Re: Complementary language?

On Sat, 1 Jan 2005 09:35:32 + (UTC), Alan Gauld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 18:40:31 -0500, HackingYodel > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello all! I'm learning to program at home. I can't imagine a better > > language than Python for this. The ideal situation, for me,

Re: Complementary language?

On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 18:40:31 -0500, HackingYodel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello all! I'm learning to program at home. I can't imagine a better > language than Python for this. The ideal situation, for me, would be to > study two languages at the same time. Probably sounds crazy, but it >

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HackingYodel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Does any single language do a better job in > Python's weaker areas? Would anyone care to suggest one to supplement > Python. My first real OO language was Smalltalk. But the existing Smalltalk implementations all have some severe shortcomings. Either

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In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Martelli) wrote: > Robin Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Alex Martelli wrote: > > . > > > > > > If you're looking for SERIOUS multiparadigmaticity, I think Oz may be > > > best -- (t

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Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Martelli) writes: > > > Objective-C is cool... on the Mac; I'm not sure how well-supported it is > > elsewhere, though. In addition to C's advantages, it would let you make > > Cocoa GUIs on the Mac easily (with PyObjC &c). But the

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Martelli) writes: > Objective-C is cool... on the Mac; I'm not sure how well-supported it is > elsewhere, though. In addition to C's advantages, it would let you make > Cocoa GUIs on the Mac easily (with PyObjC &c). But then, the right way > to study Obj-C from scratch is

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Alex Martelli ha scritto: Nolo contendere (not having looked much into Alice yet), but are there stand-alone didactical materials for Alice as there are for Oz? > It > seemed to me that the available materials for Alice basically take SML > somewhat for granted, while Oz does come with tutorials

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Thanks for all the suggestions! I'm going to investigate all of them as time allows. I must say that Eiffel would most certainly expand my mind. My initial reaction, when looking at a "Hello World!" program, was "No way!". I had just read some of SICP and "Pascal is for building pyramids ­ impos

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Alex Martelli wrote: Robin Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: . Well your utility function seems to be related to "learn more approaches to programming". Which part of "if" do you find hard to parse? no part I suspect there may be some programming language measure which would push really hig

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In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Robin Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: . . . >interesting, but not unique features. From the outside it seems >difficult to say whether say "distributed programming" is uniquely >easily imple

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gabriele renzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The mozart/Oz platform have a stronger point on stuff like > constraint/logic/declarative concurren/etc programming, more than most > of the CL frameworks (not that this is hard in CL, it's just not as > central as in Oz). Btw, I think AliceML (which

Re: Complementary language?

Robin Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... > >>>If you're looking for SERIOUS multiparadigmaticity, I think Oz may be ... > > Hmmm, I'm not sure how to parse this question. Robert Kern claimed: > > "You could very easily learn more approaches to programming through > > Common Lisp than thre

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Robert Kern wrote: >If you do numeric calculations, learning just enough FORTRAN to do loops >and math can be quite useful. I find that F2PY makes writing FORTRAN >subroutines for numerical calculations over Numeric arrays much easier >than C. I agree with this and would add that Fortran, from th

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Alex Martelli wrote: Robin Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Alex Martelli wrote: . If you're looking for SERIOUS multiparadigmaticity, I think Oz may be best -- (the book's authors critique the vagueness of the "paradigm" concept, and prefer "m

Re: Complementary language?

Robin Becker ha scritto: Alex Martelli wrote: . If you're looking for SERIOUS multiparadigmaticity, I think Oz may be best -- (the book's authors critique the vagueness of the "paradigm" concept, and prefer "model", but that's much the same thing

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Robin Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Alex Martelli wrote: > . > > > > If you're looking for SERIOUS multiparadigmaticity, I think Oz may be > > best -- (the book's > > authors critique the vagueness of the "paradigm" concept, and prefer >

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Alex Martelli wrote: . If you're looking for SERIOUS multiparadigmaticity, I think Oz may be best -- (the book's authors critique the vagueness of the "paradigm" concept, and prefer "model", but that's much the same thing). according to the langu

Re: Complementary language?

HackingYodel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hello all! I'm learning to program at home. I can't imagine a better > language than Python for this. The ideal situation, for me, would be > to study two languages at the same time. It's less a matter of languages, than ways of approaching problems.

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Robert Kern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Common Lisp might be a good one to learn. It's even more > "multi-paradigm" than Python. You could very easily learn more > approaches to programming through Common Lisp than three other > languages. This book[2] looks promising. If you're looking for S

Re: Complementary language?

HackingYodel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello all! I'm learning to program at home. I can't imagine a better > language than Python for this. The ideal situation, for me, would be to > study two languages at the same time. Probably sounds crazy, but it > works out better for me. Being a ne

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Re: Complementary language?

"HackingYodel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Hello all! I'm learning to program at home. I can't imagine a better > language than Python for this. The ideal situation, for me, would be to > study two languages at the same time. Probably sounds crazy, but it > wo

Re: Complementary language?

HackingYodel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hello all! I'm learning to program at home. I can't imagine a better > language than Python for this. The ideal situation, for me, would be > to study two languages at the same time. Probably sounds crazy, but > it works out better for me. Being a ne

Re: Complementary language?

HackingYodel wrote: Hello all! I'm learning to program at home. I can't imagine a better language than Python for this. The ideal situation, for me, would be to study two languages at the same time. Probably sounds crazy, but it works out better for me. Being a newbie, I find almost all lan

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At home I almost use python exclusively, the other two languages I can be productive is C# and C++, I chose C# because I am a Windows programmer (don't throw tomato at me, I am no troll..) and I choose C++ because the algorithm was implemented in this dialect in school. -- http://mail.python.org/

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I'm a big fan of C# myself, it kinda takes the good from C++ and Java and combines them in a way. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Complementary language?

HackingYodel wrote: Hello all! I'm learning to program at home. I can't imagine a better language than Python for this. The ideal situation, for me, would be to study two languages at the same time. Probably sounds crazy, but it works out better for me. Being a newbie, I find almost all lan

Complementary language?

Hello all! I'm learning to program at home. I can't imagine a better language than Python for this. The ideal situation, for me, would be to study two languages at the same time. Probably sounds crazy, but it works out better for me. Being a newbie, I find almost all languages fascinating.