Re: From JoyceUlysses.txt -- words occurring exactly once

2024-06-01 Thread Mats Wichmann via Python-list
On 5/31/24 11:59, Dieter Maurer via Python-list wrote: hmmm, I "sent" this but there was some problem and it remained unsent. Just in case it hasn't All Been Said Already, here's the retry: HenHanna wrote at 2024-5-30 13:03 -0700: Given a text file of a novel (JoyceUly

Re: From JoyceUlysses.txt -- words occurring exactly once

2024-06-03 Thread Edward Teach via Python-list
On Sat, 1 Jun 2024 13:34:11 -0600 Mats Wichmann wrote: > On 5/31/24 11:59, Dieter Maurer via Python-list wrote: > > hmmm, I "sent" this but there was some problem and it remained > unsent. Just in case it hasn't All Been Said Already, here's the > retry: >

Re: From JoyceUlysses.txt -- words occurring exactly once

2024-06-03 Thread Grant Edwards via Python-list
On 2024-06-03, Edward Teach via Python-list wrote: > The Gutenburg Project publishes "plain text". That's another > problem, because "plain text" means UTF-8and that means > unicode...and that means running some sort of unicode-to-ascii > conversion

Re: From JoyceUlysses.txt -- words occurring exactly once

2024-06-04 Thread Dieter Maurer via Python-list
Edward Teach wrote at 2024-6-3 10:47 +0100: > ... >The Gutenburg Project publishes "plain text". That's another problem, >because "plain text" means UTF-8and that means unicode...and that >means running some sort of unicode-to-ascii conversion in order to get >something like "words". A couple

Re: From JoyceUlysses.txt -- words occurring exactly once

2024-06-04 Thread Edward Teach via Python-list
On Mon, 03 Jun 2024 14:58:26 -0400 (EDT) Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-06-03, Edward Teach via Python-list > wrote: > > > The Gutenburg Project publishes "plain text". That's another > > problem, because "plain text" means UTF-8and that m

IDLE: clearing the screen

2024-06-04 Thread Cave Man via Python-list
Hello everyone, I am new to Python, and I have been using IDLE (v3.10.11) to run small Python code. However, I have seen that the output scrolls to the bottom in the output window. Is there a way to clear the output window (something like cls in command prompt or clear in terminal), so that

Re: From JoyceUlysses.txt -- words occurring exactly once

2024-06-04 Thread Grant Edwards via Python-list
On 2024-06-04, Edward Teach via Python-list wrote: > On Mon, 03 Jun 2024 14:58:26 -0400 (EDT) > Grant Edwards wrote: > >> On 2024-06-03, Edward Teach via Python-list >> wrote: >> >> > The Gutenburg Project publishes "plain text". That's ano

RE: From JoyceUlysses.txt -- words occurring exactly once

2024-06-04 Thread AVI GROSS via Python-list
have no idea. I can be very sure they are way more costly than the simpler ones you can write that just know enough about what English words in ASCII look like and perhaps get it wrong on some edge cases. -Original Message- From: Python-list On Behalf Of Edward Teach via Python-list S

Fwd: IDLE: clearing the screen

2024-06-04 Thread Rob Cliffe via Python-list
esult.  So without the "x=" you get an extra line at the top of the screen containing "0".) I am sure that some jiggery-pokery could be used so you don't have to type the "()".  But that's more advanced ... Best wishes Rob Cliffe On 04/06/2024 14:3

Re: From JoyceUlysses.txt -- words occurring exactly once

2024-06-04 Thread Chris Angelico via Python-list
On Wed, 5 Jun 2024 at 02:49, Edward Teach via Python-list wrote: > > On Mon, 03 Jun 2024 14:58:26 -0400 (EDT) > Grant Edwards wrote: > > > On 2024-06-03, Edward Teach via Python-list > > wrote: > > > > > The Gutenburg Project publishes "plain text&quo

Re: Fwd: IDLE: clearing the screen

2024-06-04 Thread Cameron Simpson via Python-list
On 04Jun2024 22:43, Rob Cliffe wrote: import os def cls(): x=os.system("cls") Now whenever you type cls() it will clear the screen and show the prompt at the top of the screen. (The reason for the "x=" is: os.system returns a result, in this case 0.  When you evaluate an expression in the IDE

Re: From JoyceUlysses.txt -- words occurring exactly once

2024-06-05 Thread Grant Edwards via Python-list
On 2024-06-05, dn via Python-list wrote: > If you/your teacher can't define a "word", the code, any code, will > almost-certainly be wrong! Back when I was a student... When there was a homework/project assignemnt with a vague requirement (and it wasn't practi

Re: Fwd: IDLE: clearing the screen

2024-06-05 Thread Rob Cliffe via Python-list
On 05/06/2024 04:09, Cameron Simpson wrote: On 04Jun2024 22:43, Rob Cliffe wrote: import os def cls(): x=os.system("cls") Now whenever you type cls() it will clear the screen and show the prompt at the top of the screen. (The reason for the "x=" is: os.system returns a result, in this case

Re: From JoyceUlysses.txt -- words occurring exactly once

2024-06-06 Thread Thomas Passin via Python-list
On 6/5/2024 12:33 AM, dn via Python-list wrote: On 31/05/24 14:26, HenHanna via Python-list wrote: On 5/30/2024 2:18 PM, dn wrote: On 31/05/24 08:03, HenHanna via Python-list wrote: Given a text file of a novel (JoyceUlysses.txt) ... could someone give me a pretty fast (and simple) Python

[RELEASE] Python 3.13.0 beta 2 released.

2024-06-06 Thread Thomas Wouters via Python-list
After a little bit of a delay (I blame the flat tire on my rental car), 3.13.0b2 is released: https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-3130b2/

[RELEASE] Python 3.12.4 released

2024-06-06 Thread Thomas Wouters via Python-list
Last minute bugs in test environments notwithstanding, 3.12.4 is now available! https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-3124/

Re: From JoyceUlysses.txt -- words occurring exactly once

2024-06-08 Thread Mats Wichmann via Python-list
On 6/5/24 05:10, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote: Of course, we see this lack of clarity all the time in questions to the list.  I often wonder how these askers can possibly come up with acceptable code if they don't realize they don't truly know what it's supposed to do

Re: From JoyceUlysses.txt -- words occurring exactly once

2024-06-08 Thread Larry Martell via Python-list
On Sat, Jun 8, 2024 at 10:39 AM Mats Wichmann via Python-list < [email protected]> wrote: > On 6/5/24 05:10, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote: > > > Of course, we see this lack of clarity all the time in questions to the > > list. I often wonder how these askers c

Re: From JoyceUlysses.txt -- words occurring exactly once

2024-06-08 Thread Thomas Passin via Python-list
On 6/8/2024 11:54 AM, Larry Martell via Python-list wrote: On Sat, Jun 8, 2024 at 10:39 AM Mats Wichmann via Python-list < [email protected]> wrote: On 6/5/24 05:10, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote: Of course, we see this lack of clarity all the time in questions to the li

RE: From JoyceUlysses.txt -- words occurring exactly once

2024-06-08 Thread AVI GROSS via Python-list
it on some project they consider similar. That can be a good thing but often a mess as you wrote the code to do things in a specific way for a specific purpose ... -Original Message- From: Python-list On Behalf Of Thomas Passin via Python-list Sent: Saturday, June 8, 2024 1:10 PM To: p

Re: IDLE: clearing the screen

2024-06-08 Thread Rob Cliffe via Python-list
OK, here is the advanced version: import os class _cls(object):     def __repr__(self):         os.system('cls')         return '' cls = _cls() Now when you type cls it clears the screen.  The only flaw is that there is a blank line at the very top of the screen, and the ">>>" prompt appears on

Re: From JoyceUlysses.txt -- words occurring exactly once

2024-06-08 Thread Thomas Passin via Python-list
good thing but often a mess as you wrote the code to do things in a specific way for a specific purpose ... -Original Message----- From: Python-list On Behalf Of Thomas Passin via Python-list Sent: Saturday, June 8, 2024 1:10 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: From JoyceUlysses.tx

RE: From JoyceUlysses.txt -- words occurring exactly once

2024-06-08 Thread AVI GROSS via Python-list
provide such functionality. -Original Message- From: Python-list On Behalf Of Larry Martell via Python-list Sent: Saturday, June 8, 2024 11:54 AM To: Mats Wichmann Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: From JoyceUlysses.txt -- words occurring exactly once On Sat, Jun 8, 2024 at 10

Re: From JoyceUlysses.txt -- words occurring exactly once

2024-06-08 Thread Grant Edwards via Python-list
On 2024-06-08, Larry Martell via Python-list wrote: > The original question struck me as homework or an interview question for a > junior position. But having no clear requirements or specifications is good > training for the real world where that is often the case. When you question &g

Re: IDLE: clearing the screen

2024-06-09 Thread Alan Gauld via Python-list
On 08/06/2024 20:18, Rob Cliffe via Python-list wrote: > OK, here is the advanced version: > import os > class _cls(object): >     def __repr__(self): >         os.system('cls') >         return '' > cls = _cls() > > Now when you type > cls &g

RE: in Python? -- Chunk -- (ChunkC '(a a b b b)), ==> ((a 2) (b 3))

2024-06-09 Thread AVI GROSS via Python-list
would be trivial, perhaps leveraging the above. -Original Message- From: Python-list On Behalf Of HenHanna via Python-list Sent: Sunday, June 9, 2024 5:20 PM To: [email protected] Subject: in Python? -- Chunk -- (ChunkC '(a a b b b)), ==> ((a 2) (b 3)) Chunk, ChunkC -- nice si

RE: in Python? -- Chunk -- (ChunkC '(a a b b b)), ==> ((a 2) (b 3))

2024-06-09 Thread AVI GROSS via Python-list
would ask questions more clearly and perhaps explain what language they are showing us code from and so on. Life is too short to waste. -Original Message- From: Python-list On Behalf Of HenHanna via Python-list Sent: Sunday, June 9, 2024 5:20 PM To: [email protected] Subject: in Python

RE: in Python? -- Chunk -- (ChunkC '(a a b b b)), ==> ((a 2) (b 3))

2024-06-10 Thread AVI GROSS via Python-list
ult properly, since it is an iterator, you need to either be calling it iteratively, or do something like: Result = list(chunk(something)) To force it to run to completion. -Original Message- From: Python-list On Behalf Of HenHanna via Python-list Sent: Sunday, June 9, 2024 10:37 P

Re: in Python? -- Chunk -- (ChunkC '(a a b b b)), ==> ((a 2) (b 3))

2024-06-11 Thread Rob Cliffe via Python-list
## Program output: ['aaa', 'bb', '', 'aa'] [('a', 3), ('b', 2), ('c', 4), ('a', 2)] Rob Cliffe On 09/06/2024 22:20, HenHanna via Python-list wrote: Chunk, ChunkC -- nice simple way(s) to write these in Python? (Ch

RE: in Python? -- Chunk -- (ChunkC '(a a b b b)), ==> ((a 2) (b 3))

2024-06-11 Thread AVI GROSS via Python-list
#x27;, 'c', 'c'], ['singleton']] >>> chunkC([1, 2, 2, 'c', 'c', 'c', 'singleton']) [[1, 1], [2, 2], ['c', 3], ['singleton', 1]] # COMMENTS The current version has flaws I have not bothered correcting. Jus

Couldn't install numpy on Python 2.7

2024-06-12 Thread marc nicole via Python-list
I am trying to install numpy library on Python 2.7.15 in PyCharm but the error message I get is: ERROR: Could not find a version that satisfies the requirement numpy (from > versions: none) > ERROR: No matching distribution found for numpy > c:\python27\lib\site-packages\pip\_vendor\urllib3\util\s

Re: Couldn't install numpy on Python 2.7

2024-06-12 Thread Chris Angelico via Python-list
On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 at 21:32, marc nicole via Python-list wrote: > > I am trying to install numpy library on Python 2.7.15 in PyCharm but the > error message I get is: > > You can upgrade to a newer version of Python to solve this. The answer is right there in the error m

RE: Couldn't install numpy on Python 2.7

2024-06-12 Thread AVI GROSS via Python-list
... -Original Message- From: Python-list On Behalf Of Gordinator via Python-list Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2024 10:19 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Couldn't install numpy on Python 2.7 On 12/06/2024 12:30, marc nicole wrote: > I am trying to install numpy library o

RE: Couldn't install numpy on Python 2.7

2024-06-12 Thread AVI GROSS via Python-list
lf Of MRAB via Python-list Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2024 12:56 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Couldn't install numpy on Python 2.7 On 2024-06-12 17:31, AVI GROSS via Python-list wrote: > I am sure there is inertia to move from an older product and some people > need a reason

Re: Couldn't install numpy on Python 2.7

2024-06-12 Thread Chris Angelico via Python-list
On Thu, 13 Jun 2024 at 03:41, AVI GROSS via Python-list wrote: > > Change is hard even when it may be necessary. > > The argument often is about whether some things are necessary or not. > > Python made a decision but clearly not a unanimous one. What decision? To not release a

Re: Couldn't install numpy on Python 2.7

2024-06-12 Thread Thomas Passin via Python-list
On 6/12/2024 1:59 PM, Chris Angelico via Python-list wrote: On Thu, 13 Jun 2024 at 03:41, AVI GROSS via Python-list wrote: Change is hard even when it may be necessary. The argument often is about whether some things are necessary or not. Python made a decision but clearly not a unanimous

Re: Couldn't install numpy on Python 2.7

2024-06-12 Thread Chris Angelico via Python-list
On Thu, 13 Jun 2024 at 06:55, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote: > The project cannot move to a Python-3 compatible version because Jython > 3.xx doesn't exist and may never exist. The saving grace is that my > project doesn't have to use packages like numpy, scipy, and so

RE: Couldn't install numpy on Python 2.7

2024-06-12 Thread AVI GROSS via Python-list
, continuing with python 2 will likely cause ever more such headaches if you want the latest and greatest of things like numpy. -Original Message- From: Python-list On Behalf Of Chris Angelico via Python-list Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2024 2:00 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re

Re: Couldn't install numpy on Python 2.7

2024-06-12 Thread Chris Angelico via Python-list
On Thu, 13 Jun 2024 at 07:36, wrote: > But if the goal was to deprecate python 2 and in some sense phase it out, it > is perhaps not working well for some. Frankly, issuing so many updates like > 2.7 and including backporting of new features has helped make it possible to > delay any upgrade. The

Re: Couldn't install numpy on Python 2.7

2024-06-12 Thread Oscar Benjamin via Python-list
On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 at 22:38, AVI GROSS via Python-list wrote: > > The discussion though was about a specific OP asking if they can fix their > problem. One solution being suggested is to fix a deeper problem and simply > make their code work with a recent version of python 3. Th

Re: Couldn't install numpy on Python 2.7

2024-06-12 Thread Chris Angelico via Python-list
On Thu, 13 Jun 2024 at 07:57, Oscar Benjamin via Python-list wrote: > They are seeing a warning that explicitly says "You can upgrade to a > newer version of Python to solve this". I don't know whether that SSL > warning is directly connected to pip not finding any vers

Re: Couldn't install numpy on Python 2.7

2024-06-12 Thread Oscar Benjamin via Python-list
On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 at 23:11, Chris Angelico via Python-list wrote: > > On Thu, 13 Jun 2024 at 07:57, Oscar Benjamin via Python-list > wrote: > > They are seeing a warning that explicitly says "You can upgrade to a > > newer version of Python to solve this"

Re: Couldn't install numpy on Python 2.7

2024-06-12 Thread Greg Ewing via Python-list
On 13/06/24 4:31 am, [email protected] wrote: It seems Microsoft is having a problem where something lik 2/3 of Windows users have not upgraded from Windows 10 after many years At least Python 3 is a clear improvement over Python 2 in many ways. Whereas the only thing Microsoft seems to hav

Re: Couldn't install numpy on Python 2.7

2024-06-12 Thread Chris Angelico via Python-list
On Thu, 13 Jun 2024 at 08:46, Oscar Benjamin via Python-list wrote: > I don't know much about SSL and related networking things especially > on Windows. I would be surprised if pip on old Python can't install > from current PyPI though. I imagine that something strange has &g

Re: Couldn't install numpy on Python 2.7

2024-06-12 Thread Oscar Benjamin via Python-list
On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 at 23:52, Greg Ewing via Python-list wrote: > On 13/06/24 10:09 am, Chris Angelico wrote: > > So if anyone > > actually does need to use pip with Python 2.7, they probably need to > > set up a local server > > You should also be able to download

RE: Couldn't install numpy on Python 2.7

2024-06-12 Thread AVI GROSS via Python-list
anyone interested in keeping them up to date. You as a user, take your chances. -Original Message- From: Python-list On Behalf Of Chris Angelico via Python-list Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2024 5:52 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Couldn't install numpy on Python 2.7 On Thu, 13

Re: Couldn't install numpy on Python 2.7

2024-06-12 Thread Chris Angelico via Python-list
On Thu, 13 Jun 2024 at 09:20, wrote: > My point was that version 4 COULD HAPPEN one day and I meant INCOMPATIBLE > version not 4. Obviously we can make a version 4 that is not incompatible > too. This is still FUD. Back your words with something, or stop trying to imply that there's another incom

RE: Couldn't install numpy on Python 2.7

2024-06-12 Thread AVI GROSS via Python-list
, or just a speculation in a discussion. Either way, I am taking any further discussion along these lines offline and will not continue here. -Original Message- From: Python-list On Behalf Of Chris Angelico via Python-list Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2024 7:23 PM To: [email protected]

Re: Couldn't install numpy on Python 2.7

2024-06-12 Thread Chris Angelico via Python-list
On Thu, 13 Jun 2024 at 10:58, wrote: > > Chris, > > You seem to have perceived an insult that I remain unaware of. If you're not aware that you're saying this, then don't say it. > I looked up FUD and sharply disagree with suggestions I am trying to somehow > cause Fear, Uncertainty or Doubt. I

Suggested python feature: allowing except in context maneger

2024-06-13 Thread Yair Eshel via Python-list
Hello. I read this is a good place to give some suggestions for features in python. If not, please let me know. This is an example of a code I normally use in my everyday work: import logging try: with open('sample_data/READM.md') as f: print (len(f.read())) except FileNotFoundError: loggi

Re: Couldn't install numpy on Python 2.7

2024-06-13 Thread Chris Green via Python-list
Chris Angelico wrote: > On Thu, 13 Jun 2024 at 10:58, wrote: > > > > Chris, > > > > You seem to have perceived an insult that I remain unaware of. > > If you're not aware that you're saying this, then don't say it. > Er, um, that really makes no sense! :-) How can one not say something that on

Re: in Python: (101 102 103 201 202 203 301 302 303 401 402 403 )

2024-06-13 Thread Phil Carmody via Python-list
Paul Rubin writes: > HenHanna writes: >> is there another (simple) way to write this? > > Yes, but please consider doing these easy exercises yourself instead of > fobbing them onto other people. Hen's probably just an experimental GPT. You, with your limited resources, can never train it. I'd

Re: Suggested python feature: allowing except in context maneger

2024-06-13 Thread Barry Scott via Python-list
> On 13 Jun 2024, at 11:01, Yair Eshel via Python-list > wrote: > > I read this is a good place to give some suggestions for features in > python. Best place these days is to raise an idea on https://discuss.python.org/ Beware that this idea has come up in the past and was r

Re: Couldn't install numpy on Python 2.7

2024-06-13 Thread Ethan Furman via Python-list
Hey, everyone! I believe the original question has been answered, and tempers seem to be flaring in sub-threads, so let's call this thread done and move on to other interesting topics. Thank you for your support! -- ~Ethan~ Moderator -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Suggested python feature: allowing except in context maneger

2024-06-13 Thread Dieter Maurer via Python-list
Yair Eshel wrote at 2024-6-13 13:01 +0300: > ... >I would like to suggest an alternative syntax, that will, in a sense, apply >the best of both worlds: > >import logging >with open('sample_data/README.md') as f: > print (len(f.read())) >except FileNotFoundError: > logging.error("File not") Are y

Re: Suggested python feature: allowing except in context maneger

2024-06-13 Thread Cameron Simpson via Python-list
On 13Jun2024 19:44, [email protected] wrote: Why not use: ``` try: with open()... ... except FileNotFoundError: ... ``` This is exactly what the OP was expressing dissatisfaction with. I'm -1 on the idea myself - not every combination of things needs additional syntactic support,

Re: Suggested python feature: allowing except in context maneger

2024-06-13 Thread Yair Eshel via Python-list
Cameron, I'm not really sure I got your point. I've used the "file not found" exception as an example for a behavior typical on context managers. This could be a failure to connect to DB, or threads. It also applies to any kind of possible exception, whether cased by the context manager itself or t

Anonymous email users

2024-06-14 Thread AVI GROSS via Python-list
I notice that in some recent discussions, we have users who cannot be replied to directly as their email addresses are not valid ones, and I believe on purpose. Examples in the thread I was going to reply to are: [email protected]

Re: Anonymous email users

2024-06-14 Thread Chris Angelico via Python-list
On Sat, 15 Jun 2024 at 08:32, dn via Python-list wrote: > These mailing-lists all run under the Python Code of Conduct. > The newsgroup, however, is not. Which means that anyone who posts on the newsgroup is subject to no such restrictions - and that might explain the, shall we say,

Re: Anonymous email users

2024-06-14 Thread Cameron Simpson via Python-list
On 14Jun2024 18:00, [email protected] wrote: I notice that in some recent discussions, we have users who cannot be replied to directly as their email addresses are not valid ones, and I believe on purpose. Examples in the thread I was going to reply to are: henh

Re: Suggested python feature: allowing except in context maneger

2024-06-14 Thread Cameron Simpson via Python-list
On 14Jun2024 09:07, Yair Eshel wrote: Cameron, I'm not really sure I got your point. I've used the "file not found" exception as an example for a behavior typical on context managers. This could be a failure to connect to DB, or threads. It also applies to any kind of possible exception, whether

Re: Anonymous email users

2024-06-17 Thread Marco Moock via Python-list
On 15.06.2024 um 10:30 Uhr dn wrote: > These mailing-lists all run under the Python Code of Conduct. > > This also effects a conundrum. Firstly, that someone abusing others > (for example) shall be held responsible. Secondly, that in order to > hold someone responsible, he/she/... must be identif

RE: Anonymous email users

2024-06-17 Thread AVI GROSS via Python-list
seems the discussions with people in the email list are more useful to me. -Original Message- From: Python-list On Behalf Of Marco Moock via Python-list Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2024 2:03 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Anonymous email users On 15.06.2024 um 10:30 Uhr dn wrote

Re: Anonymous email users

2024-06-17 Thread Roel Schroeven via Python-list
AVI GROSS via Python-list schreef op 17/06/2024 om 17:03: I simply am thinking that people who do not allow me to easily reply to them directly, should be ignored by me and not get my cooperation that way. FWIW, personally I (mostly) don't see the point of replying to people personally. To

win32clipboard writing to clipboard on Windows 11

2024-06-17 Thread Rob Cliffe via Python-list
Recently I acquired a new laptop running WIndows 11; my previous one uses WIndows 10.  I encountered a strange problem: I am using the win32clipboard backage (part of pywin32), and when I use SetClipboardData() to write text which consists ***entirely of digits*** to the clipboard, I either get

Re: Anonymous email users

2024-06-17 Thread Grant Edwards via Python-list
On 2024-06-17, Roel Schroeven via Python-list wrote: > FWIW, personally I (mostly) don't see the point of replying to people > personally. To me a public mailing list is much like any public forum, > where my expectation is that conversations happen in public. To me it > a

RE: Anonymous email users

2024-06-17 Thread AVI GROSS via Python-list
h the group and I would not have received some chances to learn if I could not ask questions in private that clearly did not fit the purpose of the group. So, I am outa this conversation IN PUBLIC. LOL! -Original Message- From: Python-list On Behalf Of Grant Edwards via Python-list Sent:

Re: win32clipboard writing to clipboard on Windows 11

2024-06-17 Thread Thomas Passin via Python-list
On 6/17/2024 9:30 PM, MRAB via Python-list wrote: On 2024-06-17 20:27, Rob Cliffe via Python-list wrote: Recently I acquired a new laptop running WIndows 11; my previous one uses WIndows 10.  I encountered a strange problem: I am using the win32clipboard backage (part of pywin32), and when I

Re: win32clipboard writing to clipboard on Windows 11

2024-06-18 Thread Eryk Sun via Python-list
On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 8:36 PM MRAB via Python-list wrote: > On 2024-06-17 20:27, Rob Cliffe via Python-list wrote: > > > SetClipboardData(CF_UNICODETEXT, "0") > > CloseClipboard() win32clipboard.SetClipboardData() first tries to covert the second argument as an int

Re: win32clipboard writing to clipboard on Windows 11

2024-06-18 Thread Eryk Sun via Python-list
On Tue, Jun 18, 2024 at 2:19 AM Eryk Sun wrote: > > > def set_clipboard_text(text): > hMem = global_alloc_text(text) > try: > win32clipboard.SetClipboardData(win32clipboard.CF_UNICODETEXT, > hMem) > # Now the s

Re: Anonymous email users

2024-06-18 Thread Mats Wichmann via Python-list
On 6/17/24 17:51, dn via Python-list wrote: +1 The "public" part is not to embarrass posters, but recognition that there are likely other people 'out there' (or arriving in-future if they care to read the archives) experiencing a similar problem. (hence need for descr

Re: Anonymous email users

2024-06-18 Thread Grant Edwards via Python-list
On 2024-06-18, Mats Wichmann via Python-list wrote: > On 6/17/24 17:51, dn via Python-list wrote: > >> +1 >> >> The "public" part is not to embarrass posters, but recognition that >> there are likely other people 'out there' (or arrivi

Re: Timezone in HH:MM Format

2024-06-18 Thread Jon Ribbens via Python-list
On 2024-06-18, Ivan "Rambius" Ivanov wrote: > Hello, > > How can I convert a date, usually datetime.now(), into a format where > the timezone is in hours:minutes format. I was able to get that format > in shell: > > $ date +%Y-%m-%dT%H:%M:%S%:z > 2024-06-18T19:24:09-04:00 > > The closest I got in

Decoding bytes to text strings in Python 2

2024-06-21 Thread Rayner Lucas via Python-list
I'm curious about something I've encountered while updating a very old Tk app (originally written in Python 1, but I've ported it to Python 2 as a first step towards getting it running on modern systems). The app downloads emails from a POP server and displays them. At the moment, the code is

Re: Decoding bytes to text strings in Python 2

2024-06-21 Thread Chris Angelico via Python-list
On Sat, 22 Jun 2024 at 03:28, Rayner Lucas via Python-list wrote: > I'm curious about something I've encountered while updating a very old > Tk app (originally written in Python 1, but I've ported it to Python 2 > as a first step towards getting it running on modern

Re: [Tutor] How to go about a simple object grabbing in python (given coordinates of arms and objects)

2024-06-22 Thread marc nicole via Python-list
My code is just an attempt at the task, it is not exact as what relates to the coordinates (e.g., doesn't account for the size of the object. I would like to have a idea on the general approach to such problems (even a pseudo code would do) "Get the hands rapidly enough in the vicinity and then do

Re: Decoding bytes to text strings in Python 2

2024-06-23 Thread Rayner Lucas via Python-list
In article , [email protected] says... > > If you switch to a Linux system, it should work correctly, and you'll > be able to migrate the rest of the way onto Python 3. Once you achieve > that, you'll be able to operate on Windows or Linux equivalently, > since Python 3 solved this problem. At lea

How to go about a simple object grabbing in python (given coordinates of arms and objects)

2024-06-23 Thread marc nicole via Python-list
Hello to all of this magnificent community! I have this problem I had already spent a few days on and still can't figure out a proper solution. So, given the x,y,z coordinates of a target object and the offset x,y,z of arms of a robot, what is a good algorithm to perform to grab the object betwee

Re: Decoding bytes to text strings in Python 2

2024-06-23 Thread Rayner Lucas via Python-list
In article , [email protected] berlin.de says... > > I didn't really do a super thorough deep dive on this, > but I'm just giving the initial impression without > actually being familiar with Tkinter under Python 2, > so I might be wrong! > > The Text widget typically expects text in Tcl

Re: Anonymous email users

2024-06-23 Thread Sebastian Wells via Python-list
On Fri, 14 Jun 2024 18:00:37 -0400, avi.e.gross wrote: > I notice that in some recent discussions, we have users who cannot be > replied to directly as their email addresses are not valid ones, and I > believe on purpose. Examples in the thread I was going to reply to are: > >

Re: Decoding bytes to text strings in Python 2

2024-06-23 Thread Chris Angelico via Python-list
On Mon, 24 Jun 2024 at 08:20, Rayner Lucas via Python-list wrote: > > In article , > [email protected] says... > > > > If you switch to a Linux system, it should work correctly, and you'll > > be able to migrate the rest of the way onto Python 3. Once you ach

Re: Decoding bytes to text strings in Python 2

2024-06-23 Thread Chris Angelico via Python-list
On Mon, 24 Jun 2024 at 10:18, MRAB via Python-list wrote: > Tkinter in recent versions of Python can handle astral characters, at > least back to Python 3.8, the oldest I have on my Windows PC. Good to know, thanks! I was hoping that would be the case, but I don't have a Windows syst

Re: [Tutor] How to go about a simple object grabbing in python (given coordinates of arms and objects)

2024-06-24 Thread marc nicole via Python-list
What are the parameters to account for in this type of algorithm? are there some checks to perform the arm moves ? for example angle moves or cartesian moves based on some distance thresholds? Any idea about the pseudo-algorithm is welcome. Thanks. Le dim. 23 juin 2024 à 10:33, Alan Gauld via Tut

Re: Anonymous email users

2024-06-24 Thread Barry Scott via Python-list
> On 23 Jun 2024, at 06:58, Sebastian Wells via Python-list > wrote: > > The spammers won the spam wars, so even if you have someone's real > e-mail address, that's no guarantee that you can contact them. You > certainly wouldn't be able to contact me at my

Re: Anonymous email users

2024-06-24 Thread Thomas Passin via Python-list
On 6/24/2024 5:51 AM, Barry Scott via Python-list wrote: On 23 Jun 2024, at 06:58, Sebastian Wells via Python-list wrote: The spammers won the spam wars, so even if you have someone's real e-mail address, that's no guarantee that you can contact them. You certainly wouldn&#x

RE: [Tutor] How to go about a simple object grabbing in python (given coordinates of arms and objects)

2024-06-24 Thread AVI GROSS via Python-list
. Good Luck. -Original Message- From: Python-list On Behalf Of marc nicole via Python-list Sent: Monday, June 24, 2024 5:24 AM To: Alan Gauld ; [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [Tutor] How to go about a simple object grabbing in python (given coordinates of arms and o

Re: Anonymous email users

2024-06-24 Thread Chris Angelico via Python-list
On Tue, 25 Jun 2024 at 08:31, dn via Python-list wrote: > Python mailing-lists are covered by the Code of Conduct and monitored by > ListAdmins. Thus, there are controls which limit the impact which > advertisers and others with non-pythonic aims might otherwise exert! > So long

Re: Anonymous email users

2024-06-24 Thread Grant Edwards via Python-list
On 2024-06-24, Barry Scott via Python-list wrote: >> On 23 Jun 2024, at 06:58, Sebastian Wells via Python-list >> wrote: >> >> The spammers won the spam wars, so even if you have someone's real >> e-mail address, that's no guarantee that you can contact

Re: Anonymous email users

2024-06-24 Thread Chris Angelico via Python-list
On Tue, 25 Jun 2024 at 11:41, Grant Edwards via Python-list wrote: > I've been using the same e-mail address for about 20 years. I've use > that e-mail address with probably close to 100 retailers, charities, > open-source projects, media sites, and various other organization

RE: Anonymous email users

2024-06-24 Thread AVI GROSS via Python-list
ginal Message- From: Python-list On Behalf Of Chris Angelico via Python-list Sent: Monday, June 24, 2024 9:49 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Anonymous email users On Tue, 25 Jun 2024 at 11:41, Grant Edwards via Python-list wrote: > I've been using the same e-mail address for abo

Re: Anonymous email users

2024-06-25 Thread Anton Shepelev via Python-list
Sebastian Wells: > The spammers won the spam wars, so even if you have > someone's real e-mail address, that's no guarantee that > you can contact them. No so with me. My e-mail address here is munged, but in a very obvious way, and no, my mailbox is not overwhelmed with spam. I make a habit of

Re: Anonymous email users

2024-06-25 Thread Anton Shepelev via Python-list
Chris Angelico to dn: > > Python mailing-lists are covered by the Code of Conduct > > and monitored by ListAdmins. Thus, there are controls > > which limit the impact which advertisers and others with > > non-pythonic aims might otherwise exert! > > So long as there's a newsgroup gateway, those co

Re: Anonymous email users

2024-06-25 Thread Chris Angelico via Python-list
On Wed, 26 Jun 2024 at 03:40, Anton Shepelev via Python-list wrote: > > Chris Angelico to dn: > > > > Python mailing-lists are covered by the Code of Conduct > > > and monitored by ListAdmins. Thus, there are controls > > > which limit the impact which a

How to install tensorflow on Python 2.7 in Windows?

2024-06-26 Thread marc nicole via Python-list
Browsing the available version of tensorflow for the dates before January 2021 (date when Python 2.7 stopped being supported) I can't find a tensorflow version for Python 2.7 that works under Windows. The reference site I use is https://pypi.org/project/tensorflow/ Anybody can point out a compati

Re: [Tutor] How to install tensorflow on Python 2.7 in Windows?

2024-06-26 Thread Mats Wichmann via Python-list
On 6/26/24 09:29, marc nicole wrote: Browsing the available version of tensorflow for the dates before January 2021 (date when Python 2.7 stopped being supported) I can't find a tensorflow version for Python 2.7 that works under Windows. The reference site I use is https://pypi.org/project/tenso

[RELEASE] Python 3.13.0 beta 3 released.

2024-06-27 Thread Thomas Wouters via Python-list
The *next to last* Python 3.13 beta version, beta 3, is now released: https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-3130b3/ *This is a beta preview of Python 3.13* Python 3.13 is still in development. This release, 3.13.0b3, is the third of four beta release previews of 3.13. Beta release prev

Difference method vs attribut = function

2024-06-29 Thread Ulrich Goebel via Python-list
Hi, a class can have methods, and it can have attributes, which can hold a function. Both is well known, of course. My question: Is there any difference? The code snipped shows that both do what they should do. But __dict__ includes just the method, while dir detects the method and the attribu

Re: Difference method vs attribut = function

2024-06-29 Thread Mats Wichmann via Python-list
On 6/28/24 10:08, Ulrich Goebel via Python-list wrote: By the way: in my usecase I want to pass different functions to different instances of MyClass. It is in the context of a database app where I build Getters for database data and pass one Getter per instance. If I understood what you&#x

Re: Difference method vs attribut = function

2024-06-29 Thread Thomas Passin via Python-list
On 6/28/2024 12:08 PM, Ulrich Goebel via Python-list wrote: Hi, a class can have methods, and it can have attributes, which can hold a function. Both is well known, of course. My question: Is there any difference? The code snipped shows that both do what they should do. But __dict__ includes

Re: Difference method vs attribut = function

2024-06-30 Thread Dieter Maurer via Python-list
Ulrich Goebel wrote at 2024-6-28 18:08 +0200: >Hi, > >a class can have methods, and it can have attributes, which can hold a >function. Both is well known, of course. > >My question: Is there any difference? I think you should make the distinction "class versus instance attribute" rather than "me

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