Re: xkcd.com/353 ( Flying with Python )

ors technically don't allow the programmer to do something they couldn't before, but are now are used everywhere, a key feature of many applications and modules. Magical-ly, y'rs, Skip > -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Testing (sorry)

s kinda like greylisting to me. I'm pretty sure that's one of the tool in the mail.python.org chain. Skip > -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Testing (sorry)

I can't explain the delays, but will note that the gate-news program on the server runs every 5 minutes via cron. There are multiple moving parts in the overall system. You'll probably get a more useful answer from postmas...@python.org. Skip -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python

Re: test-ignore

r me was always Usenet posters who used fake email addresses.) Skip -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: test-ignore

ng.python traverse the gateway and show up on this list, then alt.test won't help. Skip > -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Question about garbage collection

thon has normal reference counting, but also has a cyclic garbage collector. Here's plenty of detail about how it works: https://devguide.python.org/internals/garbage-collector/index.html Skip -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python 3.11.5 Pip Issue

> I downloaded Python 3.11.5, and there was nothing in the “Scripts” file, > and there was no Pip. I would like to know why. > Can't help with the empty/missing Scripts folder. Does running python -m ensurepip get you a working pip? Which you should then run as python -m pip

Re: What to use instead of nntplib?

echanism. > It won't magically be available via pip unless someone steps up to maintain it as a PyPI package Skip > -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: What to use instead of nntplib?

ing that from 3.13 onward. Skip -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: replacement for nntplib on Python3

You could create a git repo with just nntplib and generate a package on PyPI, then use that when running a version of Python which lacks nntplib. Skip On Wed, Apr 26, 2023, 8:42 PM Retrograde wrote: > I used to use a script that relied on nntplib, which is currently still > ava

Small lament...

uot;antigravity", but those are now old (both introduced before 2010). When was the last time a clever easter egg was introduced or an April Fool's Day joke played? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Skip -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: JOB | Lead Linux Sysadmin (Edinburgh/London)

There's a link at the bottom of each message to the list info pager. Follow the directions on that page to unsubscribe. Skip On Wed, Mar 8, 2023, 5:38 PM Thomas Gregg wrote: > Is there any way to be removed from this list? > Thank you, Tom > > On Wed, Mar 8, 2023 at 3:51 PM Sk

Re: JOB | Lead Linux Sysadmin (Edinburgh/London)

> Hello, I'm working with an employer that is looking to hire someone in > (Edinburgh or London) that can administer on-prem and vmware > platforms. > James, If you haven't already, please post to the Phone Jobs Board: https://www.python.org/jobs/ Skip > -- https://mail.pyt

Re: Python 3.10 Fizzbuzz

Dang auto-correct... Should read ... double quotes around "strings" and single quotes around 'c'haracters ... On Sun, Feb 26, 2023, 6:28 PM Skip Montanaro wrote: > is there any reason to prefer"over' ? >> > > Not really. As an old C programme

Re: Python 3.10 Fizzbuzz

raw strings where they would simplify the display.) Skip > -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Is there a more efficient threading lock?

ing the transfer to the top of the virtual machine loop. That would (I think) avoid checks related to GIL release and thread switches. I don't guarantee that's what's going on, and even if I'm correct, I don't think you can rely on it. Skip -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Is there a more efficient threading lock?

to be about the same length as a typical email message, certainly the same order of magnitude. Also, note that I call it once in the setup to eliminate the initial training of the ConllExtractor instance. I don't know if ~100us qualifies as long running or not. I'll keep messing with it. Skip -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Is there a more efficient threading lock?

is consuming huge amounts of CPU. Does threading.Lock.acquire() sleep anywhere? I didn't see anything obvious poking around in the C code which implements this stuff. I'm no expert though, so could easily have missed something. Thx, Skip -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Upgrading Python on Ubuntu 22.04.1 LTS

venv/now 3.10.7-1+focal1 amd64 [installed,local] Off the top of my head, I can't recall if it's LTS or not. If you want to go beyond 3.10.6, it should be possible. As Grant indicated though, upgrading packages on an Ubuntu system (of any flavor) is the province of the Ubuntu community. Skip --

Re: Android APK

oid/ I'd be interested to see what else turns up. Skip > -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: argparse — adding a --version flag in the face of positional args

uot;) args = parser.parse_args(["--help", "--version"]) Which option is processed depends on their order on the command line. I don't believe it's possible to run the script and see them both processed. That's probably a secondary consideration though. My script is working well enough in this regard now. Skip -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: argparse — adding a --version flag in the face of positional args

iously, "--help" is a pretty bad search term. Skip > -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: argparse — adding a --version flag in the face of positional args

idn't occur to me. I looked briefly at the code for argparse to see how it handled --help. The added argument seemed normal, so gave up, figuring there was some special handling of that option. Skip -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

argparse — adding a --version flag in the face of positional args

something like nargs='*', but that would push off detection of the presence of the positional arg to the application. Shouldn't I be able to tell argparse I'm going to process --verbose, then exit? Thx, Skip -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Ref-strings in logging messages (was: Performance issue with CPython 3.10 + Cython)

Dang autocorrect. Subject first word was supposed to be "f-strings" not "ref-strings." Sorry about that. S On Fri, Oct 7, 2022, 10:45 AM Skip Montanaro wrote: > > > On Fri, Oct 7, 2022 at 9:42 AM Andreas Ames > wrote: > >> 1. The culprit was me. As laz

Ref-strings in logging messages (was: Performance issue with CPython 3.10 + Cython)

ere was some discussion about whether and how to efficiently admit f-strings to the logging package. I'm guessing that's not gone anywhere (yet). Skip -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Python gets a mention on Reddit - in r/tifu

was particularly amused, as my son is in dev ops, writes Python from time-to-time, and my grandson is 13. I could definitely see the pattern in the story transferring over to Chris and Carmine. Skip -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Dictionary order?

ecified. That would give the implementer (likely Tim Peters much of the time) the freedom to do whatever worked best for performance or simplicity of implementation. Skip > -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Resolving Weekday Schedules to Dates

> Do you know of a library that resolves schedules like every Wednesday > at 3:00pm to absolute time, that is return the datetime of the next > occurrence? Take a look at the `rrule` module in the `dateutil` package: https://dateutil.readthedocs.io/en/stable/rrule.html Skip

Now for something completely different...

to be terribly Python-centric. Consequently, "import this" is probably not going to work. I have decided to go ahead and use my first name in lower case Courier as the core piece of the downtube graphic: skip That's not too informative (other than its relationship to moi), and I have room for pro

Re: Do projects exist to audit PyPI-hosted packages?

on to a much wider community, like numpy, returns a bunch more: https://www.libhunt.com/r/numpy Skip -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Do projects exist to audit PyPI-hosted packages?

certainly a haven for some undetected vulnerabilities. Knowing which packages have been audited — at least in a cursory fashion — could be used as a further criterion to use when deciding which packages to consider using on a project. So, does something already exist (pointers appreciated)? Th

Re: Receive a signal when waking or suspending?

o further agony <https://github.com/smontanaro/python-bits/blob/master/src/watch.py> with the keyboard and mouse. Skip (*) man systemd-sleep contains this admonition: Note that scripts or binaries dropped in /lib/systemd/system-sleep/ are intended for local use only and *should be considered hacks*. If ap

Re: Receive a signal when waking or suspending?

> I don't know in Python, but maybe you can create a script that writes > on a named pipe and read it from Python? > https://askubuntu.com/questions/226278/run-script-on-wakeup Thanks, that gives me something to munch on. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Receive a signal when waking or suspending?

on a new MacBook one of these days). I suppose bonus points for something which works on Windows, but that's not a platform I actually care about. Thx, Skip -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

[issue27546] Integrate tkinter and asyncio (and async)

Change by Skip Montanaro : -- nosy: -skip.montanaro ___ Python tracker <https://bugs.python.org/issue27546> ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe:

[issue27546] Integrate tkinter and asyncio (and async)

Skip Montanaro added the comment: See also (perhaps) https://bugs.python.org/issue47190 -- nosy: +skip.montanaro ___ Python tracker <https://bugs.python.org/issue27

[issue47190] Integrating tkinter and asyncio event loops

Skip Montanaro added the comment: That's fine. My brief search didn't turn up https://bugs.python.org/issue27546 I'm happy to close this. -- stage: patch review -> resolved status: open -> closed ___ Python tracker <https://bugs.p

[issue47190] Integrating tkinter and asyncio event loops

Change by Skip Montanaro : -- keywords: +patch pull_requests: +30355 stage: -> patch review pull_request: https://github.com/python/cpython/pull/32293 ___ Python tracker <https://bugs.python.org/issu

[issue47190] Integrating tkinter and asyncio event loops

New submission from Skip Montanaro : After looking around and asking, it appears there is no built-in integration of the tkinter and asyncio event loops. That would seem to be a good thing, at least as an example. I wrote a simple hello world which creates an AsyncTk class and uses asyncio

Re: asyncio+tkinter

watching So, Tk+asyncio turns out to be fairly easy to do, at least for simple stuff. Skip -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Set tkinter top-level window to "always on visible workspace"

; as the target window did the trick. Thanks, Skip -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Set tkinter top-level window to "always on visible workspace"

s going on), but I will keep messing around. Skip -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Set tkinter top-level window to "always on visible workspace"

ux-gnu/xfce4/xfconf/xfconfd ... I kind of assume xfce4 is the session manager sort of thing, while xfwm4 is the actual window manager. Skip -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Set tkinter top-level window to "always on visible workspace"

manager(s) I used at the time (probably twm or fvwm). Now I use fvwm4 and can't find squat online about configuration files. I do have a ~/.config/xfce4/xfwm4/ directory, but it is completely empty. Skip -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Set tkinter top-level window to "always on visible workspace"

> So you might tell your window manager to keep that window on the main workspace. Thanks. I'd forgotten about the possibility of doing this sort of thing in the window manager config. That would certainly be fine in this case. (It's been ages since I messed with this sort of thing.) S

Set tkinter top-level window to "always on visible workspace"

examples in the library doc or on the wider net which demonstrate control of this particular window manager interaction. (I don't care about Windows or Mac, at least for the time being.) Thx, Skip -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: How to detect an undefined method?

est of your (untested) code to find calls to missing functions or methods. Skip > -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

asyncio+tkinter

solutions out in the wild, but this seems like something which might best be addressed in either the asyncio or tkinter documentation, or better yet, implemented in one or the other. Skip Montanaro -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Gunicorn - HTTP and HTTPS in the same instance?

guess if it has to be, then it has to be. Skip -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Gunicorn - HTTP and HTTPS in the same instance?

port 443 (which seems to work okay). Is there some magic incantation to get it to just talk HTTP on port 80, or will I need to spin up two instances? (The non-root config works fine - plain old HTTP over port 8080.) Thx, Skip -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: email.message_from_file & quoted printable

n would occur on the way out. I think another way I might have saved myself was if I was using a modern IDE where I might have gotten some hints hovering over the method call. But, I'm an End user. I'm sure there is some add-on package I could install, but I haven't looked. Skip -- https://mail.pyt

Re: email.message_from_file & quoted printable

Cameron> Try decode=True. Skip> :dopeslap: Thanks. Never been all that consistent reading documentation. The more I think about it, the more I think maybe my lack of documentation reading wasn't all that unreasonable. The content transfer encoding and charset are properties of the m

Re: email.message_from_file & quoted printable

> > From the docs: > > get_payload(i=None, decode=False) ... Try decode=True. :dopeslap: Thanks. Never been all that consistent reading documentation. Skip -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

email.message_from_file & quoted printable

E parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- Am I expecting too much from the email package when munching on crufty 20+yo archived email messages? Thx, Skip -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Sad news: Fredrik Lundh ("Effbot") has passed away

on: https://web.archive.org/web/2020145627/http://effbot.org/ Probably worth a bookmark in your browser. Rest easy /F ... Skip -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Proliferation of Python packaging formats

Is the proliferation of packaging formats in Python as nutzo as this author believes? https://drewdevault.com/2021/11/16/Python-stop-screwing-distros-over.html Asking because I've never been in the business of releasing "retail" Python applications or packages. Skip -- https://mail.

[issue23041] csv needs more quoting rules

Skip Montanaro added the comment: Further question... All the discussion has been on the writer side of the csv module. Is there any reason that using QUOTE_STRINGS or QUOTE_NOTNULL should have an effect when reading? For example, should this line on input "",,1,'a' produce

[issue23041] csv needs more quoting rules

Skip Montanaro added the comment: Note to @samwyse and @krypten: I updated the patches and created a pull request on GitHub, but I have no way of knowing if at least krypten has signed a CLA for Python. Since you're the author of the original patches, we need to verify that you have

[issue23041] csv needs more quoting rules

Change by Skip Montanaro : -- pull_requests: +27722 stage: needs patch -> patch review pull_request: https://github.com/python/cpython/pull/29469 ___ Python tracker <https://bugs.python.org/issu

[issue45745] ./python -m test --help output for refleaks seems wrong

Skip Montanaro added the comment: Thanks, I get that. My issue is with the apparent mismatch between the English meaning of "find leaks" and "fail env changed." It seems to me that the help message(s) for one or both of those options is probably incorrect and

[issue45745] ./python -m test --help output for refleaks seems wrong

New submission from Skip Montanaro : Just preparing to make a refleaks test run, so I ran: ./python -m test --help The output related to refleaks seemed suspicious: ... Special runs: -l, --findleaks deprecated alias to --fail-env-changed ... --fail-env-changedif a test file

[issue45714] test_multiprocessing_spawn hangs sometimes

Skip Montanaro added the comment: Took me a while to notice the -i flag to regrtest.py. I think that solves my particular problem, so I will close this. Is there a place to see how 'make test' is run on the buildbots? -- stage: -> resolved status: open ->

[issue45714] test_multiprocessing_spawn hangs sometimes

New submission from Skip Montanaro : I find that test_multiprocessing_spawn frequently hangs. Hitting Ctl-C then rerunning "make test" generally works. Still, this behavior makes it problematic to run testing unattended. I don't think I have an unusual environment (XUbuntu 20.04,

[issue45638] Does ccbench still require 2.6 compatibility?

Skip Montanaro added the comment: CCbench was mentioned recently in the discussion about Sam Gross's nogil branch: https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-...@python.org/message/WRT7F2RHHCQ3N2TYEDC6JSIJ4T2ZM6F7/ I'm not convinced that deleting it is a no-brainer. Maybe if it landed

[issue45669] An 'ascii_alphanumerics' variable is missing in the 'strings' lib

Skip Montanaro added the comment: I'll be the wet blanket here and say -1. This doesn't seem at all necessary. 81 occurrences in ~3.5k PyPI packages? That's a hardly overwhelming endorsement. To top it off, since this can't be backported to 3.10 and earlier, it creates a needless (trivial

[issue45638] Does ccbench still require 2.6 compatibility?

New submission from Skip Montanaro : At the top of Tools/ccbench/ccbench.py is this comment dating from 2010 (probably in the initial version): # This file should be kept compatible with both Python 2.6 and Python >= 3.0. Is there still a need for 2.6 compatibility in what is essentia

Re: Package conflicts trying to install jpegdupes package

Woo hoo! It's installed. The ultimate error was a missing turbojpeg.h file. Thank goodness for the apt-file command. I was able to track that down to the libturbojpeg0-dev package, install that, and after a bit more fussing around now have jpegdupes installed. Thanks for the help, Skip -- https

Re: Package conflicts trying to install jpegdupes package

arning messages, but colorizing might have been suppressed by stderr being fed into a pipe, or by distutils tossing it out. Skip -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Package conflicts trying to install jpegdupes package

ightforward dedupe program, but need something which can compare just the data chunk of JPEGs, ignoring the metadata. This program apparently does that. Is like to avoid reinventing that wheel. Skip -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Package conflicts trying to install jpegdupes package

m kind of stuck. Maybe I need to install Python 3.3 and try that? Any other ideas? Thx, Skip -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

[issue23041] csv needs more quoting rules

Skip Montanaro added the comment: Update version - too late for anything older than 3.11. -- versions: -Python 3.10, Python 3.6, Python 3.7, Python 3.8, Python 3.9 ___ Python tracker <https://bugs.python.org/issue23

Track 3.9 instead of 3.10?

conflicts. Is there some way to do this totally within the git infrastructure? Thx, Skip -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

[issue43941] Unit test failure in test_gdb only with -O0

Skip Montanaro added the comment: Unfortunately, I'm currently not able to build Python 3.8, 3.9 or 3.10 and get a non-failing test_gdb. I'll mess around a bit more, but I'm skeptical I'll find something simple. (I wonder if something changed in GDB which is causing the failure

[issue43941] Unit test failure in test_gdb only with -O0

Skip Montanaro added the comment: I routinely build with -O0 and have been getting test_gdb failures building the 3.10 branch. I tried adding -g3 to my configure flags: nice ./configure OPT="-O0 -g3 -Wall" --with-pydebug --with-trace-refs but test_gdb still fails. Output atta

[issue43625] CSV has_headers heuristic could be improved

Skip Montanaro added the comment: Here's a NEWS entry. -- Added file: https://bugs.python.org/file50132/2021-06-29-07-27-08.bpo-43625.ZlAxhp.rst ___ Python tracker <https://bugs.python.org/issue43

[issue43625] CSV has_headers heuristic could be improved

Skip Montanaro added the comment: Here is a change to the has_header documentation and an extra test case documenting the behavior when the sample contains strings. I'm not sure about the wording of the doc change, perhaps you can tweak it? Seems kind of clumsy to me. If it seems okay

[issue43625] CSV has_headers heuristic could be improved

Skip Montanaro added the comment: I retract my comment about fixed length strings in the non-numeric case. There are clearly test cases (which I probably wrote, considering the values) where the sample as a header but the values are of varying length. Misread of the code on my part. I have

[issue43625] CSV has_headers heuristic could be improved

Skip Montanaro added the comment: Thanks @andrei.avk. You are right, only the complex test is required. I suppose it's okay to commit this, but reviewing the full code of the has_header method leaves me thinking this is just putting lipstick on a pig. If I read the code correctly

[issue23041] csv needs more quoting rules

Skip Montanaro added the comment: Ugh... s/QUOTE_NONNULL/QUOTE_NOTNULL/ Not, Non, None... Perl would treat them all the same, right? -- ___ Python tracker <https://bugs.python.org/issue23

[issue23041] csv needs more quoting rules

Skip Montanaro added the comment: Missed tweaking a couple settings. -- resolution: rejected -> stage: resolved -> needs patch versions: +Python 3.11 -Python 3.8 ___ Python tracker <https://bugs.python.org/i

[issue23041] csv needs more quoting rules

Skip Montanaro added the comment: Okay, I'll reopen this, at least for the discussion of QUOTE_NONNULL. @erdnaxeli please given an example of how PostgreSQL distinguishes between the empty string and None cases. Is it a quoted empty string vs an empty field? If so, modifying @samwyse's

Re: imaplib: is this really so unwieldy?

things came together pretty quickly, due in large part, I think, to its more sane API. YMMV, but you're more than welcome to steal code from Polly. Skip -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

[issue44058] 'master' refs in 3.10 version of .azure-pipelines

Skip Montanaro added the comment: Perhaps I should point out that this doesn't matter to me. I just noticed the old name. I can't claim anything is broken that I need. -- ___ Python tracker <https://bugs.python.org/issue44

Re: Bloody rubbish

idn't use an assembler either. We just wrote raw opcodes and their arguments on paper. This was in the late 70s.) Skip > -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list

to Mailman 3. I'm sure Mark Sapiro and other Mailman maintainers would like to keep moving away from Mailman 2. If the gateway (easier anonymity) and Mailman 3 (maybe better list archives) are of interest to you, you might check in with the Mailman dev list and see what would be involved in porting the

[issue44060] Define TARGET macro the same even when computed goto support is not enabled

Change by Skip Montanaro : -- keywords: +patch pull_requests: +24612 stage: -> patch review pull_request: https://github.com/python/cpython/pull/25949 ___ Python tracker <https://bugs.python.org/issu

[issue44060] Define TARGET macro the same even when computed goto support is not enabled

New submission from Skip Montanaro : When the interpreter is compiled with computed goto support, the TARGET macro is defined like this: #define TARGET(op) op: TARGET_##op If computed gotos are disabled, the implementation is simpler: #define TARGET(op) op I'm finding it useful to use those

[issue44058] 'master' refs in 3.10 version of .azure-pipelines

New submission from Skip Montanaro : Should these references to "master" be changed to "main"? % git co 3.10 Switched to branch '3.10' Your branch is up to date with 'origin/3.10'. % egrep master .azure-pipelines/* .azure-pipelines/ci.yml:trigger: ['master', '3.10', '3.9',

Re: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list

ering for people thinking about whether or not to disconnect the two. (I have no opinion on that subject. Clearly others do.) Skip -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Proposal: Disconnect comp.lang.python from python-list

org. Posts gated from comp.lang.python to the mailing list only get passed through SpamBayes. All other elements of the tool chain occur ahead of the gateway. If we are using two different definitions of "moderation" I think it is important to be clear what we mean. Skip -- https://mail.p

[issue41111] [C API] Convert a few stdlib extensions to the limited C API (PEP 384)

Skip Montanaro added the comment: > > Skip: By the way, I'm curious, why do you use --with-trace-refs? > I'm still horsing around with register opcodes and got in the habit of building with pydebug and trace refs enabled. -- ___ Pytho

Re: About \033[m

I think it will work as you expect.) Skip -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

[issue41111] [C API] Convert a few stdlib extensions to the limited C API (PEP 384)

Skip Montanaro added the comment: I should revise that comment. The xxlimited and xxlimited_35 modules fail to build. That seems suboptimal, but perhaps is to be expected. Perhaps it would be better that compiling them not be attempted with configuring --with-trace-refs

[issue41111] [C API] Convert a few stdlib extensions to the limited C API (PEP 384)

Skip Montanaro added the comment: The latest commit seems to break the build if configured --with-trace-refs. -- nosy: +skip.montanaro ___ Python tracker <https://bugs.python.org/issue41

Re: Code Formatter Questions

that I wouldn't use a batch formatter to conform to some other conventions, then wind up having a mixed set of conventions after my next edit. I presume vim and all IDEs worth their salt also do a suitable job of formatting code on-the-fly. Skip -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

[issue43627] What are the requirements for a test_sundry-testable script in Tools/scripts?

Change by Skip Montanaro : -- title: What are the requirements for a test_sunry-testable script in Tools/scripts? -> What are the requirements for a test_sundry-testable script in Tools/scripts? ___ Python tracker <https://bugs.pyth

[issue43625] CSV has_headers heuristic could be improved

Skip Montanaro added the comment: I assume the OP is referring to this sort of usage: >>> sniffer = csv.Sniffer() >>> raw = open("mixed.csv").read() >>> sniffer.has_header(raw) False *sigh* I really wish the Sniffer class had never been added to the

[issue43627] What are the requirements for a test_sunry-testable script in Tools/scripts?

New submission from Skip Montanaro : In my fork of python/cpython I recently created a simple script to help me with my work (I am messing around in the internals and sometimes get blindsided by opcode changes). I stuck the script in Tools/script which caused test_tools.test_sundry to hang

Re: [Python-ideas] Looking for people interested in a Python register virtual machine project

very well in the "PEP". > > Well, it seems to be written with an idea that a reader is already > familiar with the benefits of register-based VMs. As a fresh reader, I > tried to point out that fact. I also happen to be familiar with those > benefits, and the fact that "on

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