't access the file, you can't access it. (Not to
>dismiss your question; I just wonder how you're going to handle the
>different cases)
Real-life use case for user-requested operation: if no permission, skip
the file "permanently" (until it changes, at least); if locke
In article ,
Roy Smith wrote:
>In article ,
> Dave Angel wrote:
>>
>> I'd also add a print statement, just to assure yourself that it's running.
>
>My trick to make sure something is running is to add "assert 0".
``1/0`` is
s lying around:
domain = MAILTO.split('@',1)[1]
server = str(dns.resolver.query(domain, 'MX')[0].exchange)
You'll need to play around a bit to find out what that does, but it
should point you in the right direction.
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amespace
>to the function readlines so there should be no confusion. At least not
>for a moderately experienced programmer, beginners can be confused by the
>littlest things sometimes.
Actually, as an experienced programmer, I *do* think it is confusing as
evidenced by the mistake
port *`` ignores any module global names in foo that start
with a single leading underscore. Obviously, this has little effect for
most Python programs because you DON'T USE ``import *``.
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gt; print(x)
>> print(y)
>
>I was tempted to post that myself, but he said /simpler/ ;)
>From my POV, that *is* simpler. When you change the parameters for foo,
you don't need to change the arg pre-processing. Also allows code reuse,
probably any program needing this
gt; >>> (a[:, 0] + a[:, 1]) / 2
>array([1, 1, 2])
I'd actually think it should be the max. Consider a stereo where one
side is playing a booming bass while the other side is playing a rest
note -- should the mono combination be half as loud as as the bass?
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sometimes do. (Or so I am lead to believe.)
>
>This sonds like a good use case for a context manager, like the one in
>decimal.Context.get_manager().
Note that because get_manager() applies to a specific Context instance it
is safe in a threaded application, which is NOT tr
self.username
>
>to be:
>
>def __unicode__(self):
>return unicode(self.username)
>
>This never got noticed before because normally, self.username already is
>a unicode string, so it just works.
You apparently need more coffee when programming after waking up! (
, and will probably sneer or laugh at you
> privately. And possibly publicly too.
>
>- If you hope to convince the Python community to change ,
> we are constrained by backwards-compatibility issues, policies, and
> design decisions. Frequently there are (mis-)features that
ks clumsy next to the Haskell.
If you want more Pythonic, follow PEP8 in your formatting. ;-)
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In article <50959154$0$6880$e4fe5...@news2.news.xs4all.nl>,
Hans Mulder wrote:
>On 3/11/12 20:41:28, Aahz wrote:
>> In article <50475822$0$6867$e4fe5...@news2.news.xs4all.nl>,
>> Hans Mulder wrote:
>>> On 5/09/12 15:19:47, Franck Ditter wrote:
>>>
bage collected.
That's old news, fixed in 2.5 or 2.6 IIRC -- interned strings now get
collected by refcounting like everything else.
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hey'll still be compared char-for-char
>until there's a difference.
Without looking at the code, I'm pretty sure there's a hash check first.
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g the life time of an object.
>
>It's usually phrased as "a and b are the same object". If the object
>is mutable, then changing a will also change b. If a and b aren't
>mutable, then it doesn't really matter whether they share a physical
>address.
That last sen
uestion, I find this
more readable:
if x not in cache:
Without testing, I'm not sure, but I believe it's more efficient, too
(creates fewer bytecodes).
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le.loads() releases the GIL, but it doesn't; you need to
use pickle.load() (and cStringIO if you want to do it in memory).
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"At Resolver we've found it useful to short-circuit any doub
rams?
from __future__ import absolute_import
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In article ,
Terry Reedy wrote:
>On 4/11/2011 11:54 AM, Aahz wrote:
>> In article,
>> Ken D'Ambrosio wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey, all. A co-worker asked me a question, and I've got no idea how (or
>>> if) it can be done. Bottom line: he'd like
MainThread? Or should this be done in a
>separate thread being informed about a keyboard exception by the main
>thread?
Outside of signals, there should not be a problem with that. I don't
have time to look further, I just noticed that nobody responded.
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hat you want, and now you just need to gussy it up in an editor.
I've never used it myself, but IIRC ipython does what you want very
nicely.
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"At Resolver we've found it useful to short-circuit
ronment. It's available in iTunes
>at http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/pypad/id428928902?mt=8#
There's nothing wrong with advertising this, I suggest that you also
announce it on c.l.py.announce
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&
In article <4d9f32a2$1...@dnews.tpgi.com.au>,
Lie Ryan wrote:
>On 04/09/11 01:08, Aahz wrote:
>>
>> Actually, my take is that removing __cmp__ was a mistake. (I already
>> argued about it back in python-dev before it happened, and I see little
>> point reh
ll out the cmp=
>argument in cases where they use the cmp() builtin in 2.x?
Actually, my take is that removing __cmp__ was a mistake. (I already
argued about it back in python-dev before it happened, and I see little
point rehashing it. My reason is strictly efficiency grounds: when
compariso
In article <87bp1a3g59@benfinney.id.au>,
Ben Finney wrote:
>a...@pythoncraft.com (Aahz) writes:
>
>>>(I always recommend people to use PostgreSQL, though; which is
>>>superior in almost every way, especially the C client library and the
>>>wire protoc
gt;>> doubt that it's enough faster to warrnat this kludge).
>>
>> I'm with Aahz. =A0Don't do that.
>>
>> I don't know what you're doing, but I suspect an even better solution
>> would be to have your program run a "reconfigu
ery way, especially the C client library and the wire protocol.)
Can you point at a reference for the latter? I have been trying to
convince my company that PG is better than MySQL.
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r, and that was considered too
>drastic a change.
...especially given CPython's goal of easy integration with C libraries.
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"Programming language design is not a rational science. Most reasoning
abou
[posted & e-mailed]
In article ,
Florian Friesdorf wrote:
>
>An alternative to mixin-based subclassing:
>
>http://pypi.python.org/pypi/plumber
You'll probably get more interest if you provide a summary.
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ta import data
>
>As the data often changes, I would like to reimport it every n (e.g.
>10) seconds.
Don't do that. ;-) I suggest using exec instead. However, I would be
surprised if import worked faster than, say, JSON (more precisely, I
doubt that it's enough
In article ,
Jean-Michel Pichavant wrote:
>
>Python is easy to learn, I'm not sure it's possible to write a bad book
>about it.
Yes, it is. I can name two:
Deitel: Python How to Program
Perl to Python Migration
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istake we made because our performance requirements are fairly modest.
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"Programming language design is not a rational science. Most reasoning
about it is at best rationalization of gut feelings, and at
ltiple open connections and assign them per request.
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"Programming language design is not a rational science. Most reasoning
about it is at best rationalization of gut feelings, and at worst plain
wrong."
an exit handler that converts your thread to daemon? (Or
something like that.)
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indirection." --Butler Lampson
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t;line = nextline
It's a Bad Idea to mix direct file operations with the iterator API.
Use f.read() instead of f.next().
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>custom objects from C and pass them as arguments to a function call.
You should definitely investigate Cython, but if you really want to roll
your own, look in the examples inside the Python source itself.
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In article , kj
wrote:
>
>standard OOP semantics
"...some experts might say a C++ program is not object-oriented without
inheritance and virtual functions. As one of the early Smalltalk
implementors myself, I can say they are full of themselves." --zconcept
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In article <0d7143ca-45cf-44c3-9e8d-acb867c52...@f30g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>,
Daniel da Silva wrote:
>
>I have come across a task where I would like to scan a short 20-80
>character line of text for instances of " ". Ideally
> could be of any tense.
In Sovie
In article <4d038b63$0$3$c3e8da3$54964...@news.astraweb.com>,
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>
>Is there a way to have unittest.main() find and run doc_test_suite
>together with the other test suites?
You probably need to use nose or something. (That's what
>and
>
>import test
Just adding to this thread for Gooja:
Don't use "import *" -- it makes debugging difficult because you can't
tell where a name comes from.
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"Think of it
entheses.
>>
>> I haven't heard that version before. The one I heard was:
>> "Lots of Irritating Single Parentheses".
>
>Long Involved Stupid Parentheses.
http://www.netfunny.com/rhf/jokes/90q2/lispcode.html
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In article ,
Google Poster wrote:
>
>The syntax reminds me of Lots of Interspersed Silly Parentheses
>(L.I.S.P.), but without the parentheses.
You're not the first person to make that observation:
http://norvig.com/python-lisp.html
See also:
http://norvig.com/python-iaq.ht
In article ,
mpnordland wrote:
>
>First, to pacify those who hate google groups: What is a good usenet
>client?
trn3.6 ;-)
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"Think of it as evolution in action." --Tony Rand
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e kind of class instance that works with multiprocessing and emits one
port number when its __call__() method gets invoked. (There may be other
ways to accomplish the same effect, but that's what springs to mind.)
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In article ,
Harishankar wrote:
>On Thu, 02 Dec 2010 17:33:47 -0800, Aahz wrote:
>>
>> Please demonstrate that using ``if`` blocks for True/False is impler and
>> cleaner than using ``try`` blocks to handle exceptions.
>
>It is my personal preference and coding sty
r than using ``try`` blocks to handle exceptions.
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In article ,
moerchendiser2k3 wrote:
>
>Hi, is there any chance to get the frame object of the previous called
>function?
sys._current_frames(), sys._getframe()
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"Think of it as evolution in a
In article ,
Phlip wrote:
>
>Thanks all for playing! And as usual I forgot a critical detail:
>
>I'm writing a matcher for a Morelia /viridis/ Scenario step, so the
>matcher must be a single regexp.
Why? (You're apparently the author of Morelia, but I don't real
e herself maybe after some initial help.
What other interests does she have? Might Python play a role?
http://micheinnz.livejournal.com/1080735.html
(Agent Weasel ended up making a presentation at the NZ PyCon.)
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us job used this rather heavily, but I can't provide you with
code. I suspect we weren't the only people, but I have no clue how to
locate samples.
Were you searching code.google.com or something else?
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tiline lambdas have been
>averted. The weird "functional if" syntax additions were a cave-in to
>the functional crowd, and may have been a mistake.
Did you actually read the PEP explanation for *why* Guido decided to add
conditional expressions?
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GIL. Much easier than finding
the problem in the first place...)
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go calling it doubles." --John Cleese anticipates Usenet
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x(self): return 42
>...
>>>> a = A()
>>>> a.__dict__['x'] = 24
>>>> a.x
>42
>>>> a.__dict__['x']
>24
>
>This is documented, but I actually don't know the reason for it.
Because otherwise you would be able to overwri
> Injection-Info: g20g2000prg.googlegroups.com; posting-host=115.64.196.128;
>> posting-account=rYyWJQoAAACVJO77HvcyJfa3TnGYCqK_
>> User-Agent: G2/1.0
>> X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US)
>> AppleWebKit/534.12 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/9.0.576.0
>> Safari/534.12,gzip(gfe)
>>
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bePlace() method and add(), remove() and getItem() methods
>for each list. It may be possible to use a single list for all types of
>object, in which case the object itself would be very small indeed.
Maybe you want a rule-based approach:
http://eblong.com/zarf/essays/rule-based-if/
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In article <4cdfe050$0$10182$426a3...@news.free.fr>,
News123 wrote:
>
>Is there a simple way in Python to identify all active Threads /
>QThreads when trying, such that I can locate the thread, itls related
>python code and fix it?
threading.enumerate() or sys._current_fr
ta=self.get_page_data()
>return data
Use urllib2 so that you can set a timeout (Python 2.6+).
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t too O/T - I was just wondering how people read/send to
>>>>> this mailing list, eg. normal email client, gmane, some other software
>>>>> or online service?
>>>> Usenet via my ISP, on comp.lang.python.
>>>>
>>> Us
ou still haven't figured it out, try pythonmac-sig.
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er, I think
that using scare quotes around a person's name is insulting and not
appropriate. That goes triple if you misspell their name.
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"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do
*now* which path to take: 2 or 3? As we
>will be translating the notes we'll probably stick with out choice for
>the next few years.
One reason not otherwise mentioned is that overall Unicode support is
better in Python 3, and given your international audience, that&
app on bugs and give ideas.
You should probably explain what minimal-D is, I'm certainly not going to
look at something when I have no clue.
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"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional t
ed classes. Surely it's an argument against
>writing Foo in Python?
Maybe, but there's no reason for posting that ten times! ;-)
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ss, it should have been named `_FTPFile`. When
your class isn't public, it doesn't matter much exactly how you expose it
internally. (I essentially never use __all__ myself, but I don't write
libraries for public consumption.)
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In article ,
Ian Hobson wrote:
>
>I am attempting to create a Windows Service in Python.
BTW, you probably want to subscribe to
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-win32
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"If you thi
n't and tinyurl & friends are really helpful in that
>context.
There's no reason you can't cater to that problem by using tinyurl *in*
*addition* to the full regular URL.
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"The volume of a p
In article ,
Thomas Jollans wrote:
>On Sunday 19 September 2010, it occurred to Aahz to exclaim:
>> In article ,
>> Thomas Jollans wrote:
>>>On Wednesday 01 September 2010, it occurred to Markus Kraus to exclaim:
>>>>
>>>> So the feature overvie
zero help to anyone
who might later want to look it up (and also no accessibility if tinyurl
ever goes down). At the very least, include the original URL for
reference.
(Yes, I realize this is probably a joke given the smiley I excised, but
too many people do just post tinyurl.)
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In article ,
Tim Chase wrote:
>On 09/18/10 23:46, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>
>> Do your bit to help stamp out parrocy.
>
>Did you send this by mistake? It looks like a parroty-error. I
>think it's a bit off...
Agh!
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In article ,
Thomas Jollans wrote:
>On Wednesday 01 September 2010, it occurred to Markus Kraus to exclaim:
>>
>> So the feature overview:
>
>First, the obligatory things you don't want to hear: Have you had
>a look at similar efforts? A while ago, Aahz posted so
nother argument against TLAs.
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Before you ask questions there, do a bit of searching first -- there are
lots of examples.
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[on old computer technologies and programmers] "Fancy tail fins on a
brand new '
refer Python in Chicago I could keep
>an eye on.
Nobody else has responded, so I'll just refer you to the usual job
boards, including
http://www.python.org/community/jobs/
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In article , wrote:
>
>Just read that Mint is a fine version of Debian Linux.
>Any comments about python on this ?
Why would there be? Either it works or it's broken, and given that it's
Debian, I'd certainly bet that Python works.
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nt in this case. The effort devoted to
>explaining this issue far outweighs the burden it caused initially. I'll
>try to be more explicit when presenting it in future, to forestall this.
s/explicit/accurate/
Had you noted that some lines of code were wrapped short, I would have
agreed with y
;[a-z]')
def is_palindrome(s):
letters = pat.findall(s.lower())
return letters == reversed(letters)
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[on old computer technologies and programmers] "Fancy tail fins on a
brand new '59 Cadillac didn&
looks like *your* problem to me; except for exactly one paragraph,
I don't see comb-style formatting in Lynx at that URL.
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[on old computer technologies and programmers] "Fancy tail fins on a
s problems with reading various emails,
>newsgroup postings, forums and what not, to start using modern tools
>that work with the vast majority of other tools.
Why? Raymond's post worked fine for me with trn3.6
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In article ,
Thomas Jollans wrote:
>
>Also, Python 2.5 is frightfully old. [...]
"Frightfully"??? I'm sure plenty of people are still using Python 2.3
in production environments (certainly my last job did as of 1.5 years
ago, and I would be mildly surprised if they upgra
iate), rather than the namespace lookup just
>moving up the hierarchy when not found. This is confusing to me and
>is making me question my understanding of namespace lookups. Are
>nested scopes a special case where the lookup is handled differently?
>
>What if I wan
n of IPython, a function that used to
>return None if there was no instance of an IPython interactive shell
>now creates and returns a new instance. This was the cause of the
>error I was reporting.
Hoist on your own petard, eh? ;-) Thanks for reporting the solution.
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>to understand the subtle difference, until your friend comes over and
>says, "You dolt, you just wasted half the afternoon. They're the same
>thing. Move on, this is not the bug you're looking for".
...and if you're a Python guru, you
range = 42
>
>at some point. That explains a lot about the difficulties of implementing
>Python efficiently. (And the xrange=range trick works well thanks.)
Actually, range() is a function. But the same point applies, squared --
you really can never know what kind of object is hiding
for Python that you *can* use recursion; it's usually the simplest way of
walking a tree structure (such as a directory tree). Python would be an
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understanding of recursion, and the same would apply to callback
functions, FSM, linked lists, and so on. (I mostly think I do really
understand polymorphism and hashtables.)
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gt;>> 1, 2, 3
(1, 2, 3)
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e.
Many people still use 32-bit Python -- an int is twelve bytes there.
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utput.split('\n')[1:] # skip the header
for row in output:
if not row:
continue
child_pid, parent_pid = row.split()
if parent_pid == str(pid):
child_pid = int(child_pid)
os.kill(child_pid, signal.SIGUSR1)
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In article ,
Jerry Hill wrote:
>On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 10:09 AM, Aahz wrote:
>>
>> I suggest that we should agree on these guarantees and document them in
>> the core.
>
>I can't get to the online python-dev archives from work (stupid
>filter!) so I can
In article ,
Jerry Hill wrote:
>On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 7:42 PM, Aahz wrote:
>>
>> Possibly; IMO, people should not need to run timeit to determine basic
>> algorithmic speed for standard Python datatypes.
>
>http://wiki.python.org/moin/TimeComplexity takes a stab at
In article <878w3ogpvq@benfinney.id.au>,
Ben Finney wrote:
>a...@pythoncraft.com (Aahz) writes:
>>
>> That reminds me: one co-worker (who really should have known better ;-)
>> had the impression that sets were O(N) rather than O(1).
>
>For settling exactly
hough
writing that off as a brain-fart seems appropriate, it's also the case
that the docs don't really make that clear, it's implied from requiring
elements to be hashable. Do you agree that there should be a comment?
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to the actual management of the
reference counter, you're correct, but it's especially not clear that
your second sentence is so restricted.
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totically
>approach O(log n) if the question is well formed, but O(2^n) if
>flaming, indentation/line-length preferences, the meaning of OOP,
>SQL-parameter escaping, McNugget combinations, or suggestions that
>Python is "just a scripting language" are involved...
+1 QOT
ies the traceback to me, it it's helped
>me diagnose their issues a lot.
That only really works for non-GUI applications. For GUI apps, log files
are the way to go.
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y-discussion
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other main reason being that refcounting is much
easier for a random C library.
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In article <4c78572c$0$28655$c3e8...@news.astraweb.com>,
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 09:16:52 -0700, Aahz wrote:
>> In article , MRAB
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>An object will be available for garbage collection when nothing refers
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mean that objects get reaped as soon as nothing
points at them. OTOH, CPython does also have garbage collection to back
up refcounting so that when you have unreferenced object cycles they
don't stay around.
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