Re: Terminal Emulator (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)

2024-05-19 Thread MRAB via Python-list
On 2024-05-19 19:13, Gilmeh Serda via Python-list wrote: On Sun, 19 May 2024 08:32:46 +0100, Alan Gauld wrote: I've honestly never experienced this "nightmare". I install stuff and it just works. Hear! Hear! Me too! And all that. I'm on Manjaro, which is a tad finick

Re: Terminal Emulator (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)

2024-05-19 Thread Barry via Python-list
> On 18 May 2024, at 16:27, Peter J. Holzer via Python-list > wrote: > > I don't think Linux users have to deal with venvs Modern debian (ubuntu) and fedora block users installing using pip. You must use a venv to pip install packages from pypi now. This is implemented in p

Re: Terminal Emulator (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)

2024-05-20 Thread Gordinator via Python-list
I'm on Manjaro Of course, I'm not here to tell you how to use your computer, and it's great that you're using Linux, but I'd suggest that you look into installing Arch Linux proper. Arch Linux isn't as difficult as people make it out to be (I'd argue that anyone who's had to deal with the C

Re: Terminal Emulator (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)

2024-05-20 Thread Gordinator via Python-list
On 20/05/2024 10:58, Peter J. Holzer wrote: On 2024-05-20 00:26:03 +0200, Roel Schroeven via Python-list wrote: Skip Montanaro via Python-list schreef op 20/05/2024 om 0:08: Modern debian (ubuntu) and fedora block users installing using pip. Even if you're telling it to install in ~/.

Cprod -- (writing this: itertools.product([0, 1], repeat=N )

2024-05-21 Thread HenHanna via Python-list
How can i write this function Cprod (Cartesian Product) simply? (writing this out: itertools.product([0, 1], repeat=N ) The value can be a list or a Tuple. cprod([0, 1], 1) => ((0) (1)) cprod([0, 1], 2) => ((0,0) (0,1) (1,0) (1,1)) This work

Re: Cprod -- (writing this: itertools.product([0, 1], repeat=N )

2024-05-21 Thread dn via Python-list
On 22/05/24 07:14, HenHanna via Python-list wrote: How can i write this function Cprod (Cartesian Product) simply?     (writing this out: itertools.product([0, 1], repeat=N ) The value can be a list or a Tuple.     cprod([0, 1], 1) => ((0)

Re: Cprod -- (writing this: itertools.product([0, 1], repeat=N )

2024-05-22 Thread HenHanna via Python-list
dn wrote: On 22/05/24 07:14, HenHanna via Python-list wrote: How can i write this function Cprod (Cartesian Product) simply?     (writing this out: itertools.product([0, 1], repeat=N ) The value can be a list or a Tuple.     cprod([0, 1], 1) => ((0)

Any marginally usable programming language approaches an ill defined barely usable re-implementation of half of Common-Lisp

2024-05-27 Thread HenHanna via Python-list
On 5/27/2024 7:18 AM, Cor wrote: Some entity, AKA "B. Pym" , wrote this mindboggling stuff: (selectively-snipped-or-not-p) On 12/16/2023, [email protected] wrote: Any marginally usable programming language approaches an ill defined barely usable re-implementation of half of common-lisp

Re: Weird Stuff (Markdown, syntax highlighting and Python)

2024-05-27 Thread dn via Python-list
umentation systems; here, the objective appears to be using Python to generate Markdown. How much have you used Markdown to any serious degree, before attempting this feat? On 26/05/24 18:28, Gilmeh Serda via Python-list wrote: The web claims (I think on all pages I've read about Markdown a

Re: SOLVED! Re: Weird Stuff (Markdown, syntax highlighting and Python)

2024-05-29 Thread o1bigtenor via Python-list
On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 9:48 PM Gilmeh Serda via Python-list < [email protected]> wrote: > > Solved by using a different method. > > - - - And that was how? TIA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Flubbed it in the second interation through the string: range error... HOW?

2024-05-29 Thread MRAB via Python-list
On 2024-05-29 05:33, Kevin M. Wilson via Python-list wrote: The following is my effort to understand how to process a string, letter, by letter: def myfunc(name):        index = 0    howmax = len(name)    # while (index <= howmax):    while (index < howmax):        if (index %

Re: Flubbed it in the second interation through the string: range error... HOW?

2024-05-29 Thread MRAB via Python-list
On 2024-05-29 15:32, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote: On 5/29/2024 8:55 AM, Kevin M. Wilson wrote: Please recall, I said the format for the email failed to retain the proper indents. I'll attach a picture of the code! Purpose; to uppercase every other letter in a string. Thanks all

Re: Any marginally usable programming language approaches an ill defined barely usable re-implementation of half of Common-Lisp

2024-05-29 Thread HenHanna via Python-list
On 5/27/2024 1:59 PM, [email protected] wrote: On 2024-05-27 at 12:37:01 -0700, HenHanna via Python-list wrote: On 5/27/2024 7:18 AM, Cor wrote: Some entity, AKA "B. Pym" , wrote this mindboggling stuff: (selectively-snipped-or-not-p) On 12/16/2023, c...@clsne

Re: SOLVED! Re: Weird Stuff (Markdown, syntax highlighting and Python)

2024-05-29 Thread dn via Python-list
On 29/05/24 06:49, Gilmeh Serda via Python-list wrote: Solved by using a different method. Hedonist for hire... no job too easy! This combination of sig-file and content seems sadly ironic. How about CONTRIBUTING to the community by explaining 'the solution' to people who

From JoyceUlysses.txt -- words occurring exactly once

2024-05-30 Thread HenHanna via Python-list
Given a text file of a novel (JoyceUlysses.txt) ... could someone give me a pretty fast (and simple) Python program that'd give me a list of all words occurring exactly once? -- Also, a list of words occurring once, twice or 3 times re: hyphenated words(you can treat

Re: From JoyceUlysses.txt -- words occurring exactly once

2024-05-30 Thread dn via Python-list
On 31/05/24 08:03, HenHanna via Python-list wrote: Given a text file of a novel (JoyceUlysses.txt) ... could someone give me a pretty fast (and simple) Python program that'd give me a list of all words occurring exactly once?   -- Also, a list of words occurring once, twi

Re: From JoyceUlysses.txt -- words occurring exactly once

2024-05-31 Thread HenHanna via Python-list
On 5/30/2024 2:18 PM, dn wrote: On 31/05/24 08:03, HenHanna via Python-list wrote: Given a text file of a novel (JoyceUlysses.txt) ... could someone give me a pretty fast (and simple) Python program that'd give me a list of all words occurring exactly once?    -- Also, a

Lprint = ( Lisp-style printing ( of lists and strings (etc.) ) in Python )

2024-05-31 Thread HenHanna via Python-list
;;; Pls tell me about little tricks you use in Python or Lisp. [('the', 36225), ('and', 17551), ('of', 16759), ('i', 16696), ('a', 15816), ('to', 15722), ('that', 11252), ('in', 10743), ('it', 10687)] ((the 36225) (and 17551) (of 16759) (i 16696) (a 15816) (to 15722) (that 11252)

Re: From JoyceUlysses.txt -- words occurring exactly once

2024-06-04 Thread dn via Python-list
On 31/05/24 14:26, HenHanna via Python-list wrote: On 5/30/2024 2:18 PM, dn wrote: On 31/05/24 08:03, HenHanna via Python-list wrote: Given a text file of a novel (JoyceUlysses.txt) ... could someone give me a pretty fast (and simple) Python program that'd give me a list of all

in Python? -- Chunk -- (ChunkC '(a a b b b)), ==> ((a 2) (b 3))

2024-06-09 Thread HenHanna via Python-list
Chunk, ChunkC -- nice simple way(s) to write these in Python? (Chunk '(a a ba a a b b)) ==> ((a a) (b) (a a a) (b b)) (Chunk '(a a a a b c c a a d e e e e)) ==> ((a a a a) (b) (c c) (a a) (d) (e e e e)) (Chunk '(2 2 foo bar bar j j j k baz baz))

Re: in Python? -- Chunk -- (ChunkC '(a a b b b)), ==> ((a 2) (b 3))

2024-06-09 Thread MRAB via Python-list
On 2024-06-09 22:20, HenHanna via Python-list wrote: Chunk, ChunkC -- nice simple way(s) to write these in Python? (Chunk '(a a ba a a b b)) ==> ((a a) (b) (a a a) (b b)) (Chunk '(a a a a b c c a a d e e e e)) ==> ((a a a a) (b) (c c) (a

Re: in Python? -- Chunk -- (ChunkC '(a a b b b)), ==> ((a 2) (b 3))

2024-06-10 Thread HenHanna via Python-list
On 6/9/2024 3:50 PM, MRAB wrote: On 2024-06-09 22:20, HenHanna via Python-list wrote: Chunk, ChunkC -- nice simple way(s) to write these in Python? (Chunk  '(a a   b    a a a   b b))   ==> ((a a) (b)  (a a a) (b b)) (Chunk  '(a a a a   b   c c   a a   d   e e e e))  

Re: in Python? -- Chunk -- (ChunkC '(a a b b b)), ==> ((a 2) (b 3))

2024-06-10 Thread HenHanna via Python-list
shoot whatever we say down. A considerate person would ask questions more clearly and perhaps explain what language they are showing us code from and so on. Life is too short to waste. -Original Message- From: Python-list On Behalf Of HenHanna via Python-list Sent: Sunday, June 9, 2024 5

Re: in Python? -- Chunk -- (ChunkC '(a a b b b)), ==> ((a 2) (b 3))

2024-06-11 Thread HenHanna via Python-list
n... How can this code work??? , when it's > def chunk1(seq): and it's [s] within the def-body ? it seemed as if the Compiler was doing a DWIM (Do what i mean) trick. On 09/06/2024 22:20, HenHanna via Python-list wr

Re: Couldn't install numpy on Python 2.7

2024-06-12 Thread Gordinator via Python-list
On 12/06/2024 12:30, marc nicole wrote: I am trying to install numpy library on Python 2.7.15 in PyCharm but the error message I get is: ERROR: Could not find a version that satisfies the requirement numpy (from versions: none) ERROR: No matching distribution found for numpy c:\python27\lib\sit

Re: Couldn't install numpy on Python 2.7

2024-06-12 Thread MRAB via Python-list
On 2024-06-12 17:31, AVI GROSS via Python-list wrote: I am sure there is inertia to move from an older product and some people need a reason like this where the old becomes untenable. It seems Microsoft is having a problem where something lik 2/3 of Windows users have not upgraded from Windows

Re: in Python: (101 102 103 201 202 203 301 302 303 401 402 403 )

2024-06-14 Thread candycanearter07 via Python-list
Phil Carmody wrote at 12:01 this Thursday (GMT): > Paul Rubin writes: >> HenHanna writes: >>> is there another (simple) way to write this? >> >> Yes, but please consider doing these easy exercises yourself instead of >> fobbing them onto other people. > > Hen's probably just an experimental GPT.

Re: Anonymous email users

2024-06-14 Thread dn via Python-list
On 15/06/24 10:00, AVI GROSS via Python-list wrote: I notice that in some recent discussions, we have users who cannot be replied to directly as their email addresses are not valid ones, and I believe on purpose. Examples in the thread I was going to reply to are: ... It's an intere

Re: Suggested python feature: allowing except in context maneger

2024-06-17 Thread j via Python-list
On 2024-06-13 23:49, Cameron Simpson via Python-list wrote: On 13Jun2024 19:44, [email protected] wrote: Why not use: ``` try:  with open()...    ... except FileNotFoundError:  ... ``` This is exactly what the OP was expressing dissatisfaction with. I'm -1 on the idea myself

Re: Anonymous email users

2024-06-17 Thread dn via Python-list
On 18/06/24 05:29, Roel Schroeven via Python-list wrote: AVI GROSS via Python-list schreef op 17/06/2024 om 17:03: I simply am thinking that people who do not allow me to easily reply to them directly, should be ignored by me and not get my cooperation that way. FWIW, personally I (mostly

Re: win32clipboard writing to clipboard on Windows 11

2024-06-17 Thread MRAB via Python-list
On 2024-06-17 20:27, Rob Cliffe via Python-list wrote: Recently I acquired a new laptop running WIndows 11; my previous one uses WIndows 10.  I encountered a strange problem: I am using the win32clipboard backage (part of pywin32), and when I use SetClipboardData() to write text which consists

Re: Timezone in HH:MM Format

2024-06-18 Thread MRAB via Python-list
On 2024-06-19 00:32, Ivan "Rambius" Ivanov via Python-list wrote: Hello, How can I convert a date, usually datetime.now(), into a format where the timezone is in hours:minutes format. I was able to get that format in shell: $ date +%Y-%m-%dT%H:%M:%S%:z 2024-06-18T19:24:09-04:00 The

glibc strverscmp called from python

2024-06-20 Thread vallor via Python-list
So there's been discussion in comp.lang.c and comp.unix.shell about doing a "versionsort(3)" type sort on a list of parameters. glibc offers strverscmp(3) for this type of sort, and here I am posting a q&d python program to expose that to its sort routine for commentary and future reference. Cave

Re: Decoding bytes to text strings in Python 2

2024-06-23 Thread MRAB via Python-list
On 2024-06-24 00:30, Chris Angelico via Python-list wrote: On Mon, 24 Jun 2024 at 08:20, Rayner Lucas via Python-list wrote: In article , [email protected] says... > > If you switch to a Linux system, it should work correctly, and you'll > be able to migrate the rest of the way

Re: Anonymous email users

2024-06-24 Thread dn via Python-list
On 25/06/24 05:17, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote: On 6/24/2024 5:51 AM, Barry Scott via Python-list wrote: On 23 Jun 2024, at 06:58, Sebastian Wells via Python-list wrote: The spammers won the spam wars, so even if you have someone's real e-mail address, that's no guarante

python for irc client

2024-07-04 Thread Daniel via Python-list
Hi guys - I have historical experience developing sofwtare for my own use. It has been quite a while since doing so and the advent of new languages has brought me here. Python has built quite a reputation. It would be fun to pick up a new language while I'm at it. I've been a consumer of IRC sinc

Re: python for irc client

2024-07-04 Thread inhahe via Python-list
On Thu, Jul 4, 2024 at 5:14 AM Daniel via Python-list < [email protected]> wrote: > Hi guys - > > I have historical experience developing sofwtare for my own use. It has > been > quite a while since doing so and the advent of new languages has brought me > here.

Re: python for irc client

2024-07-04 Thread inhahe via Python-list
On Thu, Jul 4, 2024 at 5:22 AM inhahe wrote: > > > On Thu, Jul 4, 2024 at 5:14 AM Daniel via Python-list < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> >> In your wisdom, would python be a good environment to accomplish this? > > > I think Python would be

Re: python for irc client

2024-07-04 Thread Daniel via Python-list
inhahe writes: > On Thu, Jul 4, 2024 at 5:14 AM Daniel via Python-list < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi guys - >> >> I have historical experience developing sofwtare for my own use. It has >> been >> quite a while since doing so and the a

Re: Best use of "open" context manager

2024-07-06 Thread dn via Python-list
On 6/07/24 22:49, Rob Cliffe via Python-list wrote: Consider this scenario (which I ran into in real life):     I want to open a text file and do a lot of processing on the lines of that file.     If the file does not exist I want to take appropriate action, e.g. print an error message and

Re: Best (simplest) way to share data between processes

2024-07-07 Thread Gordinator via Python-list
On 06/07/2024 12:32, Stefan Ram wrote: But why overengineer? If you feel comfortable with the file solution, go for it! The only drawback might be that it's a bit slower than other approaches. I absolutely agree. Overengineering is generally a bad idea because you're using a complex s

Re: Best (simplest) way to share data between processes

2024-07-07 Thread Barry via Python-list
> On 7 Jul 2024, at 22:13, Chris Green via Python-list > wrote: > > a simple file lock can then > be used to prevent simultaneous access (well, simultaneous access when > the writing process is writing). There is a simple pattern to make this robust. Write new values to

Re: Best (simplest) way to share data between processes

2024-07-07 Thread MRAB via Python-list
On 2024-07-07 23:27, Barry via Python-list wrote: On 7 Jul 2024, at 22:13, Chris Green via Python-list wrote: a simple file lock can then be used to prevent simultaneous access (well, simultaneous access when the writing process is writing). There is a simple pattern to make this robust

Re: python for irc client

2024-07-08 Thread orzodk via Python-list
Daniel via Python-list writes: > One thing missing is a good textmode irc client that will connect to > quassel core. > > I've seen efforts to make a plugin for weechat but, to date, I don't see much > progress on that end. > > In your wisdom, would python be a

A new feature request - parser add_mutually_exclusive_group - add a default value

2024-07-08 Thread אורי via Python-list
Hi, Please look at this Stack Overflow post: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/78722378/parser-add-mutually-exclusive-group-how-can-i-set-a-default-value 1. Is there a way to add a default to parser add_mutually_exclusive_group groups - a value that will be set by default? In this case I want t

Re: A new feature request - parser add_mutually_exclusive_group - add a default value

2024-07-09 Thread אורי via Python-list
Thank you. Uri. אורי [email protected] On Tue, Jul 9, 2024 at 6:40 PM Barry Scott wrote: > > > On 9 Jul 2024, at 06:13, ⁨אורי via Python-list⁩ <⁨[email protected]⁩> > wrote: > > I tried to subscribe to Python-ideas > > > These days ideas are discussed on https://discuss.python.org/ > It is

python repl vi mode line editing not working.

2024-07-11 Thread Tobiah via Python-list
Kubuntu 24.04. sinewave:toby ~(1)> cat .inputrc set editing-mode vi set keymap vi sinewave:toby ~(1)> cat .editrc bind -v bind \\t rl_complete sinewave:toby ~(1)> python Python 2.7.18 (default, Jul 8 2024, 12:49:12) [GCC 13.2.0] on linux2 Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for mor

Problem using mysql library

2024-07-11 Thread Tobiah via Python-list
sinewave:toby ~(1)> python Python 2.7.18 (default, Jul 8 2024, 12:49:12) [GCC 13.2.0] on linux2 Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. import MySQLdb Traceback (most recent call last): File "", line 1, in File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/MySQLdb/

Re: python repl vi mode line editing not working.

2024-07-11 Thread Tobiah via Python-list
For this to work, the Python implementation should use the same readline library as your shell, I guess. It works in python3, so I guess my problem is that I'm compiling python (I think kubuntu dropped python2), but I don't see any relevant options in the configure help. -- https://m

Re: python repl vi mode line editing not working.

2024-07-11 Thread Tobiah via Python-list
I see the literal 'escape' character + 'k', when it should let me edit previous commands. I did have to compile my own python because I'm using 2.7 on this machine. I figured it out. I needed to apt install libreadline-dev. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Issue with pip Installation on My Laptop

2024-07-27 Thread MRAB via Python-list
On 2024-07-27 21:58, Mats Wichmann via Python-list wrote: On 7/26/24 16:28, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote: On 7/26/2024 7:25 AM, Lizna Shah via Python-list wrote: OSError: [WinError 225] Operation did not complete successfully because the file contains a virus or potentially unwanted

I need a free LAMP hosting and a iMac

2024-07-29 Thread Benjamin via Python-list
Hi, For several months I have searched free web hosing in Google, but have not find a satisfying result now. Any body know some good LAMP free web hosting? And, I have lost job since 2018, my macbook has only 2 intel core, I want to buy a new iMac for person programming, but I have only little

Re: Predicting an object over an pretrained model is not working

2024-07-30 Thread dn via Python-list
On 31/07/24 06:18, marc nicole via Python-list wrote: Hello all, I want to predict an object by given as input an image and want to have my model be able to predict the label. I have trained a model using tensorflow based on annotated database where the target object to predict was added to the

Help needed - - running into issues with python and its tools

2024-08-03 Thread o1bigtenor via Python-list
Greetings Looking at ESP8266 and wanting to program it using micropython (really don't want to have to learn C++ (not enough hours in the day as it is!!)). One of the tools I need to be able to use is esptools - - well in the devuan world you need to run that on either Devaun 3 or 5 - - - its ju

Re: Help needed - - running into issues with python and its tools

2024-08-03 Thread dn via Python-list
On 4/08/24 08:17, o1bigtenor via Python-list wrote: Greetings Looking at ESP8266 and wanting to program it using micropython (really don't want to have to learn C++ (not enough hours in the day as it is!!)). One of the tools I need to be able to use is esptools - - well in the devuan

Re: Help needed - - running into issues with python and its tools

2024-08-03 Thread o1bigtenor via Python-list
On Sat, Aug 3, 2024 at 4:06 PM dn via Python-list wrote: > On 4/08/24 08:17, o1bigtenor via Python-list wrote: > > Greetings > > > > Looking at ESP8266 and wanting to program it using micropython (really > > don't want to have to learn C++ (not enough hours in the

Re: Help needed - - running into issues with python and its tools

2024-08-03 Thread dn via Python-list
On 4/08/24 09:34, o1bigtenor via Python-list wrote: On Sat, Aug 3, 2024 at 4:06 PM dn via Python-list wrote: On 4/08/24 08:17, o1bigtenor via Python-list wrote: Greetings Looking at ESP8266 and wanting to program it using micropython (really don't want to have to learn C++ (not enough

Re: Help needed - - running into issues with python and its tools

2024-08-03 Thread o1bigtenor via Python-list
On Sat, Aug 3, 2024 at 6:20 PM Cameron Simpson via Python-list < [email protected]> wrote: > On 03Aug2024 16:34, o1bigtenor wrote: > >So please - - - how do I set up a venv so that I can install and run > >python > >3.12 > >(and other needed programs relate

Re: Help needed - - running into issues with python and its tools

2024-08-03 Thread o1bigtenor via Python-list
On Sat, Aug 3, 2024 at 7:11 PM dn via Python-list wrote: > On 4/08/24 09:34, o1bigtenor via Python-list wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 3, 2024 at 4:06 PM dn via Python-list < > [email protected]> > > wrote: > > > >> On 4/08/24 08:17, o1bigtenor

Re: Help needed - - running into issues with python and its tools

2024-08-05 Thread o1bigtenor via Python-list
On Sun, Aug 4, 2024 at 4:24 AM Peter J. Holzer via Python-list < [email protected]> wrote: > On 2024-08-03 15:17:11 -0500, o1bigtenor via Python-list wrote: > > One of the tools I need to be able to use is esptools - - well in the > > devuan world you need to run that

Re: Help needed - - running into issues with python and its tools

2024-08-05 Thread o1bigtenor via Python-list
On Sun, Aug 4, 2024 at 8:49 AM Mats Wichmann via Python-list < [email protected]> wrote: > On 8/3/24 20:03, o1bigtenor via Python-list wrote: > > > My question was, is and will be (and the doc absolutely doesn't cover it) > > how do I install a different versi

Re: Help needed - - running into issues with python and its tools

2024-08-05 Thread o1bigtenor via Python-list
Matt - if you would rather that you were not included in the address list - - please advise. On Mon, Aug 5, 2024 at 8:51 AM Mats Wichmann wrote: > On 8/5/24 06:48, o1bigtenor via Python-list wrote: > > On Sun, Aug 4, 2024 at 8:49 AM Mats Wichmann via Python-list < > > pyth

Re: Help needed - - running into issues with python and its tools

2024-08-05 Thread o1bigtenor via Python-list
On Mon, Aug 5, 2024 at 3:55 PM Bill Deegan wrote: > Your approach is wrong. > You don't build python from source using pip. > > You don't install new versions of python into a venv either. > > Have you read the following? > https://docs.micropython.org/en/latest/esp8266/tutorial/intro.html > > Th

Re: Help needed - - running into issues with python and its tools

2024-08-05 Thread o1bigtenor via Python-list
On Mon, Aug 5, 2024 at 3:56 PM Mats Wichmann wrote: > > > On Mon, Aug 5, 2024 at 8:51 AM Mats Wichmann > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > On 8/5/24 06:48, o1bigtenor via Python-list wrote: > > > On Sun, Aug 4, 2024 at 8:49 AM Mats Wi

python C-api and thread

2024-08-05 Thread aotto1968 via Python-list
hi, Is it possible to run two completely independent Python interpreters in one process, each using a thread? By independent, I mean that no data is shared between the interpreters and thus the C API can be used without any other "lock/GIL" etc. mfg -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinf

Re: Help needed - - running into issues with python and its tools

2024-08-06 Thread o1bigtenor via Python-list
On Mon, Aug 5, 2024 at 10:36 PM Bill Deegan wrote: > why reply to me instead of to the list? > It's generally considered bad form to do so. > Got it - - - except this list wants only reply all the next one wants only reply and keeping straight which is which isn't always happening. I did apologi

Re: python C-api and thread (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)

2024-08-06 Thread aotto1968 via Python-list
On 06.08.24 02:32, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: On Mon, 5 Aug 2024 23:19:14 +0200, aotto1968 wrote: Is it possible to run two completely independent Python interpreters in one process, each using a thread? By independent, I mean that no data is shared between the interpreters and thus the C API

Re: python C-api and thread

2024-08-06 Thread aotto1968 via Python-list
On 06.08.24 04:34, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2024-08-05, aotto1968 via Python-list wrote: Is it possible to run two completely independent Python interpreters in one process, each using a thread? By independent, I mean that no data is shared between the interpreters and thus the C API can be

Re: Help needed - - running into issues with python and its tools

2024-08-06 Thread o1bigtenor via Python-list
On Tue, Aug 6, 2024 at 10:53 AM Bill Deegan wrote: > I’m not looking through all the packages you have installed > > (Ctrl-F is your friend - - - ) > What version of python is installed on your system? > > There are actually 3 versions installed - - - which is why the whole list was posted. You

python3 package import difference?

2024-08-07 Thread Tobiah via Python-list
I have an old library from 20 some years ago for use with python2, that is structured like this: rcs ├── dbi │   ├── __init__.py │   ├── dbi.py │   └── regos.py └── __init__.py -- *empty* the __init__.py file under 'rcs' is empty. The one under rcs.dbi contains:

magic-wormhole 0.15.0

2024-08-07 Thread meejah via Python-list
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Greetings, I'm gruntled to announce that magic-wormhole 0.15.0 is released. Magic Wormhole is a Python library and CLI tool to securely get arbitrary data from one computer to another using short, one-time, human- pronouncable codes and end-to-end

Re: troglodytes

2024-08-14 Thread geodandw via Python-list
, Aug 13, 2024 at 4:56 PM Michael Torrie via Python-list wrote: Why do you have to belittle other people? -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: bring back nntp library to python3

2024-08-14 Thread dn via Python-list
On 15/08/24 10:56, Alan Gauld via Python-list wrote: On 14/08/2024 23:32, Left Right via Python-list wrote: Lots of people care but the ability to influence these decisions seems to have been removed far from the general python user community. Python has moved from the BDFL/Bazaar to the

Re: troglodytes

2024-08-15 Thread o1bigtenor via Python-list
On Wed, Aug 14, 2024 at 9:06 PM Mike Dewhirst via Python-list < [email protected]> wrote: > On 14/08/2024 12:54 am, Michael Torrie via Python-list wrote: > > On 8/13/24 3:24 AM, Robin Becker via Python-list wrote: > >> I am clearly one of the troglodytes referred

performance test on python with C API interface

2024-08-20 Thread aotto1968 via Python-list
I would like to present you with a performance test where Python performs very well in relation to the NHI1 project regarding the integration of Python into C. -> results: http://thedev.nhi1.de/theLink/main/md_docs_2main_2README__PERFORMANCE.htm#README_PERFORMANCE -> project: http://thedev

new here

2024-08-20 Thread Daniel via Python-list
Hi folks - New here. I've perused some posts and haven't seen a posting FAQ for this NG. I'm learning python right now to realize some hobby goals I have regarding some smolnet services. What are the NG standards on pasting code in messages? Do yall prefer I post a pastebin link if it's over a cer

Re: new here

2024-08-20 Thread MRAB via Python-list
On 2024-08-20 23:26, Daniel via Python-list wrote: Hi folks - New here. I've perused some posts and haven't seen a posting FAQ for this NG. I'm learning python right now to realize some hobby goals I have regarding some smolnet services. What are the NG standards on pasting code

Re: new here

2024-08-20 Thread rbowman via Python-list
On Tue, 20 Aug 2024 23:26:39 +0100, Daniel wrote: > New here. I've perused some posts and haven't seen a posting FAQ for > this NG. I'm learning python right now to realize some hobby goals I > have regarding some smolnet services. What are the NG standards on > pasting code in messages? Do yall p

Re: new here

2024-08-20 Thread rbowman via Python-list
On Tue, 20 Aug 2024 23:16:48 -0400, avi.e.gross wrote: > I do wonder if the people at python.org want multiple forums. There is > also one that sort of tutors people that obviously has an overlapping > but different audience. https://realpython.com/ That's a mixed bag. Joining is $50 USD/month o

Re: new here

2024-08-21 Thread dn via Python-list
On 21/08/24 10:26, Daniel via Python-list wrote: Hi folks - New here. I've perused some posts and haven't seen a posting FAQ for this NG. I'm learning python right now to realize some hobby goals I have regarding some smolnet services. What are the NG standards on pasting code

Re: new here

2024-08-21 Thread Daniel via Python-list
dn writes: > On 21/08/24 10:26, Daniel via Python-list wrote: >> Hi folks - >> New here. I've perused some posts and haven't seen a posting FAQ for >> this NG. I'm learning python right now to realize some hobby goals I >> have regarding some smol

Re: new here

2024-08-21 Thread Daniel via Python-list
rbowman writes: > On Tue, 20 Aug 2024 23:26:39 +0100, Daniel wrote: > >> New here. I've perused some posts and haven't seen a posting FAQ for >> this NG. I'm learning python right now to realize some hobby goals I >> have regarding some smolnet services. What are the NG standards on >> pasting co

Re: new here

2024-08-21 Thread dn via Python-list
On 22/08/24 09:15, Daniel via Python-list wrote: rbowman writes: On Tue, 20 Aug 2024 23:26:39 +0100, Daniel wrote: ... smolnet, as in things like Lesser used protocols not known by many in the mainstream. Such as: gopher, gemini, finger, spartan, titan, etc. An example of use, here

Re: new here

2024-08-22 Thread rbowman via Python-list
On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 22:04:14 +0100, Daniel wrote: > I am on forums but tend to stay away from them unless I absolutely have > to. I like newsgroups as they are - though I have noticed a massive drop > in users ever since Google dropped their groups service. I also saw a > minor drop in spam. Abso

Re: new here

2024-08-22 Thread rbowman via Python-list
On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 22:15:37 +0100, Daniel wrote: > Lesser used protocols not known by many in the mainstream. Such as: > > gopher, gemini, finger, spartan, titan, etc. > > An example of use, here's a weather service tied to a finger. Put your > city name as the user. This isn't mine, but it is

Re: new here

2024-08-22 Thread rbowman via Python-list
On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 13:43:59 +1200, dn wrote: > The OpSys on this machine no longer features finger (available for > installation as an 'extra'). My Ubuntu 22.04 box has it, the Fedora 40 one doesn't. Ubuntu offers to install gopher, Fedora doesn't. Go figure. -- https://mail.python.org/mailma

Re: new here

2024-08-22 Thread Daniel via Python-list
rbowman writes: > On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 22:15:37 +0100, Daniel wrote: > >> Lesser used protocols not known by many in the mainstream. Such as: >> >> gopher, gemini, finger, spartan, titan, etc. >> >> An example of use, here's a weather service tied to a finger. Put your >> city name as the user.

Re: new here

2024-08-22 Thread Daniel via Python-list
Jason Friedman writes: > On Wed, Aug 21, 2024 at 4:04 PM Daniel via Python-list < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> >> An example of use, here's a weather service tied to a finger. Put your >> city name as the user. This isn't mine, but it is insp

Re: new here

2024-08-22 Thread rbowman via Python-list
On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 10:40:52 -0700, Paul Rubin wrote: > The Pico uses MicroPython which is stuck on an old version of Python, > unfortunately. I think it's up to 3.4 in general and erratic past that. It doesn't have the match from 3.10. I don't think it has f-strings though it may have the wal

Re: new here

2024-08-22 Thread rbowman via Python-list
On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 09:10:00 +0100, Daniel wrote: > If you have lynx, you can visit this gopher interface to Wikipedia: > > gopher://gopherpedia.com Yeah, that works and I could find Hillbilly Elegy (film). The text was fine but the 'Accolades' table was garbled. It came up on the Netflix reco

Re: new here

2024-08-22 Thread dn via Python-list
On 23/08/24 07:49, rbowman via Python-list wrote: On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 10:40:52 -0700, Paul Rubin wrote: The Pico uses MicroPython which is stuck on an old version of Python, unfortunately. How did this enter the conversation/thread? Paul's 'contribution' does not even appear

Re: new here

2024-08-22 Thread rbowman via Python-list
On Fri, 23 Aug 2024 08:36:02 +1200, dn wrote: > On 23/08/24 07:49, rbowman via Python-list wrote: >> On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 10:40:52 -0700, Paul Rubin wrote: >> >>> The Pico uses MicroPython which is stuck on an old version of Python, >>> unfortunately. > &

Re: new here

2024-08-22 Thread dn via Python-list
On 23/08/24 15:43, rbowman via Python-list wrote: On Fri, 23 Aug 2024 08:36:02 +1200, dn wrote: On 23/08/24 07:49, rbowman via Python-list wrote: On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 10:40:52 -0700, Paul Rubin wrote: The Pico uses MicroPython which is stuck on an old version of Python, unfortunately. How

Re: new here

2024-08-25 Thread rbowman via Python-list
On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 19:56:54 -0700, Paul Rubin wrote: > With MicroPython on the Pico, you use some command line utility to > transfer files instead, but it is no big deal. Loading the UF2 is easy. https://www.raspberrypi.com/documentation/microcontrollers/ micropython.html I use VS Code with th

Re: new here

2024-08-25 Thread rbowman via Python-list
On Fri, 23 Aug 2024 16:23:42 +1200, dn wrote: > Adding a display to the Pico-W is my next project... After that, gyros > (am thinking it may not go so well, on balance... hah!). https://toptechboy.com/two-axis-tilt-meter-displaying-pitch-and-roll- using-an-mpu6050-on-the-raspberry-pi-pico-w/ You

Re: Is there a better way? [combining f-string, thousands separator, right align]

2024-08-25 Thread MRAB via Python-list
On 2024-08-25 16:12, Gilmeh Serda via Python-list wrote: Subject explains it, or ask. This is a bloody mess: s = "123456789" # arrives as str f"{f'{int(s):,}': >20}" ' 123,456,789' You don't need to format twice; you can combi

Re: new here

2024-08-25 Thread dn via Python-list
It appears there were some delays in the email/servers. Thanks for this (and earlier) ideas and advice! On 23/08/24 17:38, rbowman via Python-list wrote: On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 19:56:54 -0700, Paul Rubin wrote: With MicroPython on the Pico, you use some command line utility to transfer files

Re: new here

2024-08-25 Thread MRAB via Python-list
On 2024-08-26 02:29, AVI GROSS via Python-list wrote: If everyone will pardon my curiosity, who and what purposes are these smaller environments for and do many people use them? I mean the price of a typical minimal laptop is not a big deal today. So are these for some sort of embedded uses? I

Re: Is there a better way? [combining f-string, thousands separator, right align]

2024-08-26 Thread dn via Python-list
On 26/08/24 03:12, Gilmeh Serda via Python-list wrote: Subject explains it, or ask. This is a bloody mess: s = "123456789" # arrives as str f"{f'{int(s):,}': >20}" ' 123,456,789' With recent improvements to the expressions within F-st

Re: Is there a better way? [combining f-string, thousands separator, right align]

2024-08-26 Thread dn via Python-list
On 26/08/24 23:00, Dan Sommers via Python-list wrote: On 2024-08-26 at 20:42:32 +1200, dn via Python-list wrote: and if we really want to go over-board: RIGHT_JUSTIFIED = ">" THOUSANDS_SEPARATOR = "," s_format = F"{RIGHT_JUSTIFIED}{S_FIELD_WIDTH}{THOUSANDS_SEPAR

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