On 12/16/2011 8:26 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 17:05:57 -0500, Terry Reedy wrote:
It is am important distinction [unbound versus bound]
It is not an important distinction, and I am not confusing the two.
So we agree on the distinction but disagree on its importance.
On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 19:39:17 -0500, Terry Reedy wrote:
[...]
After reading your post, I think I have worked out where our disagreement
lines: you think that bound methods and instance methods are not the same
thing, and that a function defined inside a class is different from a
function
On 12/16/2011 4:22 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 19:39:17 -0500, Terry Reedy wrote:
[...]
After reading your post, I think I have worked out where our disagreement
lines: you think that bound methods and instance methods are not the same
thing,
Do you agree that an unbound
Terry Reedy wrote:
On 12/16/2011 4:22 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 19:39:17 -0500, Terry Reedy wrote:
[...]
After reading your post, I think I have worked out where our disagreement
lies: you think that bound methods and instance methods are not the same
thing,
Do you agree
Ethan Furman wrote:
Terry Reedy wrote:
On 12/16/2011 4:22 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 19:39:17 -0500, Terry Reedy wrote:
[...]
After reading your post, I think I have worked out where our
disagreement
lies: you think that bound methods and instance methods are not the
On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 17:05:57 -0500, Terry Reedy wrote:
On 12/16/2011 4:22 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 19:39:17 -0500, Terry Reedy wrote: [...]
After reading your post, I think I have worked out where our
disagreement lines: you think that bound methods and instance methods
On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 15:26:30 -0800, Ethan Furman wrote:
Terry Reedy wrote:
On 12/16/2011 4:22 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
[...]
I think you two are in violent agreement as far as how Python is
functioning, and the conflict is in the names given to the various
pieces... I think a glossary
On Dec 14, 9:01 pm, Steven D'Aprano steve
+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote:
[...]
So what are methods? In Python, methods are wrappers around functions
which automatically pass the instance to the inner function object. Under
normal circumstances, you create methods by declaring functions
MRAB wrote:
To give an analogy, it is like defining mammals as hairy animals which
give birth to live young, which is correct for all mammals except for
monotremes, which are mammals which lay eggs.
Or the naked mole-rat. Or cetaceans (whales).
The way I understand it, the main
On 12/15/2011 12:01 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 18:13:36 -0500, Terry Reedy wrote:
On 12/14/2011 3:01 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 01:29:13 -0500, Terry Reedy wrote:
To complement what Eric says below: The with statement is looking for
an instance
On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 05:35:55 -0800, Steve Howell wrote:
For the special methods like __enter__ and __exit__, the tricky part
isn't understanding what would happen once the methods were called; the
tricky part is getting them to be called in the first place, if they
were not declared inside
On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 01:29:13 -0500, Terry Reedy wrote:
To complement what Eric says below: The with statement is looking for an
instance *method*, which by definition, is a function attribute of a
*class* (the class of the context manager) that takes an instance of the
class as its first
Steve Howell wrote:
I'm using Python 3.2.2, and the following program gives me an error
that I don't understand:
class Foo:
pass
foo = Foo()
foo.name = Steve
def add_goodbye_function(obj):
def goodbye():
print(goodbye + obj.name)
obj.goodbye = goodbye
On Wednesday, December 14, 2011 4:01:24 PM UTC+8, Steven D#39;Aprano wrote:
On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 01:29:13 -0500, Terry Reedy wrote:
To complement what Eric says below: The with statement is looking for an
instance *method*, which by definition, is a function attribute of a
*class* (the
On Thursday, December 15, 2011 12:08:32 AM UTC+8, 8 Dihedral wrote:
On Wednesday, December 14, 2011 4:01:24 PM UTC+8, Steven D#39;Aprano wrote:
On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 01:29:13 -0500, Terry Reedy wrote:
To complement what Eric says below: The with statement is looking for an
instance
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 11:05 PM, Eric Snow ericsnowcurren...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 10:42 PM, Steve Howell showel...@yahoo.com wrote:
I'm using Python 3.2.2, and the following program gives me an error
that I don't understand:
class Foo:
pass
foo = Foo()
foo.name =
On Dec 14, 12:01 am, Steven D'Aprano steve
+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote:
[...]
So the normal lookup rules that apply to data attributes, namely
instance, then class, then superclasses, also applies to methods in
Python. In languages that don't allow that sort of thing, like Java, you
On 12/15/2011 03:56 AM, Eric Snow wrote:
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 11:05 PM, Eric Snowericsnowcurren...@gmail.com wrote:
If you want to be more dynamic about it you can do it, but it involves
black magic. Chances are really good that being explicit through your
class definition is the right
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 12:14 PM, Lie Ryan lie.1...@gmail.com wrote:
On 12/15/2011 03:56 AM, Eric Snow wrote:
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 11:05 PM, Eric Snowericsnowcurren...@gmail.com
wrote:
If you want to be more dynamic about it you can do it, but it involves
black magic. Chances are
On 12/14/2011 3:01 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 01:29:13 -0500, Terry Reedy wrote:
To complement what Eric says below: The with statement is looking for an
instance *method*, which by definition, is a function attribute of a
*class* (the class of the context manager) that
On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 18:13:36 -0500, Terry Reedy wrote:
On 12/14/2011 3:01 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 01:29:13 -0500, Terry Reedy wrote:
To complement what Eric says below: The with statement is looking for
an instance *method*, which by definition, is a function attribute
On 15/12/2011 05:01, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 18:13:36 -0500, Terry Reedy wrote:
On 12/14/2011 3:01 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 01:29:13 -0500, Terry Reedy wrote:
To complement what Eric says below: The with statement is looking for
an instance
On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 05:15:58 +, MRAB wrote:
On 15/12/2011 05:01, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 18:13:36 -0500, Terry Reedy wrote:
On 12/14/2011 3:01 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 01:29:13 -0500, Terry Reedy wrote:
To complement what Eric says below: The
On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 05:01:21 +, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
From the Python glossary:
method: A function which is defined inside a class body.
That is actually a bit too narrow, as a function can be added to the
class after it is defined. But the point then is that it is treated as
if
I'm using Python 3.2.2, and the following program gives me an error
that I don't understand:
class Foo:
pass
foo = Foo()
foo.name = Steve
def add_goodbye_function(obj):
def goodbye():
print(goodbye + obj.name)
obj.goodbye = goodbye
add_goodbye_function(foo)
foo.goodbye() # outputs
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 10:42 PM, Steve Howell showel...@yahoo.com wrote:
I'm using Python 3.2.2, and the following program gives me an error
that I don't understand:
class Foo:
pass
foo = Foo()
foo.name = Steve
def add_goodbye_function(obj):
def goodbye():
print(goodbye +
On 12/14/2011 1:05 AM, Eric Snow wrote:
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 10:42 PM, Steve Howellshowel...@yahoo.com wrote:
I'm using Python 3.2.2, and the following program gives me an error
that I don't understand:
class Foo:
pass
foo = Foo()
foo.name = Steve
def add_goodbye_function(obj):
def
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