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Reproduced using Wish built from the current Tk head (on Windows - I'm unable
to reproduce on Linux).
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Strangely, invoking destroy in the trace callback raises a very strange error
that appears to be missing the first two lines (tkinter may be hiding
E. Paine added the comment:
I have been able to reproduce this in Wish built from the current head.
Interestingly, the cut-off seems to be 1px off what `font measure` gives (see
attached). Though in this behaviour is a problem, the man page does note the
following:
> The return va
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Reproduced on Wish 8.6.9 and 8.6.11 (same behaviour on 8.6.11 as reported on
8.6.12).
I can't comment on why this is happening or which is correct behaviour so I
would recommend taking it up with the Tk team
https://core.tcl-lang.org/tk/reportlist (tkinter
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Sorry for the spam...
OK, making the corresponding ctypes calls to the commands reported in
issue31244 succeeds in the Python REPL, but the Tk text's behaviour doesn't
change. In IDLE, the ctypes calls fail.
ctypes.windll.Kernel32.SetConsoleCP(1251
E. Paine added the comment:
Actually, doing a bit more research, issue31244 came up (and more specifically
msg300716). It was concluded there that the issue should not be fixed, though
there was some C/C++ code reported in the last message that the OP claims could
potentially solve
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I have reproduced the behaviour described in Wish (from the Tk head). Having
tried other applications, I can also confirm that it is normal for inputs to be
treated in this manner (e.g. using Ctrl-C on my Latin keyboard with the input
device set to Russian copies
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Fix merged upstream: https://core.tcl-lang.org/tk/tktview/be8f5b9f
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> Any word on the tk Menu type parameter change?
I'll admit to having completely forgot about this issue and not raising it with
the Tk team. Manually trying this case on Tk 8.6.12 segfaults, so I really need
to raise it. To reproduce the segfault, simply
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I cannot reproduce on Ubuntu 21.10 (Tk 8.6.11), so I believe we can close this
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I can confirm that 3.10.1 is going to use Tk 8.6.12 (see #45732). Python 3.10.0
was meant to use Tk 8.6.11, but there was an issue with the build process
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Is support for such old Tk versions useful? 8.5.4 was released in late 2008,
and I highly doubt anyone would still be using it. IMO, 8.5.12 would be a good
compromise, since we're giving support to a version more than 9 years old, but
would simplify PR-29913
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> Do we still use Tk 8.6.11 on any platform with Python 3.9+
No, none of the python.org installers include it now. On Linux, according to
https://pkgs.org/download/tk, several distros still use 8.6.11 (most notably
Ubuntu 21.04). I'll see if I can reprod
E. Paine added the comment:
This is because your code isn't clearing the Treeview, it's hiding it by
setting the parent Frame's width and height to 0. When this parent Frame is
reshown, because you want to put a new TreeView on it, the old one is still
there.
The easiest way to solve
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> please don't declare this "not a bug" until you've tested it on Windows
Sorry, I didn't explain my reasoning for that resolution. I did test it on
Windows, but my trail of though went something like: "unexpected behaviour
doesn't necessari
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I believe this is just because the `selectbackground` is only shown when the
widget has focus. Try, for example, only selecting part of the text and then
tabbing off. Therefore, I think this is not a bug. The only thing which makes
me slightly doubt myself
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This does not seem to have done the trick. The installers for 3.10.0 and
3.11.0a1 both use Tk 8.6.10 still. This can be verified using the bug in #45681
or using `tkinter.test.support.get_tk_patchlevel()`.
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This is definitely a Tk issue, but it is resolved as of Tk 8.6.11. I assume
this is similar to #41969.
Strangely, the Windows installers for 3.10 and 3.11 appear to still be using Tk
8.6.10 despite PR-25170, rather than 8.6.11. I'll raise it on #43652
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> when is the new version is coming for tackling this problem?
The patch was merged in #44828 and backported to 3.8, 3.9 and 3.10 (i.e. it
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What happens if you use `ctypes.windll.user32.SetProcessDPIAware(1)` (note the
1)? Also, are the checkboxes on the IDLE config dialog affected (since IDLE
also sets the dpi awareness: see
https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/main/Lib/idlelib/pyshell.py#L14-L22
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> This is likely the same issue as described in #44828
I agree; Ned and Marc are working on it. I doubt the patch will be ready for
3.9.8, but it'll probably be in 3.9.9 and 3.10.1.
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> Any word on the tk Menu type parameter change?
I haven't submitted a bug report yet and want to do a little more research
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By using "-u all,-largefile,-audio,-gui", you are specifying to enable all
special resources except 'largefile', 'audio' and 'gui'. Since the ttk tests
require the 'gui' resource to run, the tests are skipped. (please see
https://docs.python.org
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It turns out the `test_configure_compound` change was intentional
(https://core.tcl-lang.org/tk/tktview/46c2f088) and an empty string will use
the value given by the style ("If set to the empty string (the default)..."
https://www.tcl.tk/man
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I suspect this is a bug with Tk. `-compound` accepting the empty string is not
documented and the valid Ttk compound values listed in the source do not
include it
(https://github.com/tcltk/tk/blob/57451473/generic/ttk/ttkInit.c#L34-L37 -
ignore the NULL
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Nvidia (using the proprietary drivers)
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This issue is to separately address the test_winfo_rgb failure reported by
myself in #43139. This issue does not currently affect any of the buildbots.
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On one computer I am experiencing a problem with the test_winfo_rgb test
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> I need to do more research into exactly what versions / platforms are
> affected.
There is something non-trivial about this test failure. I have now tested
another computer with a very similar setup (Plasma on X11) with exactly the
same monitor (both
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TL;DR I believe these are both Tk issues. I will take it up with them when I
have time.
Starting with `test_winfo_rgb`, it is not the case that the expected behaviour
is no longer that #4a3c8c is equivalent to #4a4a3c3c8c8c since this is
documented on the man
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Would it make sense, since this issue pretty much makes IDLE officially support
.pyi files, to add the "Edit with IDLE" menu when right-clicking on a .pyi file
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Felix, are these still the exact errors you're experiencing? Both in my normal
Arch install and in a chroot environment I get the following errors instead:
==
FAIL: test_winfo_rgb
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> Did the FiraCode font work for you or merely not work without crashing?
It worked fine (other than a few missing features such as context-aware
punctuation).
The steps I did to test were:
- Load IDLE
- Enter config dialog
- Set IDLE to use Fira Code font
-
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> How about "Control-D (end-of-file, a.k.a. EOF)"
I doubt beginners care that it's EOF.
> or even just "Control-D"
I'd be a lot more inclined towards this.
> IDLE uses the latter [Ctrl-D] even on Windows, and Ctrl-Z does not w
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> Thoughts
Is it possible to make non-widget specific methods more obvious (the first one
that caught my eye was bind_class)? I'm thinking something like using italic
with a key at the top noting that is what it means. I like the 'aka' thing,
though. Thanks M
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> Sometimes it doesn't pendown when I drag
Sorry, I can't think why this would be. Maybe ask on Stack Overflow? For now,
though, I doubt it's a bug with turtle so IMO this issue should be closed.
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IMO this should be closed as third-party, since there is very little we can /
should do (yes we could remove the offending characters from the preview if the
user has the font installed, but this is a lot of extra
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Thank you for reporting this issue (and doing your research!). I don't think we
could use `command=self._callback` since this wouldn't pass the new value, but
something like `command=lambda val=val: self._callback(val)` would work
perfectly. Would you like
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It turns out the problem is a combination of the font and IDLE preview content.
With the phaistos font installed, inserting the content of the "Devanagari,
Tamil" or "East Asian" sections into a Tk text widget causes it to freeze. For
ex
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IDLE is hanging on Lib/idlelib/configdialog.py:94 (`self.wait_window()`).
Commenting this does not solve the problem: I think it's in the Tk event loop
somewhere, since my debugger shows the Python callback completing successfully.
This still doesn't explain
E. Paine added the comment:
> did problems occur without displaying any emoji
I was using an unmodified version of IDLE.
> If they include one of those characters in the font name displayed in the
> font list
This is not the case. It is listed simply as "Phaistos&
E. Paine added the comment:
Apologies, my previous message was not clear. When the segfault occurs is not
consistent and sometimes occurs when previewing the font (as reported in the
linked message) but more often when clicking the "ok" button (for which the
faulthandl
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FTR, the issue mentioned is issue42225.
msg380227 still applies for me (with Tk 8.6.11), with segfaults when I try to
preview the font. For some reason, however, the segfault appears to be when
we're closing the options window:
Python 3.9.6 (default, Jun 30 2021
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> there were Tkinter demos in 2.7 (Demo/tkinter), but they were removed
Why is this? Because people didn't want to change them all for the tkinter
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The issue is that the "release" function appears to be called before the "drag"
function for the last coordinate. The fix is probably only lowering the pen
when the mouse button is first clicked, as this is guaranteed to be called
before &
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I'm slightly confused about the purpose of this PR. Is the intention to create
a demo, or this designed to be used as an API?
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E. Paine added the comment:
Thanks for reporting this issue. This was (very) recently fixed in issue42560 /
PR27842. These changes include a new hello world example and can be seen in the
3.10 / 3.11 docs
(https://docs.python.org/3.10/library/tkinter.html#a-hello-world-program
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> In particular, you added OS-specific info
I also deemed this very useful information. The issue is that it is not
documented in the man pages and so those values are pulled straight from the
source code. We would need to decide whether we keep such informat
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> I don't see the tcl/tk versions as an issue
My main concern was when Tcl/Tk has a major new release with new kwargs. If
MacOS was shipped with one version and Windows another, I suspect we would have
to hold back an update to the docs. I am slightly l
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Thank you for looking at this in great detail Mark and that all seems like a
very useful set of changes! I've got a few more specific comments below, but
they're mostly just small details.
2. I'd personally prefer alphabetical order (except Tix, which should
E. Paine added the comment:
Thanks for reporting issue and for including the backtrace. I presume you used
the Universal 2 installer, given that you are running an M1 mac?
Kevin, do you have access to the macOS 12 beta to help test whether this is a
Tkinter or Tk bug? (I assume the latter
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E. Paine added the comment:
Thank you for reporting this issue. I have personally found this problem to be
annoying and it is also noted in msg377227. I did a brief bit of research but
couldn't find an existing ticket on https://core.tcl-lang.org/tk/ticket so
please feel free to report
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Sadly, there is no `activerelief` option. The Tk man pages note the following:
> A button's relief is changed to sunken whenever mouse button 1 is pressed
> over the button, and the relief is restored to its original value when button
> 1 is later release
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Sorry, I should specify that we would use `winfo class` in order to then return
a new tkinter object for the existing Tk widget (which currently cannot be done)
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I agree with Akuli that raising a KeyError is not expected behaviour (combined
with the fact this is caught elsewhere), and therefore is probably a regression.
While we could use `winfo class` to determine the type of Tk widget, this would
probably require
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> Can you change labels on your own PRs?
Sadly not (hence why I need to ask for e.g. skip news)
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Can this issue be closed?
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> full, complete, useful documentation of everything
Please see msg384022 on why I'm personally against such changes. I was working
on 'translating' the Tk man pages into something (hopefully) understandable by
tkinter users (as reference documentation), howe
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> But we do not want to risk conflicting with Tk.
I think it's worth noting that tkinter does already have some 'extra'
functionality over just what Tk offers (such as the ttk extension widgets
`LabeledScale` and `OptionMenu`).
While this would (IMO) be a use
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Reproducible in Python 3.9. The issue occurs because functools.partial is a
class, not function. I believe the fix is simply something like:
try:
callit.__name__ = func.__name__
except AttributeError:
callit.__name__ = type(func).__name__
This will use
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Does the activebackground option fix this? E.g.
r = tk.Tk()
b = tk.Button(r, fg="white", bg="red", activebackground="red")
b.pack()
r.mainloop()
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Can we close this, or are we leaving it open for when (if) we do a colouriser
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> I don't think this worked if the Tcl interpreter had been garbage collected
Turns out I was wrong, it appears it *does* work. The only thing we need to
change is ensuring the GIL is held when calling finalise (because, as Guido's
comment says, this process
E. Paine added the comment:
> Simply uncommenting that works perfectly on Ubuntu 20.04 and Windows 10.
I can't remember the details, but I don't think this worked if the Tcl
interpreter had been garbage collected before the Python interpreter shutdown.
Therefore, Tcl_Finalize (or simi
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@Mark, would it be at all possible for you to host the tkinter part content
from Effbot on your site (as you did with the Shipman docs for #37149)? The
docs have been down since mid-November and there is no indication of when
they'll come back up. Since tkinter
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E. Paine added the comment:
I don't mind, would you like to Tal? (I probably won't be able to dedicate any
serious time to it until mid-June). One thing I've been thinking is whether
it's worth us highlighting regardless of context. For example, you can assign a
variable to a builtin name
E. Paine added the comment:
Thanks for linking to the Lexical Analysis docs. Not quite sure how I missed
this given it is directly below the normal keywords section. Given the
distinction described there, it may instead be best for IDLE to highlight this
as its own category (i.e
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As-per PEP 634, structural pattern matching is now in Python. This introduces
the `match` and `case` keywords. IDLE does not highlight these.
The problem is that these are listed in `keyword.softkwlist` rather than
`keyword.kwlist` (which is what IDLE uses
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Personally, I find the change quite weird and will take some getting used to. I
hope people read the help at the top of the shell, but if not I can imagine
numerous bug reports about the change. I have not used any shell that has the
prompt above where you type
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I agree with your points and understand that there is good reason for the PR to
be rejected. If Terry decides it's too big (I did do a lot more than what was
originally in PR-22682), I am more than happy to close this issue
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Despite being large, the PR is mostly trivial changes (e.g. changing
indentation). The main changes worth noting (and hence the reason for this
issue) are:
1) the renaming of `ResetColorizer` to `reset_colors`, `ResetFont` to
`reset_font`, `RemoveKeybindings
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Not sure why this was marked as a problem with tkinter (neither Pygame nor the
example use it). I would be very surprised if this wasn't an issue with Pygame,
as the Python is just requesting a dictionary deallocation which is then
handled by Pygame's
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https://core.tcl-lang.org/tk/tktview/f642d7c0f4.
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> there appears to be a tk 8.6.11.1 release
This was the version I used when testing Wish on both MacOS and Linux.
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The reduction in speed with later Tk versions does not seem to occur on Linux.
See the below table (times are microseconds per iteration - tested using wish):
++--+--+
| Tk Version | clearing | not clearing
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compiling the master branch, in which case do you have the 'tk8.6-dev' package
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That example also works on my setup (see attached). The only reason I could
think that your label is not showing is that the font given is not of a valid
format (see https://www.tcl.tk/man/tcl8.6/TkCmd/font.htm#M13), though I would
have thought this would raise
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I have removed the Windows component as the issue reported seems to be on
Ubuntu (but I don't like removing others from the nosy, so have left that
alone).
Tkinter does no initial window configuration created through either `Tk()` or
`Toplevel()` as this is all
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This *appears* to be a Tk issue. I ran a benchmark (see attached) which
repeatedly performed canvas actions. The first test ("clearing") clears the
canvas, creates a rectangle, then calls both `update` and `update_idletasks`.
The second test (&qu
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Thank you for reporting this. The problem appears to be a regression with
https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/3d569fd6 where the dialog tries to be
transient to the user-passed parent rather than the default root. I will create
a PR to hopefully rectify
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This is reproducible using tkinter in Python 3.9.2 installed using both the
regular Intel and Universal2 installers. It is also reproducible in Wish
8.6.10. (tested on MacOS 11.2.1)
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This can be easily reproduced in Wish (8.6.11):
% pack [canvas .c]
% .c create rectangle 10 10 90 90
1
% .c bbox 1
9 9 91 91
% .c create rectangle 20 20 80 80 -state hidden
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% .c bbox 2
%
I doubt this is a bug because the docs
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