old. 23.1 has been
released more than a year ago. The current version is 23.2.
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haven't been studying.
What about using what I learned to write programs that work? Does that
count for anything?
No. Having put together a cupboard that holds some books without
falling apart does not make you a carpenter, much less an architect.
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way never to break a thing is not to touch it in the first
place. But that will not help you if it decides to break on its own.
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John Bokma j...@castleamber.com writes:
David Kastrup d...@gnu.org writes:
John Passaniti john.passan...@gmail.com writes:
Amen! All this academic talk is useless. Who cares about things like
the big-O notation for program complexity. Can't people just *look*
at code and see how complex
to see
its benchmarks and feel their pain in your own backplane.
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Emmy Noether emmynoeth...@gmail.com writes:
Some entity, AKA David Kastrup d...@gnu.org,
wrote this mindboggling stuff:
(selectively-snipped-or-not-p)
Software is a puzzle and it must be explained to be able to do that,
its like a lock
There is no unfreedom involved here. Freedom does
Emmy Noether emmynoeth...@gmail.com writes:
On Jul 18, 12:27 am, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:
What did you ever do to _deserve_ others working for you?
What did we do to deserve him to write that elisp manual of 800+
pages ? NOTHING.
So once one gives you something, you demand
, share with them
4/ Freedom to contribute to your community
Software is a puzzle and it must be explained to be able to do that,
its like a lock
There is no unfreedom involved here. Freedom does not hand you a free
ride. Only a free road.
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the main gist), so the message might not
actually be helpful.
So what is there to gain?
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upward continuations and nested functions
that can be stack implemented.
There is a Scheme implementation (I keep forgetting the name) which
actually does both: it actually uses the call stack but never returns,
and the garbage collection includes the stack.
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to the state
of the current dynamic context. As long as a continuation remains
accessible, you can return to it as often as you like.
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.
No. It is a valid meaning of the word freed.
Xpost+Fup2 gnu.misc.discuss: this is not really relevant for most of
the touched Usenet groups.
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word from a whole explanation of _one_
naming and declaring it as equivalent is not really being careful with
language at all.
And even when using a Thesaurus, it should be clear that the offered
alternatives are not supposed to or capable of capturing all nuances
of the keyword.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bent C Dalager) writes:
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Kastrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bent C Dalager) writes:
Not as much been liberated, but turned liberated.
I expect that either way you split this hair, using free in the
sense of possessing
half of the time using
Emacs you have invested for complaining about it, you'd at least have
a chance not to look like the totally pompous clueless idiot you do
now.
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it nevertheless.
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?
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the tutorial in software he did not download.
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due to
Emacspeak.
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of embarrassing tirades that are completely based on nonsense
of your own imagination.
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not choose to work in the computing
business since things move fast there, and uneducatability (and the
unwillingness to reevaluate decade-old experience) are plainly a
hinderance.
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file
dialog. Again, _try_ a current version of Emacs before showing your
ignorance.
[Other nonsensical speculation deleted]
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you continue spewing about a system you don't even
know, could you educate yourself about the state of affairs?
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is not
qualified for reporting _any_ computing experience.
It is like letting yourself get a report about the points of violin
playing from somebody who has just had his first exposure to music,
incidentally in the form of a violin lesson.
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/software/auctex/preview-latex.html
illustrating WYSIWYG LaTeX editing in Emacs windows.
So what is your problem?
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for help, f1, brings up help?
Not to mention that there is an initial splash screen pointing this
out?
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for help, f1, brings up help? And because there is that
standard GNOME icon of a lifesaver which you can click?
Not to mention that there is an initial splash screen pointing most of
this out?
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after you were pretty much universally derided in comp.text.tex for
making a spectacle of your self-chosen ignorance.
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underwear, what will?
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you said you actually tried out?
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Twisted [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Jun 20, 5:37 pm, David Kastrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...spewing...babbling...
I won't dignify your insulting twaddle and random ad-hominem verbiage
with any more responses after this one. Something with actual logical
argumentation to rebut may
Roy Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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wrote:
Kaldrenon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I'm very, very new to emacs. I used it a little this past year in
college, but I didn't try at all to delve into its features. I'm
starting
was programming I'd vote Emacs.
You know you can use something like
C-x C-f /su::/etc/fstab RET
(or /sudo::/etc/fstab) in order to edit files as root in a normal
Emacs session?
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Lew [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Bjorn Borud [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
so if the context was system administration, I'd vote for vi as
well. if the context was programming I'd vote Emacs.
David Kastrup wrote:
You know you can use something like
C-x C-f /su::/etc/fstab RET
(or /sudo::/etc
f1 i
f1 ?
Huh? The latter are available by default on Emacs 22.1.
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notbob [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On 2007-06-21, David Kastrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You know you can use something like
C-x C-f /su::/etc/fstab RET
(or /sudo::/etc/fstab) in order to edit files as root in a normal
Emacs session?
As I understand it, this will only work for ver 22
and make Emacs more obviously the incarnation of
editing descended into this world.
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is helpful but optional (most people would be eyed
strangely anyway if they kept a cheat barrel around at their
workplace).
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Twisted [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Jun 20, 4:49 pm, Twisted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jun 20, 4:35 pm, David Kastrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Twisted [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I continue to suspect that there's an ulterior motive for making and
keeping certain software actively
Twisted [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Jun 20, 5:21 pm, David Kastrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Twisted [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Jun 20, 4:49 pm, Twisted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jun 20, 4:35 pm, David Kastrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Twisted [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I continue
HUGE changes to (at minimum) the
help and pane-navigation (er, excuse me, window-navigation)
controls...
So what version are you babbling about?
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the application genre is new to the user.
And they don't.
Really, what is the last version of Emacs you actually tried?
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Twisted [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Jun 20, 5:35 pm, David Kastrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But Emacs does not have a clunky interface.
That's for the everyday novice-to-intermediate user to decide.
And they do.
Your gnu.org email address (and attitude) clearly marks you as not a
normal
block
moves, or uses eclipse and bogs down the session, or uses MS Notepad
and can't enforce language-specific indents, I get frustrated.
My favorite killing offence is /* vi:set ts=4: */.
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