficulty finding good documentation programmatically
accessing the ZODB API.
A lot of the user feedback is centered on how difficult it is to
get good documentation on developing using these technologies. My
question to com
The real problem is that the version of wiki we currently use
doesn't support any concept of workflow. That is fine for the
company now but as it matures in its processes, a more mature
solution will become more and more compelling.
Various solutions include...
1. The current wiki implementati
ambda. ... Wait, actually, I'm not out of that yet. :-)
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litches LEFT in Python? Now go look at
Perl and come back and say "Thank-deity-of-my-choice-I'm-using-Python".
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g a database of the file, keep the raw
text file for sure, but create a converted copy in bsddb or pytables format.
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1. Downloaded the windows binary for python 1.5.2 from python.org.
Pygame uses Python 1.5.2 still!? :-) Oi.
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Michael Hoffman wrote:
The fact that True and False are not constants?
Yowza.
a = True
b = False
False = a
True = b
if (1==2)==True:
print "Doom"
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Michael Hoffman wrote:
The fact that True and False are not constants?
Yowza.
a = True
b = False
False = a
True = b
if (1==2)==True:
print "Doom"
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Hi all!
I'm new to python and I seem to have a hit a of a brick wall. I hope
you guys can help.
I'm trying to rewrite some of my vbscripts in python. This particular
script connects to a mailbox in MS Exchange via ADO and calculates the
mailbox size. I seem to have run into a couple of issues get
, I am more able to pick it up and work with it than I
am with other less agile languages. I'm not merely talking about
pedantic details of literal code-readability, I'm talking about the
ability to intuit design from implementation, and the orthogonality of
the design of the system to
ngs could go wrong ("What happens if
the data isn't here or is invalid?"/"Where should I be catching
exceptions and how should I be handling them?")
Regards,
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cygwin batch
file that prints using ghostscript.
Regards,
Warren
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It seems that WinCvs needs a python??.dll runtime but that when I
install Python2.4 it doesn't include this dll.
Python 2.3 does.
What's the recommendation here?
Warren
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oogle Gropes user and would prefer not to see more
of this, try:
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the latter for its great filtering. I too have had
stability problems with Pan, but compiling from source fixed that for me.
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I just ran across a case which seems like an odd exception to either
what I understand as the "normal" variable lookup scheme in an
instance/object heirarchy, or to the rules regarding variable usage
before creation. Check this out:
>>> class foo(object):
... I = 1
... def __init__(self):
...
> I can see how this can be confusing, but I think the confusion here is
> yours, not Pythons ;)
This is very possible, but I don't think in the way you describe!
> self.I += 10 is an *assignment*. Like any assignment, it causes the
> attribute in question to be created
... no it isn't. The +=
D'oh... I just realized why this is happening. It is clear in the
longhand as you say, but I don't think in the way you descibed it (or
I'm so far gone right now I have lost it).
self.I += 1
is the same as
self.I = self.I + 1
and when python tries figures out what the 'self.I' is on the ri
Thanks for the additional examples, David (didn't see this before my
last post). All of it makes sense now, including those examples.
Russ
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I've got a case where I want to convert binary blocks of data (various
ctypes objects) to base64 strings.
The conversion calls in the base64 module expect strings as input, so
right now I'm converting the binary blocks to strings first, then
converting the resulting string to base64. This seems h
> Many functions that operate on strings also accept buffer objects as
> parameters,
> this seems also be the case for the base64.encodestring function. ctypes
> objects
> support the buffer interface.
>
> So, base64.b64encode(buffer(ctypes_instance)) should work efficiently.
Thanks! I have ne
After some digging around it appears there is not a tonne of
documentation on buffer objects, although they are clearly core and
ancient... been sifting through some hits circa 1999, long before my
python introduction.
What I can find says that buffer is deprecated (Python in a Nutshell),
or non-e
I've been having a hard time tracking down a very intermittent problem
where I get a "permission denied" error when trying to rename a file to
something that has just been deleted (on win32).
The code snippet that gets repeatedly called is here:
...
if os.path.exists(oldPath):
os.remove(o
> Another issue is the libraries you use. A lot of them aren't
> thread safe. So you need to watch out.
This is something I have a streak of paranoia about (after discovering
that the current xmlrpclib has some thread safety issues). Is there a
list maintained anywhere of the modules that are are
Oops - minor correction... xmlrpclib is fine (I think/hope). It is
SimpleXMLRPCServer that currently has issues. It uses
thread-unfriendly sys.exc_value and sys.exc_type... this is being
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> Are you running a background file accessing tool like Google Desktop
> Search or an anti-virus application? If so, try turning them off as a test.
I'm actually running both... but I would think that once os.remove
returns that the file is actually gone from the hdd. Why would either
applica
> Does it actually tell you the target is the problem? I see an
> "OSError: [Errno 17] File exists" for that case, not a permission error.
> A permission error could occur, for example, if GDS has the source open
> or locked when you call os.rename.
No it doesn't tell me the target is the issu
Ok, not really python focused, but it feels like the people here could
explain it for me :)
Now, I started programming when I was 8 with BBC Basic.
I never took any formal classes however, and I have never become an
expert programmer. I'm an average/hobbyist programmer with quite a few
languages
>
> | Now, I started programming when I was 8 with BBC Basic.
>
> Hey, likewise! (Except I was 12 when it came out!)
I think it came out before I was 8, and I started out with print and
input. Not sure if that's 'real' programming - I don't think I graduated
to ifs and thens and gotos and gosubs
> Also, having a variable of type str called 'number' seems
> perverse (and
> probably error prone), so I suspect I might need something like:
>
And not something I would normally do, but for hastily written contrived
examples I might :)
>print "There are "+str(number)+" ways to skin a "
> Duncan Booth wrote:
>
> > print "There are"+number+"ways to skin a"+furryanimal
> >
> > or at least something equivalent to it. If I try to make
> the same mistake
> > with a format string it jumps out to me as wrong:
> >
> > "There are%sways to skin a%s" % (number, furryanimal)
>
> Relate
> [Matthew Warren]
>
> | Blame outlook and AutoCaps. If number were a number I would write
> |
> | print "There are",number,"ways to skin a "+furryanimal
>
> You see now that strikes me as a bit mixed up. Why not simply use?
>
> print "a"
> -> > Python 2.5 introduced a dictionary type with automatic
> > creation of values,
> > ala Perl:
> >
> > ===
> > from collections import defaultdict
> >
> > d = defaultdict(list)
> > for line in fl:
> > k, v = line.strip().split()
> > d[k].append(v
> -Original Message-
> From:
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> rg] On Behalf Of Giovanni Bajo
> Sent: 04 October 2006 15:17
> To: python-list@python.org
> Subject: Re: dictionary of list from a file
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > while(){
> > @info=split
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> rg] On Behalf Of Gal Diskin
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> Subject: building strings from variables
>
> Following a discussion with an associate at work about various ways to
> b
> >The trouble is, I havent got a clue where to start and would
> appreciate
> >a couple of pointers to get me going...
> >
>
> I'd suggest taking a look at Twisted, which contains a more complete
> telnet implementation (not as important for being able to launch vi),
> an ssh implementation (
I've got a case where I'm seeing text files that are either all null
characters, or are trailed with nulls due to interrupted file access
resulting from an electrical power interruption on the WinXP pc.
In tracking it down, it seems that what is being interrupted is either
os.remove(), or os.renam
I have the following piece of code, taken from a bigger module, that
even as I was writing I _knew_ there were better ways of doing it, using
a parser or somesuch at least, but learning how wasn't as fun as coding
it... And yes alarm bells went off when I found myself typing eval(),
and I'm sure th
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> rg] On Behalf Of Giles Brown
> Sent: 11 October 2006 12:38
> To: python-list@python.org
> Subject: Re: Bad Code (that works) help me re-write!
>
> Matthew Warren wrote:
>
Thanks, guys... this has all been very useful information.
The machine this is happening on is already running NTFS.
The good news is that we just discovered/remembered that there is a
write-caching option (in device manager -> HDD -> properties ->
Policies tab) available in XP. The note right b
> On 17 Oct 2006 02:56:45 -0700, Lad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Dennis,
> > Thank you for your reply
> > You say:
> > >Pretend you are the computer/application/etc. How would YOU
> > > perform such a ranking?
> > That is what I do not know , how to perform such ranking.
> > Do you have any
Hallo people,
I have the following code that implements a simple recursive tree like
structure.
The trouble is with the GetTreeBranch function, the print statement
prints a valid value but the return immediatley afterward doesn't return
anything.
Can anyone help me with why?
Thanks,
Matt.
Co
> break
> else:
> _DoThingsToTree(path[1:],value,item[path[0]],delete)
>
The '_' in front of DoThingsToTree shouldn't be there. That's what I get
for trimming off the '_' elsewhere after I pasted the code in.
Matt.
This email is confidential and
>
> Hi I'm writing a python script that creates directories from user
> input.
> Sometimes the user inputs characters that aren't valid
> characters for a
> file or directory name.
> Here are the characters that I consider to be valid characters...
>
> valid =
> ':./,^0123456789abcdefghijklmno
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> rg] On Behalf Of Fredrik Lundh
> Sent: 20 October 2006 06:43
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> Subject: Re: Tkinter--does anyone use it for sophisticated
> GUI development?
>
> Kevin Walzer wrote:
>
> > Comi
Folks,
Sorry for asking you such a trivial question.!!! But i want to size up
all the buttons with the same size as the largest one in the interface.. And
thats why I am asking this question..
Regards,
Asrarahmed
Hi
Asrarahmed. I think, from yo
Hallo,
>>> import telnetlib
>>> l=telnetlib.Telnet('dbprod')
>>> l.interact()
telnet (dbprod)
Login:
Could anyone show how the above would be written using the twisted
framework? All I'm after is a more 'intelligent' interactive telnet
session (handles 'vi' etc..) rather than the full capabilit
; arg = prefix + "1234567890.1234"[k:]
> print "<%s> <%s>" % (arg, fmt_thousands(arg, ","))
> 8<---
Why not just port the Perl "commify" code? You're close to it, at least
for the regex:
# From perldoc per
iest way is to cvsup your ports tree and then
cd /usr/ports/lang/python
make
make install
make clean
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I've got a case where I need to tweak the implementation of a default
python library due to what I consider to be an issue in the library.
What is the best way to do this and make an attempt to remain
compatible with future releases?
My specific problem is with the clock used in the threading.Eve
I'm guessing no, since it skips down through any Lock semantics, but
I'm wondering what the best way to clear a Queue is then.
Esentially I want to do a "get all" and ignore what pops out, but I
don't want to loop through a .get until empty because that could
potentially end up racing another thre
Check out the Wing IDE - www.wingware.com .
As part of it's general greatness it has a "debug probe" which lets you
execute code snippets on active data in mid-debug execution.
It doesn't have precisely what you are after... you can't (yet)
highlight code segments and say "run this, please", but
Thanks guys. This has helped decipher a bit of the Queue mechanics for
me.
Regarding my initial clear method hopes... to be safe, I've
re-organized some things to make this a little easier for me. I will
still need to clear out junk from the Queue, but I've switched it so
that least I can stop t
..I'm just about to
start a project, I have a threaded python app currently around 3000 lines /
12-15 source files that is cli driven, and I am about to start using
boaConstructor to build a GUI around it.
Has anyone here any
advice on wether boaConstructor is actually a good tool for this
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John Machin wrote:
> paw wrote:
> > I have ran the MSI installer for Python 2.5 several times at
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I'm not sure if that is a very old way of doing it, which is why I wa
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Hi,
I would expect this to work,
rawstring=r'some things\new things\some other things\'
But it fails as the last backslash escapes the single quote.
..although writing this I think I have solved my own problem. Is \' the
only thing escaped in a raw string so you can place ' in a raw string?
Alt
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> rg] On Behalf Of Kay Schluehr
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> Subject: Re: Escapeism
>
> Sybren Stuvel wrote:
> > Kay Schluehr enlightened us with:
> > > Usually I struggle a
> -Original Message-
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>
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> > -Original Message-
> &
Hi,
I use telnetlib in an app I am writing, and would like to add
functionality to it to support interactive terminal sessions , IE: be
able to 'vi' a file.
Currently it seems telnetlib isnt quite sophisticated enoguh to support
such a thing.
The trouble is, I havent got a clue where to start
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> Subject: Re: Raw strings and escaping
>
> Matthew Warren wrote:
> >
Is there any better way to get a list of the public callables of self
other than this?
myCallables = []
classDir = dir(self)
for s in classDir:
attr = self.__getattribute__(s)
if callable(attr) and (not s.startswith("_")):
myCallables.append(s) #collect the names (n
> import inspect
> myCallables = [name for name, value in inspect.getmembers(self) if not
> name.startswith('_') and callable(value)]
Thanks. I forgot about the inspect module. Interestingly, you've also
answered my question more than I suspect you know! Check out the code
for inspect.getmember
The application we're working on at my company currently has about
eleventy billion independent python applications/process running and
talking to each other on a win32 platform. When problems crop up and
we have to drill down to figure out who is to blame and how, we
currently are using the (surp
;
>> For i = 1 to CountFields(s," ")
>> a.append NthField(s," ",i)
>> next
>>
>> That's it an array a() containing the words of the sentence.
[snip]
> Now a "slim" version:
>
> s = "This is a sentence of words"
>
> >> c[:] holds many behaviors that change dynamically.
> >
> > I've absolutely no clue what that sentence means. If c[:] does
> > behave differently than c, then somebody's done something
> > seriously weird and probably needs to be slapped around for
> > felonious overriding.
I'm still a bit ne
Wildemar Wildenburger wrote:
> This may be a nice
> idea for the Next Overwhelming Programming Escapade (Codename: NOPE)
> ...
> You may want to elaborate on the "new way to think about names". Maybe
> you have a point which I just don't see.
Is it considered pythonic to LOL?
Nietzsche would lov
Quotes out of context with mistaken assumptions, now follow:
> So c[:]() -- or the more recent go(c)() -- executes all those
> behaviors.
>
> No it doesn't. See below.
> >
> > If c[:]() works, the so does this, using real world names
> >
> > orchestra[:].pickle()
> > orchestra[c
> > What?!? I started this thread.
> >
> No you didn't. Your original post was a reply to a message whose subject
> line was 'Re: "is" and ==', and included the header
>
> In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
You're right, thanks.
> >> I think the fundamental mistake you have made is to convince you
> > I did not hijack another thread
>
> You really did. In the first message you sent, we see the following
> header:
>
> > In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
...
Damn! I suck. Outlook as a newsreader sucks. I need to use something else.
> I retyped the code you posted in the first pos
_call__ create any extra indirection? If yes,
then I presume that `do(c)()` would be slower the `c[:]()`. I am writing
rather amorphous code. This may speed it up.
4) I posit yes. Am I missing something? What idiom does would c[:]() break?
This correlates with whether `c[:]()` breaks the language d
issues, though you
> will of course get all sorts of opinions on c.l.py.
Oh well. Perhaps I can relax and actually write functioning code ;-)
What do you mean by 'c.l.py' ? The first thing that comes to mind is
'clippy' that helpful little agent in Word that helped pay for Simonyi's
trip into space.
Ching ching,
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> Warren Stringer wrote:
>
> > `c[:]()` is unambiguous because:
> >
> > def c(): print 'yo'
> >
> > c() # works, but
> > c[:]() # causes:
> >
> > Traceback (most recent call last)...
> > c[:]()
> Warren Stringer wrote:
>
> > As mentioned a while back, I'm now predisposed towards using `do(c)()`
> > because square brackets are hard with cell phones. The one mitigating
> factor
> > for more general use, outside of cell phones, is speed.
>
> The spee
> And that your
> insisting on ``c[:]()`` instead of just ``c()`` seems to indicate you want
> a change that is quite surprising. It would mean that a slice of a list
> returns an other type with the __call__ method implemented.
I am not insisting on anything. I use ``c[:]()`` as shorthand way of
> > [Please quit saying "a container" if you mean lists and tuples.
> > "A container" is way too general. There most probably _are_
> > containers for which c() does not fail.]
>
> One example of such a container is any folderish content in Zope:
> subscripting gets you the contained pages, calli
Thanks, Dakz for taking the time to reply:
> This discussion has gone in more circles than Earth has gone 'round
> the Sun, but it seems you should consider the following:
Yes, I've been feeling a bit dizzy
> 1) Sequences and functions serve fundamentally different purposes in
> Python. One is f
Gabriel wrote:
> I begin to think you are some kind of Eliza experiment with Python
> pseudo-knowledge injected.
Tell me more about your feelings that I am an Eliza experiment with Python
with pseudo knowledge injected.
Thanks for the code example.
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Andre Engels wrote:
> > I am not insisting on anything. I use ``c[:]()`` as shorthand way of
> saying
> > "c() for c in d where d is a container"
> >
> > Having c() support containers seems obvious to me. It jibes with duck
> > typing. Perhaps the title of this thread should have been: "Why don't
>
Oops, forgot to cut and paste the point, to this:
> > - there is no Python error for "you
> > cannot do this with this object, but you can do it with other objects
> > of the same type".
>
> Yes there is:
>
> #
> def yo(): print "yo"
> def no(): print blah
> yo()
> no()
> Anyway, the code below defines a simple "callable" list; it just calls
> each contained item in turn. Don't bother to use [:], it won't work.
>
> py> class CallableList(list):
> ... def __call__(self):
> ... for item in self:
> ... item()
> ...
> py> def a(): print "a"
> ...
> py> d
> "Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> || Warren Stringer wanted to call the functions just for the side effects
> | without interest in the return values. So building a list of return
> | values which
Roland Puntaier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Warren, can you please restate your point.
Hey Roland, where were you a few days ago ;-) I think most suggestions were
valid, in their own context. Only yesterday, was I finally able to get it in
perspective, so here goes:
There are two idioms
': .' means ': ...' (its an outlook thing)
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ack unhandled
NameError exceptions, so that they unwind the stack normally?
This is intended for production code.
Many thanks!
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Am still trying to hook a NameError exception and continue to run. After a
few more hours of searching the web and pouring over Martelli's book, the
closest I've come is:
>>> import sys
>>> def new_exit(arg=0):
... print 'new_exit called'
... #old_exit(arg)
...
>>> def hook(type, value, tb
> Yes. Python doesn't have restartable exceptions. Perhaps you would like
> to take a look at CL or Smalltalk?
>
> Jean-Paul
Hmmm, I wonder if anyone suggest to Philippe Petit, as stepped out 110
stories off the ground, that perhaps he would like to take a look at a
different tightrope?
Oddly
Alia Khouri Write
> I have been waiting for this ages and it's finally happened! Python
> meet Live, Live meet Python!
Wow. This is very cool; thanks for the announcement!
> I rushed to update http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonInMusic but lo
Thanks for this link, as well. Very useful.
--
Josiah Carlson wrote:
> >>> foo = type(foo)(foo.func_code, d, foo.func_name, foo.func_defaults,
> foo.func_closure)
Wow! I've never seen that, before. Is there documentation for `type(n)(...)`
somewhere? I did find a very useful "Decorator for Binding Constants, by
Raymond Hettinger", that uses t
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