Which compiler will Python 2.5 / Windows (Intel) be built with?

comments! Markus Meyer [1] Google Groups: Python 2.5 Schedule (18 messages) http://groups.google.ca/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/thread/2f8be89236999a37/f6f95174484c24cc?hl=en [2] Microsoft Visual C++ Toolkit 2003 http://msdn.microsoft.com/visualc/vctoolkit2003/ -- http://mail.python.org

Re: Which compiler will Python 2.5 / Windows (Intel) be built with?

Scott, Scott David Daniels wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > > which compiler will Python 2.5 on Windows (Intel) be built with? > > Same as for Python 2.4 (the decision was taken a while ago). > Intel sells a compatible compiler, I believe. the problem is not the ABI, but t

Re: Which compiler will Python 2.5 / Windows (Intel) be built with?

Mr Roboto wrote: > I haven't personally tried a Python compile w/ this, but I'll > share it in hopes that it'll help: one can download a free copy > of Visual C++ 2K5 *Express* from microsoft itself. If you're > interested, try: The problem is, when you compile an extension module with VS (Expre

Re: Which compiler will Python 2.5 / Windows (Intel) be built with?

Hi Scott, thanks for keeping up the friendly discussion. Comments below. Scott David Daniels wrote: > The disruption in Python 2.4 in switching from one compiler (VC6) to > another VS2003 was not insubstantial. By sticking with VS2003, sometime > users can at least use the same tool for Python 2

Re: Which compiler will Python 2.5 / Windows (Intel) be built with?

Hi Fredrik, first, thanks for PIL, I use it extensively in my daily work ;) Fredrik Lundh wrote: > huh? 2.5 isn't released yet. if you *have* a Python app, you can > continue to use the same compiler when you upgrade from 2.4 and 2.5. > it's not like anyone is forcing you to uninstall the compi

Re: Which compiler will Python 2.5 / Windows (Intel) be built with?

Fredrik, Fredrik Lundh wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I'm not sure how that backs the point you made. Infact, you're saying > > that people accepted that Python 2.4 was compiled with VS2003 because > > VC6 could not longer be bought. How is that different from the current > > situation wh

Re: Which compiler will Python 2.5 / Windows (Intel) be built with?

Scott, thanks for your clear words. Scott David Daniels wrote: > Nor was it clear to the PyDev community. Microsoft offered free > development systems to those among the PyDev group who were core > developers, and we took that offer. At the time we had no idea > it was on such a short-windowed

Re: Which compiler will Python 2.5 / Windows (Intel) be built with?

> This is the .NET 11 SDK, I belive it includes the 2003 compiler (*): Last time I checked the .NET SDK they had the C# compiler in there, but not the C++ optimizing 2003 compiler. Might be wrong though -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Which compiler will Python 2.5 / Windows (Intel) be built with?

Martin, thanks for the tip, I wasn't fully aware of that. OTOH, though GCC might be a theoretical alternative, it isn't a practical one for many situations: * In a professional environment, it opens up another can of potential problems, where one would rather like to stay with one single compiler

Re: Which compiler will Python 2.5 / Windows (Intel) be built with?

Martin, Martin v. Löwis wrote: > > * In a professional environment, it opens up another can of potential > > problems, where one would rather like to stay with one single > > compiler/build system. > That's a theoretic argument to me: Can you name four or five problems > out of that can? In bigge

Re: Which compiler will Python 2.5 / Windows (Intel) be built with?

Roel Schroeven wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] schreef: > > * The code created by the Windows GCC is not as good as the one created > > by the Microsoft compiler > > Isn't Python for other platforms built with GCC? Seems to me that if it > GCC is good enough for other platforms, it's good enough for Win

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Re: list comprehension to do os.path.split_all ?

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Re: Instant File I/O

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Directly Executable Files in Python

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Re: Composition instead of inheritance

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Re: recursive methods require implementing a stack?

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Re: pytz and Python timezones

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Re: How well do you know Python?

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Re: Sniffing Text Files

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Re: C#3.0 and lambdas

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Re: Sniffing Text Files

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Re: Parsing an HTML a tag

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Re: ncurses programming

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Re: attribute error

"M.N.A.Smadi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > HI; > > I am having the following error. I am using someone else's code and > all they are doing is pass an argv to a function then > > def execute_action(manager, argv): > method_name = argv.pop(0).lower() > > > and am getting this strange error.

Re: PEP 350: Codetags

On 27/09/2005, at 12:21 PM, Paul Rubin wrote: > Neil Hodgson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> The PEP system allows for the documentation of a convention as an >> "Informational PEP". Documenting conventions is useful. > > If the preferred method of doing something is > consistent enough that

Re: Overhead of individual python apps

"Qopit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > When running in Windows, launching each application generates a > process, and each of those processes ends up taking up > 4MB of system > memory. This memory usage is as reported by the Windows Task manager > for the python.exe image name. The first step is

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Re: Will python never intend to support private, protected and public?

On 28/09/2005, at 11:05 PM, Simon Brunning wrote: > On 9/28/05, could ildg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Python is wonderful except that it has no real private and protected >> properties and methods. >> Every py object has dict so that you can easily find what fields >> and methods >> an obj

Re: Will python never intend to support private, protected and public?

On 28/09/2005, at 11:54 PM, Paul Rubin wrote: > Tony Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> I'm not sure why I haven't seen this mentioned yet, but a leading >> double-underscore does really make a member private:... >> As you see, it's there in the

Re: Will python never intend to support private, protected and public?

On 28/09/2005, at 11:55 PM, Simon Brunning wrote: > On 9/28/05, Tony Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I'm not sure why I haven't seen this mentioned yet, but a leading >> double-underscore does really make a member private: >> > > I though

Re: Will python never intend to support private, protected and public?

Paul Rubin writes: > Chris Gonnerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> -- Make it easy to do right. >> >> What you are promoting is the first philosophy: Tie the programmer's >> hands so he can't do wrong. Python for the most part follows the >> second philosophy, making

Re: Will python never intend to support private, protected and public?

Paul Rubin writes: > Gregor Horvath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > to be able to share private variables with other classes under certain >> > circumstances, it's better to use something like C++'s "friend" >> > declaration, where you can export the variables to a spec

Re: Will python never intend to support private, protected and public?

Paul Rubin <http://[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Note that the quoted article only applies to *writing* attributes. It >> doesn't say anything about needing accessors to *read* a >> variable. This encourages me th

Re: Will python never intend to support private, protected and public?

On 29/09/2005, at 3:45 AM, Fredrik Lundh wrote: > Tony Meyer wrote: > >>> I thought about it, but I didn't mention it in the end because this >>> feature ("name mangling") isn't intended as a mechanism for making >>> things private - it

Re: Will python never intend to support private, protected and public?

Paul Rubin <http://[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > Generally that sounds reasonable. Obviously there are other examples >> > when (e.g. for security) you have to make sure that variables can't be >> > re

Re: A quick c.l.p netiquette question

Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> I think you missed the other Peter's second post, where he points to >> his >> program: http://www.pick.ucam.org/~ptc24/yvfc.html >> I didn't read every one of his 158 lines, but his code is pure >> poetry, or >> possibly triple-distilled evil, depending

Re: attribute error

and', argv[2]) This should be execute_action('command', argv[2:]), with the ':' added. def execute_action(manager, argv): > method_name = argv.pop(0).lower() > > > > but i always thought that something like this will be standard stuff. >

Re: attribute error

telling you that string doesn't *have* a pop method. The interpreter is right. Strings are immutable, so "pop" doesn't make any sense for them. > Mike Meyer wrote: > > >In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, M.N.A.Smadi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> typed: > >

Re: Will python never intend to support private, protected and public?

Paul Rubin writes: > Bill Mill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Python is for consenting adults. > > Python might be for consenting adults, but multi-person software > projects are supposed to be done in the workplace, not the bedroom. > So there are still some software con

Re: A Moronicity of Guido van Rossum

On 30/09/2005, at 9:50 AM, Delaney, Timothy (Tim) wrote: > You have to admit though, he's remarkably good at getting past > Spambayes. Despite classifying *every* Xah Lee post as spam, he still > manages to get most of his posts classified as 0% or 1% spam. I can't believe that people are using c

Re: A Moronicity of Guido van Rossum

> I know nobody wants to do add "white/black-listing", so we can do it > probabilistically. In case it is not obvious, mailings with the words > "jargon" or "moron" and their derrivatives should be flagged as 99.9% > probability for Moronicity Xha Lee, Jargonizer, spam. If spam bayes > can't > fi

Re: Will python never intend to support private, protected and public?

Paul Rubin writes: > OTOH, "private" lets you say 100% for certain that another class > didn't clobber __xyz, and that any bug that clobbered it MUST reside > in the class that declared it. That makes auditing for __xyz-related > errors a lot simpler since you only have

Re: Hello gnome-terminal

egbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > When I start the following script in a gnome-terminal: > > #!/usr/bin/env python > import os > print "hello gnome-terminal" > print os.environ["PYTHONPATH"] > > I see the expected results in the same gnome-terminal window. > > However start

Re: Google Not Universal Panacea

Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > However, > > >> Are people really too lazy to do elementary research on Google? > > goes a bit too far in imputing motives to the enquirer and overlooking > the fact that there are some very good reasons for *not* using Google. Ok, *what* are the reasons

Re: where to post python code?

Alessandro Bottoni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> the question it - where should i post the code to? >> It's not big enough to justify a source forge project, nor is it small >> enough to be considered a receipt fit for ASPN's Python Cookbook. > > Maybe "The Vaults of

Re: A Moronicity of Guido van Rossum

Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [off-list] > > Peter Hansen wrote: >> Gerrit Holl wrote: >> >>>True. However, most mail to this mailinglist has less than 0.001 spam >>>probability. As you can see, this one had 0.048 - a vast score, almost >>>enough to put it in my unsure box. It seems t

Re: Will python never intend to support private, protected and public?

Paul Rubin <http://[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> So, fool._bar is now clobbered. Nuts, the _bar attribute is broken for >> *every* instance of Fools. According to you, the error must be in >> Fools. Care to point it

Re: A Moronicity of Guido van Rossum

On 30/09/2005, at 10:56 PM, Gerrit Holl wrote: > Tony Meyer wrote: > >> X-Spambayes-Classification: ham; 0.048 >> X-Spambayes-Evidence: '*H*': 0.90; '*S*': 0.00; 'bug.': 0.07; >> 'flagged': 0.07; >> "i'd&quo

Re: Will python never intend to support private, protected and public?

Paul Rubin <http://[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Unless your compiler detects and flags passing private variables to >> external functions all you've got is a convention that you don't pass >> private variables

Re: OT: Phases of the moon

Bart Lateur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Steven D'Aprano wrote: > >>A skeptical policeman who says he doesn't actually believe the moon >>affects behaviour nevertheless reports that "last weekend" things were >>really crazy, and it was a full moon. Somebody writes in to correct him: >>no, the ful

Re: Will python never intend to support private, protected and public?

Paul Rubin <http://[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > Yes, the point is that it's something that you can check for by >> > examining the class in question without having to examine any other >> > classes. >>

Re: Will python never intend to support private, protected and public?

Paul Rubin <http://[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Well, it's a discussion of why a certain feature might be useful, not > that it's required. Mike Meyer points out some reasons it might be > hard to do smoothly without changing Python semantics in a deep way &g

Re: Program help

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Re: Python for search engine development

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Re: Automating, Building, Testing and Deploying to Production Server

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Re: Will python never intend to support private, protected and public?

Paul Rubin <http://[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > What convention? It just makes it possible to write code with some >> > specific invariants if there's a need to do so. >> That you don't pass private va

Re: Will python never intend to support private, protected and public?

Paul Rubin <http://[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> Compile-time restrictions don't matter for squat - you need >> >> serious restrictions on what the program can do at runtime. >> > You need both. &g

Re: Will python never intend to support private, protected and public?

Paul Rubin <http://[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Which brings me to my point. Rather than trying to bandage Python to >> do what you want - and what, based on this thread, a lot of other >> people *don't* want - yo

Re: Will python never intend to support private, protected and public?

Paul Rubin <http://[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> I'd say CPython was missing the features that you need to guarantee >> that. Missing quite a *lot* of features, in fact. But Python has never >> been about keeping peo

Re: Will python never intend to support private, protected and public?

Paul Rubin <http://[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > Privilege separation is considered a good coding practice. How does >> > Python help it? >> With conventions and name mangling. Which are only slightly less >>

Re: Will python never intend to support private, protected and public?

Paul Rubin writes: >> > That's not what privilege separation means. It means that the >> > privileged objects stay secure even when the unprivileged part of the >> > program is completely controlled by an attacker. >> In which case, what's "private" got to do with this?

Re: "no variable or argument declarations are necessary."

Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, 03 Oct 2005 06:59:04 +, Antoon Pardon wrote: > Declared variables have considerable labour costs, and only marginal > gains. Since the steps you take to protect against other errors will also > protect against mistyping variables, declaratio

Re: Reply-To header

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Re: Reply-To header

Roel Schroeven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Peter Decker wrote: >> Setting the default Reply-To: to the list means that 'Reply' sends >> just to the list (the desired behavior most of the time), and 'Reply >> to all' sends 2 copies. > The thing is: Reply-to has legitimate uses. I don't really unde

Re: Reply-To header

Roel Schroeven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Is that really the desired behaviour? IMO the least you can do if you're > searching for help is subscribing to the mailing list on which you're > looking for help. Me and many others don't like to receive replies > directly instead of via the mailing li

Re: Will python never intend to support private, protected and public?

Paul Rubin writes: >> A couple of other things to think about: >> Are you sure you want to use the C++ model for privilege separation? > I'm not sure what you mean by the C++ model. If you mean the Java > model, as I keep saying, applet sandbox security relies on it, so

Re: packaging a python project and associated graphics files

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Re: Controlling who can run an executable

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Re: "no variable or argument declarations are necessary."

Antoon Pardon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Op 2005-10-03, Steven D'Aprano schreef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> On Mon, 03 Oct 2005 13:58:33 +, Antoon Pardon wrote: > Declarations also allow easier writable closures. Since the declaration > happens at a certain scope, the run time can easily find th

Re: "no variable or argument declarations are necessary."

Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> My gut reaction is that it's a wash. The time taken to declare >> variables in well-written code in a well-designed language - meaning >> the declarations and use will be close together - isn't all that >> great, but neither are the savings. > You've g

Re: Reply-To header

Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Mike Meyer wrote: >> When I notice that a list is broken (RFC 2822 says that >> reply-to is for the *author* of the message; anyone else setting it is >> doing so in violation of the RFC, and hence broken, no matter h

Re: ssh or other python editor

"Fredrik Lundh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>- I'm a newbie at freeBSD so I think there is , but I don't know where. > Putty isn't doing any syntax coloring; it just draws things in the color > specified > by your editor. If you don't get any colors, it's probably beca

Re: Newbie Text Processing Question

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I'm a total newbie to Python so any and all advice is greatly > appreciated. Well, I've got some for you. > I'm trying to use regular expressions to process text in an SGML file > but only in one section. This is generally a bad idea. SGML family languages aren't easy

Re: "no variable or argument declarations are necessary."

Antoon Pardon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> They also relieve a burden from the run-time, since all variables >>> are declared, the runtime doesn't has to check whether or not >>> a variable is accesible, it knows it is. >> Not in a dynamic language. Python lets you delete variables at run >> tim

Re: "no variable or argument declarations are necessary."

Pierre Barbier de Reuille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Mike Meyer a écrit : >> Antoon Pardon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >>>Op 2005-10-03, Steven D'Aprano schreef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>> >>>>On Mon, 03 Oct 2005 13:58:

Re: "no variable or argument declarations are necessary."

Paul Rubin <http://[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> I think we're using different definitions of statically typed >> here. A language that is statically typed doesn't *need* type >> inferencing - the types are all

Re: "no variable or argument declarations are necessary."

Barbier de Reuille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Dans l'article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mike Meyer a écrit : >> Pierre Barbier de Reuille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> Mike Meyer a écrit : >>>> Antoon Pardon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes

Re: When someone from Britain speaks, Americans hear a "British accent"...

Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 2005-10-06, DaveM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>Frankly, I can't watch Shakespeare or movies like "the full >>>monty" or "trainspotting" because I can't understand a damn >>>word they say. British talk sounds like gibberish to me for the >>>most part.

Re: Python recipes: list mixin, improved timeit, etc

Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, 06 Oct 2005 21:03:33 -0700, barnesc wrote: >> I added some recipes to the Python Cookbook: >> >> - listmixin >> >>Use ListMixin to create custom list classes from a small subset of >>list methods: >> >>http://aspn.activestate.com

Re: os.access with wildcards

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Re: Matching zero only once using RE

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Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry

Roedy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 09:38:49 +1000, Steven D'Aprano > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote or quoted : > >>Yes it is. HTML means that after I've specified my email client use my >>favourite font, in the size I like, people send me emails that over-ride >>my choice. I

Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry

Roedy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, 04 Oct 2005 17:57:13 -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gordon > Burditt) wrote or quoted : > >>HTML enables a heck of a lot of problems: "web bugs" in email, >>links to fake sites that appear as real ones in what shows up >>on the screen, Javascript virus

Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry

Roedy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sat, 08 Oct 2005 17:41:38 -0400, Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > or quoted : >>If you've got a browser with a better solution, what's the browser, >>and what's the solution? > Try Opera. You ca

Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry

Roedy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > This is one of the marvels of CSS once you get the hang of it. If you > don't like bright red letters on green backgrounds, you can CHANGE > that. You can change the fonts, sizes etc etc. You can if you want get > something very like plain ASCII text. Sho

Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry

Paul Rubin writes: > I read mail over an ssh connection to a Unix shell. I have no easy > way to read html email with a graphics browser. You don't need a grahics browser - you just need a browser. I read mail in emacs, and use emacs-w3m to view html in the mailer. Work

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Roedy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, 09 Oct 2005 04:44:25 -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gordon > Burditt) wrote or quoted : > >>And how do you fix the problem of unsolicited USENET articles? >>(*ALL* of them are unsolicited to someone). Or unsolicited >>email? > > Read my essay. > http

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Roedy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sat, 08 Oct 2005 19:56:50 -0400, Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > or quoted : > >>Show us *examples*! Do you create a style sheet for every site you >>visit that overrides there classes? What? > > Why

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Roedy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > There is no fundamental reason that formatted spam should have an > easier time penetrating your defenses than plain text spam. Formatted spam can include pictures of words. That's a common spam tactic - send a multipart/alternative with a text part that l

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"Dr.Ruud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Let procmail make all those decisions and transformations for you. I prefer qmail dot-commands. It provides an architecture for controlling the delivery of email, and lets you write the smarts of the mail processing in whatever language you want. > I have a

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Lasse Vågsæther Karlsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Fredrik Lundh wrote: > >> "Unlike mainstream component programming, scripts usually >> do not introduce new components but simply "wire" existing >> ones. Scripts can be seen as introducing behavior but no >> new state. /.../ O

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Tim Tyler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > In comp.lang.java.programmer Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote or quoted: >> The technial problems have been solved for over a decade. NeXT shipped >> systems that used text/richtext, which has none of the problems that >

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Tim Tyler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > In comp.lang.java.programmer Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote or quoted: >> Roedy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > Read my essay. >> > http://mindprod.com/projects.html/mailreadernewsreade

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Roedy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Perhaps you could slow them down with some randomly chosen questions > to prove they know something about you. Companies could do the same > thing. Challenge-response system are old hat. I use one, and it reduces my spam by three orders of magnitude. Most

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Roedy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, 09 Oct 2005 05:55:01 -0400, Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > or quoted : >>Virus writers will love the ability to >>change peoples address books remotely. > Since this is just a broad brush view, I find it odd

Re: searching a project to contribute to

"Clint Norton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi all, > I'm a student currently in the beginning of my master's degree and > I'm searching for an interesting open source project written in Python > to contribute to. > I have worked as a programmer for the past few years (mostly in > academia

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