On 2013-07-12, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jul 2013 09:45:33 -0400, Roy Smith wrote:
In article 2fdf282e-fd28-4ba3-8c83-ce120...@googlegroups.com,
jus...@zeusedit.com wrote:
On Wednesday, July 10, 2013 2:17:12 PM UTC+10, Xue Fuqiao wrote:
* It is especially handy for
On Fri, 12 Jul 2013 18:34:30 -0400, Dennis Lee Bieber
wlfr...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
Sounds like you might have liked an accessory I had on my Amiga.
Basically a proportional joystick feeding an interface box which
converted
the position value into a sequence of mouse movements --
In article 2fdf282e-fd28-4ba3-8c83-ce120...@googlegroups.com,
jus...@zeusedit.com wrote:
On Wednesday, July 10, 2013 2:17:12 PM UTC+10, Xue Fuqiao wrote:
* It is especially handy for selecting and deleting text.
When coding I never use a mouse to select text regions or to delete
Roy Smith r...@panix.com writes:
This is why I never understood the attraction of something like
xemacs, where you use the mouse to make text selections and run
commands out of menus.
Menus are good for learning the functionality, and you have them just as
much in Gnu emacs as in xemacs. You
On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 1:42 AM, Paul Rudin paul.nos...@rudin.co.uk wrote:
Text selection with a mouse is a different thing. Sometimes it's
more convenient, sometimes it's not.
As screens get larger and the amount of text on them increases, it's
likely to get more and more useful to use a
On Thu, 11 Jul 2013 09:45:33 -0400, Roy Smith wrote:
In article 2fdf282e-fd28-4ba3-8c83-ce120...@googlegroups.com,
jus...@zeusedit.com wrote:
On Wednesday, July 10, 2013 2:17:12 PM UTC+10, Xue Fuqiao wrote:
* It is especially handy for selecting and deleting text.
When coding I
On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Steven D'Aprano
steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote:
Big deal. I am utterly unconvinced that raw typing speed is even close to
a bottleneck when programming. Data entry and transcribing from (say)
dictated text, yes. Coding, not unless you are a
On Fri, 12 Jul 2013 01:50:17 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 1:42 AM, Paul Rudin paul.nos...@rudin.co.uk
wrote:
Text selection with a mouse is a different thing. Sometimes it's more
convenient, sometimes it's not.
As screens get larger and the amount of text on them
On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 2:24 PM, Steven D'Aprano
steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote:
On Fri, 12 Jul 2013 01:50:17 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 1:42 AM, Paul Rudin paul.nos...@rudin.co.uk
wrote:
Text selection with a mouse is a different thing. Sometimes it's
On Fri, 12 Jul 2013 00:24:26 -0400, Steven D'Aprano
steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote:
Frankly, nothing comes even close to a real mouse for feedback and ease
of use. Maybe a stylus. But that's it.
before tremors, I would agree with you. Stylus is amazingly good tool for
user
On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Giorgos Tzampanakis
giorgos.tzampana...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2013-07-06, Skip Montanaro wrote:
* movement between the mouse and the keyboard
Avoid at all costs. Use an editor that never needs the mouse (emacs or
vim).
I don't use vim often, but for Emacs, I
On Wednesday, July 10, 2013 2:17:12 PM UTC+10, Xue Fuqiao wrote:
* It is especially handy for selecting and deleting text.
When coding I never use a mouse to select text regions or to delete text.
These operations I do using just the keyboard.
--
On 2013-07-09, Jason Friedman jsf80...@gmail.com wrote:
I am right-handed and use a lefty-mouse about 50% of the time.
It was difficult at first, now I'm almost as fast lefty as
righty. As has been stated by others, changing the muscles
being used reduces the impact on any one of them.
That's
On 7/9/2013 8:12 AM, Neil Cerutti wrote:
On 2013-07-09, Jason Friedman jsf80...@gmail.com wrote:
I am right-handed and use a lefty-mouse about 50% of the time.
It was difficult at first, now I'm almost as fast lefty as
righty. As has been stated by others, changing the muscles
being used
On 2013-07-06, Skip Montanaro wrote:
More likely, rms ignored the problem and had bad personal ergomonics:
ignorance or lack of understanding of the problem, poor posture,
wrists not in a neutral position, lack of breaks, etc. If you stop to
think about it, all text editors probably present
On Sun, 07 Jul 2013 22:34:46 -0700, jussij wrote:
On Sunday, July 7, 2013 12:41:02 PM UTC+10, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
I am not an ergonomic expert, but I understand that moving from mouse
to keyboard actually helps prevent RSI, because it slows down the rate
of keystrokes and uses different
On Sat, 06 Jul 2013 16:04:00 +0100, rusi rustompm...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, July 6, 2013 7:40:39 PM UTC+5:30, Skip Montanaro wrote:
* a lot of typing,
* use of modifier keys (ctrl, alt, command, etc)
* movement between the mouse and the keyboard
My own experience: The second 2 are the
I am right-handed and use a lefty-mouse about 50% of the time.
It was difficult at first, now I'm almost as fast lefty as righty.
As has been stated by others, changing the muscles being used reduces the
impact on any one of them.
--
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On Sunday, July 7, 2013 12:41:02 PM UTC+10, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
I am not an ergonomic expert, but I understand that moving from mouse to
keyboard actually helps prevent RSI, because it slows down the rate of
keystrokes and uses different muscle groups.
After 20+ years of coding using the
The fact that rms has crippling RSI should indicate that
emacs' ergonomics is not right.
Kind of a small sample size, don't you think? Hopefully we can kill
this meme that Emacs is somehow worse for your wrists than other text
editors before it goes any further than your one unsupported
On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 12:10 AM, Skip Montanaro s...@pobox.com wrote:
If you stop to
think about it, all text editors probably present similar issues for
their users. They all involve:
* a lot of typing,
* use of modifier keys (ctrl, alt, command, etc)
* movement between the mouse and the
On Saturday, July 6, 2013 7:40:39 PM UTC+5:30, Skip Montanaro wrote:
The fact that rms has crippling RSI should indicate that
emacs' ergonomics is not right.
Kind of a small sample size, don't you think? Hopefully we can kill
this meme that Emacs is somehow worse for your wrists than other
On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 9:04 AM, rusi rustompm...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, July 6, 2013 7:40:39 PM UTC+5:30, Skip Montanaro wrote:
The fact that rms has crippling RSI should indicate that
emacs' ergonomics is not right.
Kind of a small sample size, don't you think? Hopefully we can kill
On Sat, 06 Jul 2013 09:10:39 -0500, Skip Montanaro wrote:
The fact that rms has crippling RSI should indicate that emacs'
ergonomics is not right.
Kind of a small sample size, don't you think?
Yes, but RMS is worth 1000 ordinary programmers!!!
*wink*
[...]
More likely, rms ignored the
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