[issue15795] Zipfile.extractall does not preserve file permissions

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On second thought, maybe no fix should be backported.
Changing behaviour silently might break things, changing with a new option puts 
the change in a grey fix/enhancement area, so maybe better to let current 
versions as they are, with the bug/limitation noted in the documentation, and 
give control in 3.11 only.

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[issue15795] Zipfile.extractall does not preserve file permissions

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[issue15795] Zipfile.extractall does not preserve file permissions

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The new PR uses new constants*, so could not be backported as is (see my 
previous message).


(*side question: should the constants use an enum?)

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[issue46614] Add option to output UTC datetimes as "Z" in `.isoformat()`

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Bad idea: pass `zulu=True`

It is short, memorable if you know about it, otherwise obscure enough to push 
people to read the docs and be clear about what it does.

Also strange and far from obvious, so a bad idea.  Unless… ?

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[issue46337] urllib.parse: Allow more flexibility in schemes and URL resolution behavior

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I would like to know what Senthil is thinking before the PR with options à la 
carte are merged!

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[issue46126] Unittest output drives developers to avoid docstrings

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I think the situation and the discussion should be summarized on python-dev!

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[issue46846] functools.partial objects should set __signature__ and _annotations__

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[issue46847] functools.update_wrapper doesn't understand partial objects and annotations

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[issue46833] Windows installer is unclear and has redundant settings

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[issue46855] printing a string with strange characters loops forever

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Note that the original issue seems to be that you had bytes but pasted it as a 
unicode string.  This works:

>>> b = b'Betrag gr\xc3\xb6\xc3\x9fer als Betrag der Original-Transaktion'
>>> s = b.decode('utf-8')
>>> print(s)
Betrag größer als Betrag der Original-Transaktion

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[issue26175] Fully implement IOBase abstract on SpooledTemporaryFile

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I believe the PR is in good shape.
Can someone with expertise in tempfile review it?

It would also be useful if the people who had a bug could test the new code.

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[issue46782] Docs error for 3.10

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Octal 777 is really the same as decimal 511.
If you are calling mkdir and looking at the permissions on the created 
directory, you may think the mode is wrong because of umask (default permission 
bitmask that’s applied to the mode).  But the numbers are really equivalent, we 
are only talking about a doc presentation issue here, not any problem in code.

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[issue46736] Generate HTML 5 with SimpleHTTPRequestHandler.list_directory

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Would you like to make a pull request?

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[issue46436] Pass the -d/--directory command-line option to http.server.CGIHTTPRequestHandler

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Thanks again!

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[issue46733] pathlib.Path methods can raise NotImplementedError

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[issue46700] wrong nomenclature (options vs. arguments) in argparse

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I’m afraid this is a basic decision of argparse, and one of its reasons for 
existing as an rework of optparse.

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[issue46646] `address` arg can be `bytes` for `ip_*` functions in `ipaddress` module

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Can you dig more to find if the problem is in the code or in the doc?
The PEP to add ipaddress should specify this.

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[issue22852] urllib.parse wrongly strips empty #fragment, ?query, //netloc

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See also #46337

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[issue46337] urllib.parse: Allow more flexibility in schemes and URL resolution behavior

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In my idea it would not be a list of things that you have to pass piecemeal to 
request specific behaviour, but another function or a new param (like 
`parse(string, universal=True)`) that implements universal parsing.

We could even handle things like #22852 in that mode (although ironically, 
correct behaviour for that requires having a registry of schemes).

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[issue27777] cgi.FieldStorage can't parse simple body with Content-Length and no Content-Disposition

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Both active PRs have comments pointing out issues, that’s why this is still 
open.  A clean fix with unit tests and no regression is needed.

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[issue46337] urllib.parse: Allow more flexibility in schemes and URL resolution behavior

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I remember a discussion about this years ago.
urllib is a module that pre-dates the idea of universal parsing for URIs, where 
the delimiters (like ://) are enough to determine the parts of a URI and give 
them meaning (host, port, user, path, etc).
Backward compat for urllib is always a concern; someone said at the time that 
it could be good to have a new module for modern, generic parsing, but that 
hasn’t happened.  Maybe a new parse function, or new parameter to the existing 
one, could be easier to add.

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[issue46586] In documentation contents enum.property erroneously links to built-in property

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Thinking about it again: The issue is that these tables (for sys.float_info and 
other named tuples / structseqs) use the const role, which is not meant to 
identify attributes but to link to them (similar to func, mod, data, etc).  In 
other words we are fixing an issue that a wrong target is used, but we should 
not be linking for a target at all, this is the target.  So if we can’t use the 
equivalent of directives function, module, etc (that define the targets of 
func, mod, etc), then maybe they should be just ``name``, not :role:`name`.

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[issue46586] In documentation contents enum.property erroneously links to built-in property

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Yes, I was referring to these two attributes.
They should not link to anything: the place I linked *is* the documentation for 
them.
Other instances of this problem could be listed in this ticket and fixed by the 
same PR (doesn’t matter than enum.property is only for 3.11, the backport PRs 
can be a little different), or tracked in a separate ticket if that seems more 
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[issue46622] Support decorating a coroutine with functools.cached_property

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[issue46614] Add option to output UTC datetimes as "Z" in `.isoformat()`

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Would it be horrible to have the timezone instance control this?

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[issue46586] In documentation contents enum.property erroneously links to built-in property

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The same problem exists for any attribute that has the same name as a builtin, 
see for example https://docs.python.org/3/library/sys.html#sys.float_info

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[issue46586] In documentation contents enum.property erroneously links to built-in property

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Using a substitution is necessary when we need code markup and a link.

For this bug, the simple ~ markup will be enough.

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[issue46587] datetime and time tests use non-portable "%4Y" format

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[issue46586] In documentation contents enum.property erroneously links to built-in property

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Changing the markup to this should fix the link without changing the text:

   :func:`~enum.property`

Would you like to turn this into a pull request?

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[issue46635] unittest.defaultTestLoader.discover fails for namespace packages

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[issue46285] protocol_version in http.server.test can be ignored

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[issue46197] ensurepip bootstrap breaks out of isolated environment

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Thanks for the report and PR.

The workflow would be to merge a fix to the main branch for 3.11, then there’s 
a bot that makes backports for active branches (3.10 and 3.9).

More info: https://devguide.python.org/

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[issue43012] Remove pathlib accessors

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[issue42205] Add image/webp to list of non-standard mimetypes

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[issue42049] Add image/webp to list of media types in mimetypes.py

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[issue38902] image/webp support in mimetypes

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[issue45639] Support webp and avif image formats in mimetypes

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[issue43112] SOABI on Linux does not distinguish between GNU libc and musl libc

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[issue46285] protocol_version in http.server.test can be ignored

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There is no bug with partial itself.  I have tried to explain this and I can’t 
write it in another way.

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[issue46282] return value of builtins is not clearly indicated

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The new title is puzzling; the discussion moved to advertising that all 
functions default to returning None, this is not related to the built-in status.

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[issue46285] protocol_version in http.server.test can be ignored

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[issue46285] protocol_version in http.server.test can be ignored

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I think we have a valid bug, and you correctly attributed it to the use of 
partial!

(No worry about your English — thank you for reporting the problem here!)


To answer your questions:

1) partial:

Imagine we have a function with many parameters:

  def frob(source, target, backup=False): ...

and we want to call it many times without passing backup=True every time; we 
can make a lambda:

  frob_backup = lambda source, target: frob(source, target, backup=True)
  # later in the file
  frob_backup(src1, tgt1)
  frob_backup(src2, tgt2)

or a partial:

  frob_backup = partial(frob, backup=True)
  # then
  frob_backup(src3, tgt3)

As you can see, they both work in the same way.  They are equivalent ways of 
making a shortcut to call a function with some parameters pre-defined.  When 
called, the lambda will call the frob function and return its return value.  
When called, the partial object will call the frob function and return its 
return value.


2) closures:

Closures are variables that are resolved in the parent scope (namespace) of the 
normal scope.
A function (including a function created by a lambda) can have closures.

  def make_callback(backup_default):  
  callback = lambda source, target: frob(source, target, backup_default)
  return callback

Here when callback is called, the backup_default variable is not found in the 
local variables of the callback function, but in the scope of make_callback.  
It will be true or false depending on how make_callback was called.


3) http.server.test

There aren’t any closures in http.server.test; the issue is that HandlerClass 
(defined in the `if name is main` block and passed to `test`) is a proper 
handler class in one case, or a partial object!  So inside test, setting 
attributes on the passed handler class will do nothing if that class is 
actually a partial instance.  When it is called, it will return an instance of 
SimpleHttpRequestHandler, which won’t see the protocol attribute that we wanted.


Conclusion:
- maybe we should pass all parameters to test instead of smuggling through 
params
- setting class attributes seems fishy to me
- cgi handler and regular handler should have the same features (see #46436)

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[issue46436] Pass the -d/--directory command-line option to http.server.CGIHTTPRequestHandler

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The use of partial may cause bugs!

Here is reported that the `protocol` parameter (of the `test` function) is 
ignored because it’s set on the partial object instead of the handler class: 
https://bugs.python.org/issue46285

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[issue46473] importlib.metadata does not honor .egg-link files

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It would make sense if importlib only supported official specs.
For editable/develop installs, it is https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0660/ 
which does not mention egg (not egg-link nor egg-info, long since replaced by 
dist-info).

Are you using latest pip, and pyproject.toml?  I would expect pip to follow the 
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[issue46439] Clarify urllib.request.add_header documentation

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I think the doc assumes that people will expect headers to be added for 
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that’s documented just after would tell it.

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[issue46419] Incomplete Comparison to C++ Methods

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Maybe the reference should be removed entirely!  Nowadays there may be more 
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[issue46455] Deprecate / remove os.name=java

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[issue45959] Teach pprint about dict views

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The PR looks good!  When the last comments are resolved, unless there is 
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[issue43012] Remove pathlib accessors

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PR looks good, just needs a look by a pathlib expert.

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[issue12782] Multiple context expressions do not support parentheses for continuation across lines

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[issue12782] Multiple context expressions do not support parentheses for continuation across lines

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PEP 8 used with statements as an example of use of backslashes, I am proposing 
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[issue46247] in xml.dom.minidom, Node and DocumentLS appear to be missing __slots__

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[issue45729] [doc] "history and license" link has wrong target

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dev docs direct to `/license.html` which redirects to `/3/license.html`

3.9 docs have the same; wouldn’t it be better to have `/3.9/license.html`?

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[issue46142] python --help output is too long

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The PR now has --help-env, --help-xoptions and --help-all !

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[issue46336] Sixth element of tuple from __reduce__(), inconsistency between pickle and copy

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[issue46142] python --help output is too long

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BTW on the PR I am asking for help with string formatting, to print an invalid 
X option (a wchar_t string) using the PyStatus API (needs char).  Help from a 
proper C programmer would be appreciated :)

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[issue46142] python --help output is too long

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> For me, the best CLI is "git help", "git help init", etc.

I don’t think that prior art applies here, as python does not have subcommands. 
 `--help` and `--help-env` are straightforward, `-X help` is a bit unusual but 
at least it’s part of the optional `-X` options, `--help-full` or `-all` would 
be way to preserve the behaviour of printing full usage with one option.

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[issue46285] http/server.py wont respect its protocol_version

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I am a bit confused!

The script you attached is to show a problem, but you’re saying there is no 
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[issue46142] python --help output is too long

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I hard forgotten this bit in the email thread:

Serhiy: What do you think about -hh (and maybe —help-full) printing full help?

Guidp: Is there enough of a use case for this to bother?

Barry: Maybe not.  I’d say if it was easy to implement, why not, but if it’s a 
pain, don't bother.


The option parsing code is easy to edit, and the function would only need to 
call the other usage functions with a blank line inbetween.  Should I add it?

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[issue46285] http/server.py wont respect its protocol_version

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I understand your report better after looking at the code.

There is indeed a protocol_version parameter in the test function (which is 
really a main function, not test), that sets the protocol attribute on the 
passed handler class.  (The class attribute is changed, which seems like a 
bug!)  The BaseHTTPRequestHandler class does have support for HTTP 1.1 (adds 
automatic keep-alive).

So if we ignore the distraction that OP changed the source code, and imaging 
instead that they called `test(protocol="HTTP/1.1")`, then there would be a bug 
if the requests went out as HTTP/1.0.

Hugo, can you attach a minimal reproducer?  (a python script as small as 
possible to show the problem — don’t edit code in http.server but call the 
http.server.test function with your own code)

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[issue46285] http/server.py wont respect its protocol_version

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Hello and thanks for the report!

Could you tell more about what you’re trying to achieve?


Some notes:

You are not meant to change the code of provided modules, but to instantiate 
classes with the right parameters, or subclass in your own code to change how 
some methods work.

Supporting HTTP 1/1 is not just changing the protocol string, but also about 
supporting the actual behaviours defined in the 1.1 spec!

If the module has a parameter for version and it doesn’t work, then you can 
report a bug.  If there is no such parameter, you can open a feature request to 
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[issue46282] print() docs do not indicate its return value

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[issue46279] [docs] Minor information-ordering issue in __main__ doc

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Do you have a suggestion on how to fix this?

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[issue46264] 'I'.lower() should give non dotted i for LANG=tr_TR

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I suppose the casefold method does not help?
https://docs.python.org/3.10/library/stdtypes.html#str.casefold

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[issue46227] add pathlib.Path.walk method

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The idea is interesting, and I agree that glob with a maxi wildcard is not a 
great solution.  There is discussion on the PR about adding walk vs extending 
iterdir; could you post a message on discuss.python.org and sum up the the 
discussion?  (Pull requests on the CPython repo are only used to discuss 
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[issue46142] python --help output is too long

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Victor said on github that he would prefer `--help-xoptions` to `-X help`.  It 
would align with `--help` and `--help-env`, but not with other `-X abc` 
options.  I think that `--help-X` may be better, as it uses the same form (`X`) 
rather than the non-word `xoptions`.

What do people think?

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[issue37330] open(): remove 'U' mode, deprecated since Python 3.3

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> it is useful to build old versions, sometimes 7 year old versions, to confirm 
> if/when the behaviour regressed. 

I think the sticking point is this: it is not expected that old versions should 
work as-is with the newest Python.  Can you do your build and test with the 
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[issue46148] Optimize pathlib

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A note about benchmarks: I think timeit is not the right tool for them, but 
https://github.com/python/pyperformance is

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[issue32642] add support for path-like objects in sys.path

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I’m not an import expert but would have misgivings about having fancy types in 
sys.path too!  It seems so fundamental, and used from C and Python, with a 
simple interface of a direct list (plus importers and finders etc), that I 
would understand it pure strings were required and not Paths (and not all 
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[issue44024] Improve the TypeError message for non-string second arguments passed to the built-in functions getattr and hasattr

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[issue41011] [venv] record which executable and command were used to create a virtual environment

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[issue46228] argparse docs: default for prog= in ArgumentParser() should be basename of argv[0], not argv[0], to match behaviour

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[issue46005] [doc] replace 'distutils' examples with 'setuptools'

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Distutils is deprecated, and core Python docs are not the place to show how to 
use a specific build system (thanks to a lot of work, we now have multiple 
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[issue46196] documentation for cmd library should include columnize() function

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Done, cheers!

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[issue46196] documentation for cmd library should include columnize() function

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New changeset ce4d25f3cd0a1c6e65b64015140fb5e1397c8ac5 by Nikita Sobolev in 
branch 'main':
bpo-46196: document method cmd.Cmd.columnize (#30303)
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/ce4d25f3cd0a1c6e65b64015140fb5e1397c8ac5


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[issue46142] python --help output is too long

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[issue46142] python --help output is too long

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It seems that preconfig is only for some options that change fundamental 
behaviour (isolated mode, default encoding), so I should be able to detect and 
handle '-X help' in initconfig.

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[issue46186] replace `io.IncrementalNewlineDecoder` with non incremental newline decoders

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Can you describe what the problem is?
Is it incorrect in some cases?  Is it inefficient?

Without a statement of the issue, we can’t discuss a solution :)

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[issue46198] Duplicate and unused code in tests

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I think most of these are false positives (it’s fine if 10 different tests 
define a function `f`), so should not be changed just to appease a lint tool.  
Others are genuine!

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[issue46142] python --help output is too long

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Question about the implementation:
I’ve found the parsing of command-line params in Python/initconfig.c and 
Python/preconfig.c.
Help is handled in initconfig, X options in preconfig.

A) could add a value to the right struct for "-X help", set it in preconfig, 
handle it in initconfig (by printing X options help and exiting, maybe reusing 
the existing print help function or writing a very similar one next to it)
B) or detect the option in preconfig, print and exit right there

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[issue46142] python --help output is too long

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Do people think the man page should be shortened too?

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[issue24132] Direct sub-classing of pathlib.Path

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[issue46198] Duplicated test name `test_get_unstructured_invalid_ew` in `test__header_value_parser.py`

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Sometimes people fix small things in multiple modules, sometimes they create 
separate tickets to have one patch per module with reviews from different 
maintainers and so on.  For this case, I check pyflakes and found a handful of 
true positives, so I would retitle the ticket to be about duplicate methods in 
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[issue46198] Duplicated test name `test_get_unstructured_invalid_ew` in `test__header_value_parser.py`

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Also fund a duplicate TestHelpers class in test_enum.

A warning for duplicate method is a false positive, because the two methods are 
used on different python versions.  But the first method uses `self.Grades.B` 
wrongly (should be `Grades.B`) so it will break when python 3.12 is started!

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[issue46196] documentation for cmd library should include columnize() function

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The method is called from one place only, but the fact that it is its own 
method and has dedicated tests seems to indicate that it was meant as 
standalone piece of functionality.  We can’t be sure of original intent given 
that no method in the class uses the `_` prefix naming convention, but I think 
it’s fine to document the function and so make it officially public now.

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[issue46204] Graphlib documentation (general cleanup)

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Could you say a little more about this?  Precisely: what are the problems you 
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[issue46126] Unittest output drives developers to avoid docstrings

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> I presume I don't need to explain why docstrings are nice and preferable over 
> comments.

Actually, can you?

Docstrings to document regular modules, classes or functions are a fine tool, 
especially with tools that extract them (pydoc, sphinx).  I don’t see the same 
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[issue46142] python --help output is too long

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Forgot to quote  -X help  to print help about X options.

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[issue46142] python --help output is too long

[Éric Araujo]

New submission from Éric Araujo :

>From Serhiy in 
>https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-...@python.org/thread/QUUBM7DGSXYWBOLZNWOSCQUDALWJIYZF/
> :

The output of "python -h" is 104 lines long now. It was only 51 lines in
3.6. 35% of it is about the -X option, and 30% about environment
variables. Also some lines in the -X option description are too long
(102 columns). Both topics are "advanced" and mostly interested for
debugging. I suggest to move them out of the main help output.  […]

Guido:

-X opt : implementation-specific option; use -X help to list options.

We could also see if we can put the help text for each of the supported -X
flags in the table defining these flags […]

GvR again:

--help-env […] prints info about env vars (new flag)


I would enjoy trying to make a patch around next week!

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nosy: eric.araujo, serhiy.storchaka
priority: normal
severity: normal
stage: needs patch
status: open
title: python --help output is too long
type: enhancement
versions: Python 3.11

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[issue46119] Update bundled pip to 21.3.1 and setuptools to 59.7.0

[Éric Araujo]

Change by Éric Araujo :


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nosy: +ncoghlan, pradyunsg -eric.araujo
type:  -> enhancement

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[issue20741] Documentation archives should be available also in tar.xz format

[Éric Araujo]

Éric Araujo  added the comment:

tar is modular and depends on optional external programs to handle compression 
(tar itself does archival only).

gzip is still common, and xz has largely replaced bz2 these days.
I would expect it to be installed on most systems.

(For HTTP compression there are new competitors, brotli and zstd, but I haven’t 
seen these used to compress files.)

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[issue46044] Update distutils documentation to say PyPI only accepts tar.gz and zip.

[Éric Araujo]

Éric Araujo  added the comment:

I am not sure if this sould also be reported to 
https://github.com/pypa/distutils/ because I don’t know if they build and 
publish the docs somewhere.

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stage: patch review -> commit review
versions: +Python 3.10, Python 3.11, Python 3.9

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[issue46064] Permalinks to underscored documentation entries don't work.

[Éric Araujo]

Éric Araujo  added the comment:

I can reproduce.

Source code:


__debug__¶

HTML IDs should start with a letter, a rule which is generally ignored by 
browsers because of the amount of pages using numerical IDs for example.  I 
think the HTML5 spec does not require starting with a letter, but I haven’t 
found that stated clearly.

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[issue46095] Warning about iterate/modify has unwarranted detail

[Éric Araujo]

Éric Araujo  added the comment:

The note does say it’s about mutable sequences like lists.

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[issue17005] Add a topological sort algorithm

[Éric Araujo]

Éric Araujo  added the comment:

See https://bugs.python.org/issue46071 for request to change the API
(I preferred adding a note here than adding all people to nosy there)

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[issue46071] Graphlib documentation

[Éric Araujo]

Change by Éric Araujo :


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components: +Library (Lib) -Documentation
nosy:  -docs@python
versions:  -Python 3.10, Python 3.9

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[issue46068] Change use of warnings.warn to logging.warning in a few places

[Éric Araujo]

Éric Araujo  added the comment:

To have a discussion about this, you should open a thread on discuss.

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