On 2025-04-16, Mats Wichmann via Python-list wrote:
> On 4/15/25 16:07, Grant Edwards via Python-list wrote:
>> On 2025-04-15, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote:
>>
>>> On Linux, at least, it's standard for pip to install into the user's
>>> site
On 4/15/25 16:07, Grant Edwards via Python-list wrote:
On 2025-04-15, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote:
On Linux, at least, it's standard for pip to install into the user's
site-packages location if it's not invoked with admin privileges - even
without --user. Pip will
On 2025-04-15, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote:
> On Linux, at least, it's standard for pip to install into the user's
> site-packages location if it's not invoked with admin privileges - even
> without --user. Pip will emit a message saying so. Well, that used to
sing *--user.
This may depend on the OS. On Ubuntu 24.10 with python 3.12.7 I get
$ pip install black
error: externally-managed-environment
× This environment is externally managed
╰─> To install Python packages system-wide, try apt install
python3-xyz, where xyz is the package yo
On 4/15/2025 3:41 PM, dn via Python-list wrote:
Various responses have been provided but the OP has not yet replied on-
list (as verified by Archive). Is this an error with the list-processor
or have some posts been sent to one person only (using Reply instead of
ReplyList)?
There are always
On 4/15/2025 12:43 PM, Friedrich Romstedt via Python-list wrote:
Am Mo., 14. Apr. 2025 um 01:14 Uhr schrieb Jonathan Gossage via Python-list
:
I am using *Python 3.13* in a virtual environment under *Ubuntu Linux
24.04*
.
[...]
Instead, it was
installed into the site-packages directory in
-discussions -
but will hearing only half of some of the conversation help them?
On 14/04/25 11:33, dn via Python-list wrote:
On 14/04/25 11:10, Jonathan Gossage via Python-list wrote:
I am using *Python 3.13* in a virtual environment under *Ubuntu Linux
24.04*
.
The version of Python was compiled
On 4/15/25 10:43, Friedrich Romstedt via Python-list wrote:
Many people put emphasis on that you need to *activate* a virtualenv before
using it, but no-one so far stressed the fact that you got Sphinx installed
to ~/jonathan/.local/lib/python3.13/site-packages *without using *--user.
To be
Am Mo., 14. Apr. 2025 um 01:14 Uhr schrieb Jonathan Gossage via Python-list
:
> I am using *Python 3.13* in a virtual environment under *Ubuntu Linux
> 24.04*
> .
> [...]
> Instead, it was
> installed into the site-packages directory in
> */home/jonathan/.locals/lib/pyt
te.ps1 is in the
Scripts subdirectory and you do run it directly. On Linux the python in
bin is usually a symlink, although you can specify it to be copied with a
parameter to venv. Symlinks on Windows are problematic but the process is
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. So where is the venv that you
>> set up? I usually put them into ~/venv. For example, a venv named "gf4"
>> is at ~/venv/gf4.
>
> Are you sure about that?
Sure about what?
> activate has
>
>
> VIRTUAL_ENV="/home/rbowman/wor
On 4/14/2025 6:20 PM, Keith Thompson via Python-list wrote:
Thomas Passin writes:
[...]
To activate a venv, you have to source its activate script, which is
in the venv. First you have to mark it as executable. Then you source
it -
source ~/venv/gf4/bin/activate
[...]
No, you don't ha
On 4/14/2025 6:20 PM, Keith Thompson via Python-list wrote:
Thomas Passin writes:
[...]
To activate a venv, you have to source its activate script, which is
in the venv. First you have to mark it as executable. Then you source
it -
source ~/venv/gf4/bin/activate
[...]
No, you don't ha
> set up? I usually put them into ~/venv. For example, a venv named "gf4"
> is at ~/venv/gf4.
Are you sure about that? activate has
VIRTUAL_ENV="/home/rbowman/work/python/weather"
export VIRTUAL_ENV
_OLD_VIRTUAL_PATH="$PATH"
PATH="$VIRTUAL_ENV/bin:$PATH&q
id */
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;
is at ~/venv/gf4.
To activate a venv, you have to source its activate script, which is in
the venv. First you have to mark it as executable. Then you source it -
source ~/venv/gf4/bin/activate
Now when you run python (or more likely, python3), it will find the
venv's directories be
On Sun, 13 Apr 2025 19:10:47 -0400, Jonathan Gossage wrote:
> The version of Python was compiled from source code and installed with
> make altinstall. I attempted to use *pip* to install the *Sphinx*
> package into the virtual environment using the command *pip install
> sphinx* in
On 14/04/25 11:10, Jonathan Gossage via Python-list wrote:
I am using *Python 3.13* in a virtual environment under *Ubuntu Linux 24.04*
.
The version of Python was compiled from source code and installed with make
altinstall. I attempted to use *pip* to install the *Sphinx* package into
the
I am using *Python 3.13* in a virtual environment under *Ubuntu Linux 24.04*
.
The version of Python was compiled from source code and installed with make
altinstall. I attempted to use *pip* to install the *Sphinx* package into
the virtual environment using the command *pip install sphinx* in the
-only phase.
Python 3.14.0a7
Here comes the final alpha! This means we have just four weeks until the
first beta to get those last features into 3.14 before the feature freeze
on 2025-05-06!
https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-3140a7/
This is an early developer preview of Python 3.14
ons that Slixmpp provides.
https://bpa.st/PDNA.
Please advise.
Regards,
Schimon
On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 08:24:29 +0200
Schimon Jehudah via Python-list wrote:
> Good day!
>
> My name is Schimon, and I create software in a form of XMPP contacts
> (i.e. bots) with chat and visual interfa
creating XMPP bots, based on the
module Slixmpp, and perhaps also for IRC and MQTT.
I do not know how to design a framework yet.
I would appreciate guidance.
Kind regards,
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Here comes the penultimate alpha.
https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-3140a6/
This is an early developer preview of Python 3.14
Major new features of the 3.14 series, compared to 3.13:
Python 3.14 is still in development. This release, 3.14.0a6, is the sixth
of seven planned alpha
On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 8:33 PM meejah via Python-list <
python-list@python.org> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am happy to announce that magic-wormhole 0.18.0 has been released.
> A visible change is the default display of QR Codes, following the
> specification for file-transfer
ce diagram
* Support Read the Docs pull-request builds
* Drop support for Python 3.8 (#556)
* Add broken-link checker (#588, https://github.com/Cycloctane)
* Preemptively fix Click 8.2 (#584, @cjwatson)
* Basic support for PEP518 (#579, @SnoopJ)
* Add WORMHOLE_ACCEPT_FILE (#570, @haatveit)
thanks to
Yes,
I have 24.3.1 version of pip in my win 11 device, there is a new version of
pip available, 25.0.1
Shall I upgrade that?
Kind regards,
Praveen
On Mon, 10 Mar 2025, 03:04 Thomas Passin via Python-list, <
python-list@python.org> wrote:
> On 3/9/2025 3:16 PM, Gilmeh Serda via Py
Is that an approved location for executables?
May I know? What do you mean by approved location?
Kind regards,
Praveen
On Mon, 10 Mar 2025, 01:25 Gilmeh Serda via Python-list, <
python-list@python.org> wrote:
> On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 15:59:51 +0530, Praveen Kumar wrote:
>
> >
Hi Matt,
I pointed out onething that related to the errors, what I pointed out is I
just gone through the system 32 path in c drive and I found the python
executive and other python files indicating 0 kb, and I deleted these exe,
since these are seem to be corrupted to me, then after I tried
On 3/10/25 10:08, Praveen Kumar via Python-list wrote:
Hi Matt,
I pointed out onething that related to the errors, what I pointed out is I
just gone through the system 32 path in c drive and I found the python
executive and other python files indicating 0 kb, and I deleted these exe,
since
On 3/9/2025 3:16 PM, Gilmeh Serda via Python-list wrote:
On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 15:59:51 +0530, Praveen Kumar wrote:
"C:\Users\Bharath\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python313\python.exe"
Is that an approved location for executables?
Yes, that's where a python.org install normal
If the path had been set for a local user but not for the system, you
would see that behavior.
The install from python.org should have installed the "py" launcher.
Does that run? IOW, does typing "py" launch Python?
Yes it does for both admin and non-admin cmd shells. But p
d been set for a local user but not for the system, you
would see that behavior.
The install from python.org should have installed the "py" launcher.
Does that run? IOW, does typing "py" launch Python?
Kind regards,
Sincerely,
Praveen Kumar
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On Sun, 9
Passin via Python-list, <
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> On 3/8/2025 5:29 AM, Praveen Kumar via Python-list wrote:
> > Hi Python community and members,
> >
> > I hope this email finds you well, I want you to be assisted in resolving
> > this following issue. kindl
ly by
accident? I don't know.
On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 at 16:59, Praveen Kumar via Python-list <
python-list@python.org> wrote:
> Hi Python community and members,
>
> I hope this email finds you well, I want you to be assisted in resolving
> this following issue. kindly look at t
,
> Sincerely,
> Praveen Kumar
> Mob: +91 9515531643
>
> On Sun, 9 Mar 2025, 03:52 Thomas Passin via Python-list, <
> python-list@python.org> wrote:
>
>> On 3/8/2025 5:29 AM, Praveen Kumar via Python-list wrote:
>> > Hi Python community and members,
>>
On 3/8/2025 5:29 AM, Praveen Kumar via Python-list wrote:
Hi Python community and members,
I hope this email finds you well, I want you to be assisted in resolving
this following issue. kindly look at the below concern,
"""I’m running into an error where I get a 'This app
Hi Python community and members,
I hope this email finds you well, I want you to be assisted in resolving
this following issue. kindly look at the below concern,
"""I’m running into an error where I get a 'This app can’t run on your PC'
pop-up with (Access is Denied err
Hello!
I'm pleased to announce version 3.13.0, the first release of branch
3.13 of SQLObject.
What's new in SQLObject
===
Drivers
---
* Extended default list of MySQL drivers to ``mysqldb``, ``mysqlclient``,
``mysql-connector``, ``mysql-connector-python``,
_2024/NELSON/VER_NC_SHP/ler_csv_areaq_prec_plota.py:69:
OptimizeWarning: Covariance of the parameters could not be estimated
Please how can I resolve this error.
Thanks,
Conrado
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I think Python compiles with fPIC by default. Something else had
happened to the OPs checkout that caused these errors. OP needs to
better describe what they were doing to properly understand the
problem.
On Sun, Mar 2, 2025 at 10:10 PM Lew Pitcher via Python-list
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>
>
> First
d so on. Omg, I didn't know there
were so many reasons... Funny is that the only real reason I really
have for no reading on-screen is that I just don't want to.
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ndependant
code, which your linker (apparently) requires for a specific type of relocation.
[snip]
HTH
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How do I compensate for
ld: error: relocation R_X86_64_32 cannot be used against symbol '_PyRuntime';
recompile with -fPIC
>>> defined in /usr/local/lib/libpython3.13.a(pylifecycle.o)
>>> referenced by thread_pthread.h:138 (Python/thread_pthread.h:138
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fast. So I keep it
> all online now.
It's much more pleasurable (to me) to read books off-screen.
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Mike wrote:
...
> My current best collection for online quality open access Python Books
> is on:
> https://nocomplexity.com/documents/pythonbook/generatedfiles/overview.html#books
>
thanks!
no need for me to print any programming books.
some old textbooks are still usef
On 16-02-2025 13:50, Jan Erik Moström via Python-list wrote:
I'm looking for a book that would teach me the lastest and greatest parts of
Python, does anyone have any recommendations?
I've looked at python.org and pythonbooks.org but I couldn't decide which one
to get.
I us
* Jan Erik Moström in comp.lang.python:
> I'm looking for a book that would teach me the lastest and greatest
> parts of Python, does anyone have any recommendations?
Wider than that, but could still fit the bill: Fluent Python
https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/fluent-python-2nd/97
On 2/16/25 18:40, Salvador Mirzo via Python-list wrote:
Jan Erik Moström writes:
On 16 Feb 2025, at 20:47, rbowman via Python-list wrote:
David Beasley's 'Python Distilled'. The author doesn't enumerate Python 3
features specifically but as the title suggests hits th
Jan Erik Moström writes:
> On 16 Feb 2025, at 20:47, rbowman via Python-list wrote:
>
>> David Beasley's 'Python Distilled'. The author doesn't enumerate Python 3
>> features specifically but as the title suggests hits the important
>> concepts.
>
&
On Mon, 17 Feb 2025 08:59:11 +1300, dn wrote:
> - on Coursera am sad to advise avoiding U.Mich courses - they tend to be
> re-worded Java (I think) content, don't follow PEP-008 and 'miss' Python
> idioms
The edx CS50 Python from Harvard is decent. It does start with t
On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 22:00:11 +0100, Jan Erik Moström wrote:
> I have done so ... to be really honest, it was when I couldn't remember
> how to create an iterator for a class I was writing, that I realized
> that I needed a refresher.
Most of my Python was related to Esri's
On 16 Feb 2025, at 23:06, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote:
> I don't have a book for them but I think you should look into the (relatively
> new) type annotation system, as well as asynchronized programming. The latter
> is especially of interest because the older techni
On 2/16/2025 4:00 PM, Jan Erik Moström via Python-list wrote:
On 16 Feb 2025, at 20:59, dn via Python-list wrote:
When stop to think about it, this is quite a request:
don't give me what I do know,
do give me what I don't know!
😜
That said, you are correct: the bulk of new pu
On 16 Feb 2025, at 20:59, dn via Python-list wrote:
> When stop to think about it, this is quite a request:
> don't give me what I do know,
> do give me what I don't know!
😜
> That said, you are correct: the bulk of new publications seem to (still) aim
> at the Begi
On 16 Feb 2025, at 20:47, rbowman via Python-list wrote:
> David Beasley's 'Python Distilled'. The author doesn't enumerate Python 3
> features specifically but as the title suggests hits the important
> concepts.
Thanks, I'll take a look
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On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 13:50:33 +0100, Jan Erik Moström wrote:
> I used to be fairly good at Python, but I haven't done any serious
> programming in the last 10 years or so. So I would like something that
> got me up-to-date with the latest features.
David Beasley's 'Pytho
On 17/02/25 01:50, Jan Erik Moström via Python-list wrote:
I'm looking for a book that would teach me the lastest and greatest parts of
Python, does anyone have any recommendations?
I've looked at python.org and pythonbooks.org but I couldn't decide which one
to get.
I used to
On 2/16/25 05:50, Jan Erik Moström via Python-list wrote:
I'm looking for a book that would teach me the lastest and greatest parts of
Python, does anyone have any recommendations?
I've looked at python.org and pythonbooks.org but I couldn't decide which one
to get.
I used to
I'm looking for a book that would teach me the lastest and greatest parts of
Python, does anyone have any recommendations?
I've looked at python.org and pythonbooks.org but I couldn't decide which one
to get.
I used to be fairly good at Python, but I haven't done any ser
nstall -s", and the installation
failed because it tried to strip Python scripts as well as the
python3.14 executable:
install -s -m 644 ./Tools/gdb/libpython.py python-gdb.py
strip: python-gdb.py: file format not recognized
install: strip process terminated abnormally
make: ***
Here comes the antepenultimate alpha.
https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-3140a5/
This is an early developer preview of Python 3.14.
Major new features of the 3.14 series, compared to 3.13:
Python 3.14 is still in development. This release, 3.14.0a5, is the fifth
of seven planned
On Tue, 11 Feb 2025 at 05:56, Grant Edwards via Python-list
wrote:
> The -dev packages also contain the man pages for the libraries. It
> surprised me at first that the man pages weren't installed by the
> "normal" lib packages. But, if you're not writing/building ap
On 2025-02-10, Chris Angelico via Python-list wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Feb 2025 at 04:04, Grant Edwards via Python-list
> wrote:
>> On 2025-02-09, Left Right via Python-list wrote:
>>
>>> You need the sources of the OpenSSL library, not the compiled library.
>>>
On Tue, 11 Feb 2025 at 04:04, Grant Edwards via Python-list
wrote:
>
> On 2025-02-09, Left Right via Python-list wrote:
>
> > You need the sources of the OpenSSL library, not the compiled library.
> > On Ubuntu, the packages with sources are typically named xxx-dev where
&
On 2025-02-09, Left Right via Python-list wrote:
> You need the sources of the OpenSSL library, not the compiled library.
> On Ubuntu, the packages with sources are typically named xxx-dev where
> xxx is the package that provides the library. I don't have a Ubuntu
> currently
d,automatic]
>> openssl/noble-updates,noble-security,now 3.0.13-0ubuntu3.4 amd64
>> [installed,automatic]
>> ssl-cert/noble,noble,now 1.1.2ubuntu1 all [installed,automatic]
>
> Thanks Jason, I have near the same result of you.
> I need to explain the context.
> I
vincent.vandevy...@oqapy.eu writes:
> Hi,
>
> Trying to compile Python-3.12.9 on Ubuntu-24.04
>
> The compilation is complete without errors but I have this message:
>
>
nd atrocious error handling.
On Sun, Feb 9, 2025 at 5:51 PM Vincent Vande Vyvre via Python-list
wrote:
>
> >
> > In case this helps you find the correct package to install:
> >
> > $ python3 -c "if True:
> > > import ssl
> > > print('
e,noble,now 1.1.2ubuntu1 all [installed,automatic]
Thanks Jason, I have near the same result of you.
I need to explain the context.
I'm on a new machine with a fresh install of Ubuntu 24.04 wich embed Python
3.12.3, no problem with that.
As I'm maintainer of some Python modules publi
>
> Trying to compile Python-3.12.9 on Ubuntu-24.04
>
> The compilation is complete without errors but I have this message:
>
>
> The necessary bits to build these opti
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wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Trying to compile Python-3.12.9 on Ubuntu-24.04
>
> The compilation is complete without errors
Hi,
Trying to compile Python-3.12.9 on Ubuntu-24.04
The compilation is complete without errors but I have this message:
The necessary bits to build these optional modules were not found
Thomas Wouters writes:
> A small release day today! That is to say the releases are relatively
> small; the day itself was of average size, as most days are.
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A small release day today! That is to say the releases are relatively
small; the day itself was of average size, as most days are.
<https://discuss.python.org/t/python-3-13-2-and-3-12-9-now-available/79509#p-225156-python-3132-1>Python
3.13.2
Python 3.13’s second maintenance release. Abo
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Hello!
I'm pleased to announce version 3.12.0.post2, the second post-release
of release 3.12.0 of branch 3.12 of SQLObject.
What's new in SQLObject
===
Installation/dependencies
-
* Use ``FormEncode`` 2.1.1 for Python 3.13.
For a more com
Maybe you'd better use descriptors?
On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 at 23:03, Ian Pilcher via Python-list <
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> GMane. Please copy me on any responses, so that I can respond with
&
call_tracing()| enables explicit recursion of the
tracing function.
Is there any reason it doesn't support
sys.call_tracing(/func/, /args/, kargs)
to call
func(*args, **kargs)
?
Best wishes
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data format (wav: using
speech_recognition's *get_wav_data*(), using numpy...)
Any suggestions (using Python 2.x)?
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あうぇくろ writes:
tpr=composite(type,print)
print(tpr('a')==tpr(1))
Why does tpr('a')==tpr(1) return True?
Because tpr always returns the value None.
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1](func[0](*args, **kwargs))
return lambda *args, **kwargs: composite(*func[1:])(func[0](*args, **kwargs
))
tpr=composite(type,print)
print(tpr('a')==tpr(1))
I subscribed to python-list, so I sent this message again.
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>
> On 2025-01-14 11:32:35 +, Chris Green via Python-list wrote:
> > Use a virtual environment, what do I have to do then to make using
> > my program (t
Chris Green via Python-list writes:
> I'm looking for Python packages that can help with text mode input,
> i.e. for use with non-GUI programs that one runs from the command
> prompt in a terminal window running a bash shell or some such.
I'd suggest giving a try to https
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On 18/01/25 12:33, Ian Pilcher via Python-list wrote:
I am making my first atte
On 18/01/25 12:33, Ian Pilcher via Python-list wrote:
I am making my first attempt to use type hinting in a new project, and
I'm quickly hitting areas that I'm having trouble understanding. One of
them is how to write type hints for a method decorator.
Here is an example that illu
your user interface is intuitive in retrospect ... it isn't intuitive
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On 2025-01-14 11:32:35 +, Chris Green via Python-list wrote:
> Use a virtual environment, what do I have to do then to make using
> my program (that uses tkintertable) 'transparent', i.e. I just
> want to be able to run the program from the command prompt l
On 1/17/25 12:03, Keith Thompson via Python-list wrote:
Alan Gauld writes:
On 15/01/2025 00:41, Keith Thompson via Python-list wrote:
Alan Gauld writes:
On 11/01/2025 14:28, Chris Green via Python-list wrote:
I'm looking for Python packages that can help with text mode input,
I ha
On 2025-01-17, Alan Gauld via Python-list wrote:
> On 15/01/2025 00:41, Keith Thompson via Python-list wrote:
>> Alan Gauld writes:
>>> On 11/01/2025 14:28, Chris Green via Python-list wrote:
>>>> I'm looking for Python packages that can help with text mode
Alan Gauld writes:
> On 15/01/2025 00:41, Keith Thompson via Python-list wrote:
>> Alan Gauld writes:
>>> On 11/01/2025 14:28, Chris Green via Python-list wrote:
>>>> I'm looking for Python packages that can help with text mode input,
>>>
>>>
On 15/01/2025 00:41, Keith Thompson via Python-list wrote:
> Alan Gauld writes:
>> On 11/01/2025 14:28, Chris Green via Python-list wrote:
>>> I'm looking for Python packages that can help with text mode input,
>>
>> The standard package for this is curses whi
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Alan Gauld writes:
> On 11/01/2025 14:28, Chris Green via Python-list wrote:
>> I'm looking for Python packages that can help with text mode input,
>
> The standard package for this is curses which comes as part
> of the standard library on *nix distros.
The thing about c
Op 11/01/2025 om 15:28 schreef Chris Green via Python-list:
I'm looking for Python packages that can help with text mode input,
i.e. for use with non-GUI programs that one runs from the command
prompt in a terminal window running a bash shell or some such.
What I'm specifically afte
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