On Tuesday, July 17, 2012 12:39:53 PM UTC-7, Mark Lawrence wrote:
I would like to spend more time on this thread, but unfortunately the 44
ton artic carrying Java in a Nutshell Volume 1 Part 1 Chapter 1
Paragraph 1 Sentence 1 has just arrived outside my abode and needs
unloading :-)
That
On 19/08/2012 06:21, Robert Miles wrote:
On 7/23/2012 11:18 AM, Albert van der Horst wrote:
In article 5006b48a$0$29978$c3e8da3$54964...@news.astraweb.com,
Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote:
SNIP.
Even with a break, why bother continuing through the body of the
On 19/08/12 09:55, Mark Lawrence wrote:
On 19/08/2012 06:21, Robert Miles wrote:
On 7/23/2012 11:18 AM, Albert van der Horst wrote:
In article 5006b48a$0$29978$c3e8da3$54964...@news.astraweb.com,
Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote:
[snip]
that functions must only
On 19/08/2012 12:50, lipska the kat wrote:
On 19/08/12 09:55, Mark Lawrence wrote:
On 19/08/2012 06:21, Robert Miles wrote:
On 7/23/2012 11:18 AM, Albert van der Horst wrote:
In article 5006b48a$0$29978$c3e8da3$54964...@news.astraweb.com,
Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info
On 7/23/2012 11:18 AM, Albert van der Horst wrote:
In article 5006b48a$0$29978$c3e8da3$54964...@news.astraweb.com,
Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote:
SNIP.
Even with a break, why bother continuing through the body of the function
when you already have the result? When
In article 5006b48a$0$29978$c3e8da3$54964...@news.astraweb.com,
Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote:
SNIP.
Even with a break, why bother continuing through the body of the function
when you already have the result? When your calculation is done, it's
done, just return for
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 2:18 AM, Albert van der Horst
alb...@spenarnc.xs4all.nl wrote:
Example from recipee's:
Stirr until the egg white is stiff.
Alternative:
Stirr egg white for half an hour,
but if the egg white is stiff keep your spoon still.
(Cooking is not my field of expertise, so
In article oc-dnuqkg91pgpbnnz2dnuvz5vgdn...@giganews.com,
Erik Max Francis m...@alcyone.com wrote:
SNIP
Anything's trivial to write down. Just say the number such that ...
and you've written it down. Even numbers that aren't really numbers,
such as transfinite cardinals!
Now it isn't trivial
On 07/20/2012 02:05 AM, Virgil Stokes wrote:
On 20-Jul-2012 10:27, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
The fellow looked relived and said Oh thank god, I thought you said
*million*!
How does this relate to the python list?
It's also a seriously old joke.
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On 07/20/2012 03:28 AM, BartC wrote:
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On 07/20/2012 01:11 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 13:50:36 -0500, Tim Chase wrote:
I'm reminded of Graham's Number, which is so
On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 09:06:45 -0400, Roy Smith wrote:
Heh. This reminds me of one of my current pet peeves. I've run across
documentation for more than one Python project (django is the one that
comes to mind, but I'm sure there's others) which misuse words like
set and list. They're often
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 3:01 PM, John Gordon gor...@panix.com wrote:
In mailman.2317.1342730879.4697.python-l...@python.org Dennis Lee Bieber
wlfr...@ix.netcom.com writes:
Sure it terminates...If you don't run out of RAM to represent the
number i in question, there's also this heat death
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 5:01 PM, John Gordon gor...@panix.com wrote:
Since the current evidence indicates the universe will just keep
expanding, it's more of a deep freeze death...
Heat death means *lack* of heat.
But it doesn't mean low temperature! The term is agnostic as to what
the
On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 13:50:36 -0500, Tim Chase wrote:
On 07/19/12 13:28, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 4:20 AM, Tim Chase
python.l...@tim.thechases.com wrote:
Sure it terminates...If you don't run out of RAM to represent the
number i in question, there's also this heat death
On Fri, 20 Jul 2012 08:20:57 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
Since the current evidence indicates the universe will just keep
expanding, it's more of a deep freeze death...
Heat death means *lack* of heat.
The second law of thermodynamics states that energy tends to go from
higher
On 19/07/2012 22:13, Ian Kelly wrote:
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 3:01 PM, John Gordon gor...@panix.com wrote:
In mailman.2317.1342730879.4697.python-l...@python.org Dennis Lee Bieber
wlfr...@ix.netcom.com writes:
Sure it terminates...If you don't run out of RAM to represent the
number i in
On 07/20/2012 01:11 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 13:50:36 -0500, Tim Chase wrote:
On 07/19/12 13:28, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 4:20 AM, Tim Chase
python.l...@tim.thechases.com wrote:
Sure it terminates...If you don't run out of RAM to represent the
On 20-Jul-2012 10:27, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jul 2012 08:20:57 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
Since the current evidence indicates the universe will just keep
expanding, it's more of a deep freeze death...
Heat death means *lack* of heat.
The second law of thermodynamics
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On 07/20/2012 01:11 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 13:50:36 -0500, Tim Chase wrote:
I'm reminded of Graham's Number, which is so large that there aren't
enough molecules
On 20/07/12 11:05:09, Virgil Stokes wrote:
On 20-Jul-2012 10:27, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jul 2012 08:20:57 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
Since the current evidence indicates the universe will just
keep
expanding, it's more of a deep freeze death...
Heat death means *lack* of
On Jul 19, 6:34 am, Steven D'Aprano steve
+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote:
On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 15:40:00 +0100, Lipska the Kat wrote:
Object Oriented programming is all about encapsulating human concepts in
a way that makes sense to human beings. Make no mistake, it is NEVER the
case
On 7/18/2012 10:40 AM, Lipska the Kat wrote:
fact ... and I have never been forced to admit that I don't know what I
wrote six months ago.
That is an explicit objective of Python's design.
Python looks like an interesting language and I will certainly spend
time getting to know it but at
On 19/07/12 07:09, rusi wrote:
On Jul 19, 6:34 am, Steven D'Apranosteve
+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote:
On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 15:40:00 +0100, Lipska the Kat wrote:
Object Oriented programming is all about encapsulating human concepts in
a way that makes sense to human beings. Make no
On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 23:09:13 -0700, rusi wrote:
Its not so much a question of language as in programming as language as
in layman-speak.
One characteristic with our field is that we take ordinary words and
then distort them so much the original meaning is completely lost.
All technical
In article 500804cc$0$29978$c3e8da3$54964...@news.astraweb.com,
Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote:
On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 23:09:13 -0700, rusi wrote:
Its not so much a question of language as in programming as language as
in layman-speak.
One characteristic with
On Jul 19, 1:56 pm, Lipska the Kat lip...@lipskathekat.com wrote:
Academic twiddling with the distorted meaning of words spun by
vested interests is all very interesting I'm sure but doesn't really
advance the discussion does it?
Well lets back up the discussion a bit. You coming from a Java
Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info writes:
For example, both ML and Haskell can, under some circumstances, report a
type-error for an infinite loop, *at compile time*.
... and in Charity all programs are guaranteed to terminate. Of course
it's not Turing complete.
If you think that people can routinely detect infinite loops, then
perhaps you would care to tell me whether this is an infinite loop or not:
i = 1
while not is_perfect(i):
i += 2
print odd perfect number discovered
where is_perfect() returns True if the integer argument is
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 4:20 AM, Tim Chase
python.l...@tim.thechases.com wrote:
Sure it terminates...If you don't run out of RAM to represent the
number i in question, there's also this heat death of the
universe limit I keep hearing about ;-)
I'd be more worried about the heat death of your
On 07/19/12 13:28, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 4:20 AM, Tim Chase
python.l...@tim.thechases.com wrote:
Sure it terminates...If you don't run out of RAM to represent the
number i in question, there's also this heat death of the
universe limit I keep hearing about ;-)
I'd
In mailman.2317.1342730879.4697.python-l...@python.org Dennis Lee Bieber
wlfr...@ix.netcom.com writes:
Sure it terminates...If you don't run out of RAM to represent the
number i in question, there's also this heat death of the
universe limit I keep hearing about ;-)
Since the
MRAB wrote:
Thus spake the Lord: Thou shalt indent with four spaces. No
more, no less.
Four shall be the number of spaces thou shalt indent, and the
number of thy indenting shall be four. Eight shalt thou not indent,
nor either indent thou
two, excepting that thou then proceed to four. Tabs
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 7:01 AM, John Gordon gor...@panix.com wrote:
In mailman.2317.1342730879.4697.python-l...@python.org Dennis Lee Bieber
wlfr...@ix.netcom.com writes:
Sure it terminates...If you don't run out of RAM to represent the
number i in question, there's also this heat death
In mailman.2320.1342736459.4697.python-l...@python.org Chris Angelico
ros...@gmail.com writes:
The second law of thermodynamics states that energy tends to go from
higher states to lower, with heat being the very lowest. It's possible
to do work using (say) kinetic energy, and in the process,
On 07/17/2012 04:24 AM, Lipska the Kat wrote:
...
Thanks for your time and I'll try to do a bit better with the reading thing
before asking more
questions... not sure about this obsession with code indentation though :-|
I think it's inaccurate to call this indentation an obsession, it's
On 18/07/12 01:46, Andrew Cooper wrote:
On 17/07/2012 19:36, Lipska the Kat wrote:
On 17/07/12 19:18, Mark Lawrence wrote:
On 17/07/2012 18:29, Ethan Furman wrote:
Terry Reedy wrote:
On 7/17/2012 10:23 AM, Lipska the Kat wrote:
snip
Take for example a Linux system call handler. The
On 17 July 2012 13:01, Lipska the Kat lip...@lipskathekat.com wrote:
Well I've set myself a task.
I have a text file containing a list of stock items
each line contains the number in stock followed by a tab followed by the
name of the item. I need to implement something that reads in the text
Am 18.07.2012 11:06, schrieb Lipska the Kat:
On 18/07/12 01:46, Andrew Cooper wrote:
Take for example a Linux system call handler. The general form looks a
little like (substituting C for python style pseudocode)
if not (you are permitted to do this):
return -EPERM
if not (you've given
On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 12:01:21 +0100, Lipska the Kat wrote:
For the past 9 years I have been developing in Java
[...]
Anyway, I'm looking at Python as a rapid prototyping language. I have an
idea and just want to get it down in basic outline code as quickly as
possible before it departs my
On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 09:52:59 -0400, Roy Smith wrote:
you could write in Python:
# Type matching will get checked at run-time
def my_function(mpf, ot):
assert isinstance(mpf, MassivelyParallelFrobinator)
assert isinstance(ot, OtherThing)
Keep in mind that assertions are not
On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 01:46:31 +0100, Andrew Cooper wrote:
Take for example a Linux system call handler. The general form looks a
little like (substituting C for python style pseudocode)
if not (you are permitted to do this):
return -EPERM
if not (you've given me some valid data):
In article 5006b2e2$0$29978$c3e8da3$54964...@news.astraweb.com,
Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 09:52:59 -0400, Roy Smith wrote:
you could write in Python:
# Type matching will get checked at run-time
def my_function(mpf, ot):
On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 09:07:22 -0400, Roy Smith wrote:
Keep in mind that assertions are not guaranteed to run. Code like the
above is buggy, because if Python is run under the -O (optimize) flag,
assertions will be stripped out.
One could equally say that code like the above is efficient,
On 2012-07-17, Lipska the Kat lip...@lipskathekat.com wrote:
and what's this obsession with 'correct' indentation of code ???
If you can explain to us Java's obsession with 'correct' placemnt of
curly-braces, then you've explained indentation in python.
Unless you're asking about the tabs vs.
On 18/07/12 14:05, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 01:46:31 +0100, Andrew Cooper wrote:
Take for example a Linux system call handler. The general form looks a
little like (substituting C for python style pseudocode)
if not (you are permitted to do this):
return -EPERM
if not
On 18/07/12 15:34, Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2012-07-17, Lipska the Katlip...@lipskathekat.com wrote:
and what's this obsession with 'correct' indentation of code ???
If you can explain to us Java's obsession with 'correct' placemnt of
curly-braces, then you've explained indentation in
On 7/18/2012 9:34 AM, Grant Edwards wrote:
people who us tabs are wrong
Don't make me get my flamethrower!
and people who mix spaces and tabs -- well, we don't
talk about them in polite company.
Mixing can make sense, but not in Python.
*hides*
--
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On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 12:40 AM, Lipska the Kat
lip...@lipskathekat.com wrote:
Python looks like an interesting language and I will certainly spend time
getting to know it but at the moment it seems to me that calling it an
Object Oriented language is just plain misleading.
Python isn't
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 12:48 AM, Lipska the Kat
lip...@lipskathekat.com wrote:
hmm, I've been using tabs ... still, why use one key press when you can use
4 ;-). Actually I quite like this aspect of Python, it's rapidly growing on
me. Wonder if I could introduce this in a future release of
Lipska the Kat wrote:
On 18/07/12 14:05, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Even with a break, why bother continuing through the body of the function
when you already have the result? When your calculation is done, it's
done, just return for goodness sake. You wouldn't write a search that
keeps going after
On 18/07/12 16:09, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 12:48 AM, Lipska the Kat
lip...@lipskathekat.com wrote:
hmm, I've been using tabs ...
snip
We must meet half way, you know.
Seems reasonable to me, I'll let you suggest it ;-)
As to tab vs spaces: I'm a fan of tabs,
On 18/07/12 16:32, Ethan Furman wrote:
Lipska the Kat wrote:
On 18/07/12 14:05, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Even with a break, why bother continuing through the body of the
function
when you already have the result? When your calculation is done, it's
done, just return for goodness sake. You
On 07/18/2012 08:58 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
SNIP
2) To check your internal reasoning in a function or method.
For example:
def foo(something):
n = len(something)
x = math.sqrt(x)
# We expect that x must be less than half of n.
# E.g. n=100 gives 10 50, which is
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On 18/07/12 01:46, Andrew Cooper wrote:
if not (you are permitted to do this):
return -EPERM
if not (you've given me some valid data):
return -EFAULT
if not (you've given me some
On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 15:48:28 +0100, Lipska the Kat wrote:
On 18/07/12 15:34, Grant Edwards wrote:
Unless you're asking about the tabs vs. spaces argument. In that case,
people who use 4 spaces per level are 'correct'; people who use a
different number of spaces are a bit less correct;
On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 12:33:01 -0400, Dave Angel wrote:
On 07/18/2012 08:58 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
SNIP
For bonus points, can you see the mistake?
[...]
There are actually two bugs in that function. One is in the assertion,
but more importantly, there's a typo earlier. One that would
On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 01:04:50 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
Python isn't object oriented in the way Java is (EVERYTHING has to be
in a class! Look, it's all OO now!).
Actually, Python is more object-oriented than Java. In Python, everything
is an object. We have no distinction between boxed and
On 19/07/2012 02:14, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 15:48:28 +0100, Lipska the Kat wrote:
On 18/07/12 15:34, Grant Edwards wrote:
Unless you're asking about the tabs vs. spaces argument. In that case,
people who use 4 spaces per level are 'correct'; people who use a
different
On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 15:40:00 +0100, Lipska the Kat wrote:
[...]
Even with a break, why bother continuing through the body of the
function when you already have the result? When your calculation is
done, it's done, just return for goodness sake. You wouldn't write a
search that keeps going
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 11:22 AM, Steven D'Aprano
steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 01:04:50 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
Python isn't object oriented in the way Java is (EVERYTHING has to be
in a class! Look, it's all OO now!).
Actually, Python is more
Pythoners
Python 2.7.3
Ubuntu Linux 12.04 LTS
I've been taking a brief look at Python.
From the tutorial documentation I get the following
'Python is an easy to learn, powerful programming language. It has
efficient high-level data structures and a simple but effective approach
to
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 4:45 AM, Lipska the Kat lip...@lipskathekat.com wrote:
Is Python truly OO or is it just one way to use the language. I see some
documentation relating to classes but nothing on instantiation .. in fact
the documentation appears to say that classes are used in a static
Welcome!
Am 17.07.2012 10:45, schrieb Lipska the Kat:
I was expecting (hoping) to see in depth documentation relating to Class
construction, extension mechanisms and runtime polymorphism.
In addition to this forum for direct help and discussion, two
suggestions: Firstly, it could help if you
On 17/07/12 10:30, Ulrich Eckhardt wrote:
Welcome!
Am 17.07.2012 10:45, schrieb Lipska the Kat:
I was expecting (hoping) to see in depth documentation relating to Class
construction, extension mechanisms and runtime polymorphism.
In addition to this forum for direct help and discussion, two
On 07/17/2012 07:01 AM, Lipska the Kat wrote:
SNIP
Anyway, I'm looking at Python as a rapid prototyping language.
I have an idea and just want to get it down in basic outline code as
quickly as possible before it departs my aging brain... I'm not used
to using variables without declaring
On 17/07/12 11:03, Devin Jeanpierre wrote:
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 4:45 AM, Lipska the Katlip...@lipskathekat.com wrote:
Is Python truly OO or is it just one way to use the language. I see some
documentation relating to classes but nothing on instantiation .. in fact
the documentation appears
On 7/17/2012 6:01 AM, Lipska the Kat wrote:
Anyway, I'm looking at Python as a rapid prototyping language.
I have an idea and just want to get it down in basic outline code as
quickly as possible before it departs my aging brain... I'm not used to
using variables without declaring their type
On 17/07/12 12:37, Andrew Berg wrote:
On 7/17/2012 6:01 AM, Lipska the Kat wrote:
Anyway, I'm looking at Python as a rapid prototyping language.
snip
Pythonic is (or at least should be) a word you encounter frequently in
discussions of Python code. Learn what is considered Pythonic and then
On 7/17/2012 6:44 AM, Lipska the Kat wrote:
I'll check it out, thanks.
I forgot to add this:
http://wiki.python.org/moin/Python2orPython3
It's a little outdated (there is more progress toward py3k by 3rd-party
libraries every day), but still quite helpful.
--
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On 17/07/12 09:45, Lipska the Kat wrote:
Pythoners
Python 2.7.3
Ubuntu Linux 12.04 LTS
I've been taking a brief look at Python.
snip
Well I've set myself a task.
I have a text file containing a list of stock items
each line contains the number in stock followed by a tab followed by the
Am 17.07.2012 13:01, schrieb Lipska the Kat:
On 17/07/12 10:30, Ulrich Eckhardt wrote:
Am 17.07.2012 10:45, schrieb Lipska the Kat:
I was expecting (hoping) to see in depth documentation relating to Class
construction, extension mechanisms and runtime polymorphism.
In addition to this forum
On 17/07/2012 12:01, Lipska the Kat wrote:
Anyway, I'm looking at Python as a rapid prototyping language.
Lipska
One of the huge advantages of Python here is that you can simply blast
stuff into the interactive prompt and see what happens, no need to write
a script.
--
Cheers.
Mark
On 17/07/2012 12:44, Lipska the Kat wrote:
You're not kidding, the 'duck' example at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duck_typing made me check I hadn't overdone
the medication this morning. That is just plain ...weird. It will take
me a while to form non knee jerk opinions of this for sure.
In article -8sdnvrxgqie25jnnz2dnuvz7qkdn...@bt.com,
Lipska the Kat lip...@lipskathekat.com wrote:
I'm not used to using variables without declaring their type
If you truly wanted to recreate this type-bondage style of programming
in Python, it's easy enough to do.
Where you would write in
On 17/07/12 12:37, Andrew Berg wrote:
On 7/17/2012 6:01 AM, Lipska the Kat wrote:
snip
On a side note, I would highly recommend learning Python 3 (3.2 is the
latest stable version) unless you have an explicit need for Python 2
(some major 3rd-party libraries have not been ported yet). Python
On 7/17/2012 9:01 AM, Lipska the Kat wrote:
Wow, that was a blast from the past
Just downloaded, unzipped, untarred, configured, made and installed
python 3.2.3 ... it's YEARS since I've done this, makes me feel young again.
Most Linux distributions should have a premade package for stable
On 17/07/12 14:52, Roy Smith wrote:
In article-8sdnvrxgqie25jnnz2dnuvz7qkdn...@bt.com,
Lipska the Katlip...@lipskathekat.com wrote:
I'm not used to using variables without declaring their type
If you truly wanted to recreate this type-bondage style of programming
in Python, it's easy
On 17/07/12 15:16, Andrew Berg wrote:
On 7/17/2012 9:01 AM, Lipska the Kat wrote:
Wow, that was a blast from the past
Just downloaded, unzipped, untarred, configured, made and installed
python 3.2.3 ... it's YEARS since I've done this, makes me feel young again.
Most Linux distributions should
On 17/07/2012 15:23, Lipska the Kat wrote:
On 17/07/12 14:52, Roy Smith wrote:
In article-8sdnvrxgqie25jnnz2dnuvz7qkdn...@bt.com,
Lipska the Katlip...@lipskathekat.com wrote:
I'm not used to using variables without declaring their type
If you truly wanted to recreate this type-bondage
On 17/07/12 17:26, Mark Lawrence wrote:
On 17/07/2012 15:23, Lipska the Kat wrote:
On 17/07/12 14:52, Roy Smith wrote:
snip
Still, I'm sure you're only kidding around with me :-)
Kidding around on a Python mailing list, never, how dare you Sir, simply
wouldn't be cricket :-)
As in The
On 7/17/2012 10:23 AM, Lipska the Kat wrote:
Well 'type-bondage' is a strange way of thinking about compile time type
checking and making code easier to read (and therefor debug
'type-bondage' is the requirement to restrict function inputs and output
to one declared type, where the type
On 7/17/2012 8:01 AM, Lipska the Kat wrote:
On 17/07/12 09:45, Lipska the Kat wrote:
Pythoners
Python 2.7.3
Ubuntu Linux 12.04 LTS
I've been taking a brief look at Python.
snip
Well I've set myself a task.
I have a text file containing a list of stock items
each line contains the number
On 7/17/2012 10:16 AM, Andrew Berg wrote:
On 7/17/2012 9:01 AM, Lipska the Kat wrote:
Wow, that was a blast from the past
Just downloaded, unzipped, untarred, configured, made and installed
python 3.2.3 ... it's YEARS since I've done this, makes me feel young again.
Most Linux distributions
Terry Reedy wrote:
On 7/17/2012 10:23 AM, Lipska the Kat wrote:
Well 'type-bondage' is a strange way of thinking about compile time type
checking and making code easier to read (and therefor debug
'type-bondage' is the requirement to restrict function inputs and output
to one declared type,
On 17/07/2012 18:24, Terry Reedy wrote:
On 7/17/2012 8:01 AM, Lipska the Kat wrote:
On 17/07/12 09:45, Lipska the Kat wrote:
Pythoners
Python 2.7.3
Ubuntu Linux 12.04 LTS
I've been taking a brief look at Python.
snip
Well I've set myself a task.
I have a text file containing a list of
On 07/17/12 12:24, Terry Reedy wrote:
On 7/17/2012 8:01 AM, Lipska the Kat wrote:
In bash this is laughably trivial
sort -nr $1 | head -${2:-10}
Won't sort work alphabetically and leave the following as is?
1\talpha
11\tbeta
2\tgamma
Only if Lipska had omitted the -n which tells sort
On 7/17/2012 12:30 PM, Terry Reedy wrote:
(In some ways, it is already better than 3.2.3.)
I certainly make heavy use of some of the new features. I'm not sure we
can have enough separate exceptions for OS errors without exhausting
every possibility and I might start looking for excuses to use
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 12:23 AM, Lipska the Kat
lip...@lipskathekat.com wrote:
Well 'type-bondage' is a strange way of thinking about compile time type
checking and making code easier to read (and therefor debug) but
I'm not about to get into some religious war about declaring a variables
On 07/17/12 12:29, Ethan Furman wrote:
Terry Reedy wrote:
On 7/17/2012 10:23 AM, Lipska the Kat wrote:
Well 'type-bondage' is a strange way of thinking about compile time type
checking and making code easier to read (and therefor debug
'type-bondage' is the requirement to restrict function
On 17/07/2012 18:29, Ethan Furman wrote:
Terry Reedy wrote:
On 7/17/2012 10:23 AM, Lipska the Kat wrote:
Well 'type-bondage' is a strange way of thinking about compile time type
checking and making code easier to read (and therefor debug
'type-bondage' is the requirement to restrict
On 17/07/12 18:24, Terry Reedy wrote:
On 7/17/2012 8:01 AM, Lipska the Kat wrote:
On 17/07/12 09:45, Lipska the Kat wrote:
Pythoners
Python 2.7.3
Ubuntu Linux 12.04 LTS
I've been taking a brief look at Python.
snip
Well I've set myself a task.
I have a text file containing a list of
Mark Lawrence wrote:
On 17/07/2012 18:29, Ethan Furman wrote:
Terry Reedy wrote:
On 7/17/2012 10:23 AM, Lipska the Kat wrote:
Well 'type-bondage' is a strange way of thinking about compile time
type
checking and making code easier to read (and therefor debug
'type-bondage' is the
On 17/07/12 19:18, Mark Lawrence wrote:
On 17/07/2012 18:29, Ethan Furman wrote:
Terry Reedy wrote:
On 7/17/2012 10:23 AM, Lipska the Kat wrote:
Well 'type-bondage' is a strange way of thinking about compile time
type
checking and making code easier to read (and therefor debug
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 1:07 PM, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote:
'type-bondage' is the requirement to restrict function inputs and output to
one declared type, where the type declaration mechanisms are usually quite
limited.
This is interesting, I hadn't expected that sort of definition.
On 17/07/12 18:07, Terry Reedy wrote:
On 7/17/2012 10:23 AM, Lipska the Kat wrote:
Well 'type-bondage' is a strange way of thinking about compile time type
checking and making code easier to read (and therefor debug
snip
How easy was it to write max, or a universal sort in Java?
Well
On 17/07/2012 19:43, Ethan Furman wrote:
Mark Lawrence wrote:
On 17/07/2012 18:29, Ethan Furman wrote:
Terry Reedy wrote:
On 7/17/2012 10:23 AM, Lipska the Kat wrote:
Well 'type-bondage' is a strange way of thinking about compile time
type
checking and making code easier to read (and
On 17/07/2012 20:29, Lipska the Kat wrote:
On 17/07/12 18:07, Terry Reedy wrote:
On 7/17/2012 10:23 AM, Lipska the Kat wrote:
Well 'type-bondage' is a strange way of thinking about compile time type
checking and making code easier to read (and therefor debug
snip
How easy was it to
On 17/07/2012 19:43, Ethan Furman wrote:
Mark Lawrence wrote:
On 17/07/2012 18:29, Ethan Furman wrote:
Terry Reedy wrote:
On 7/17/2012 10:23 AM, Lipska the Kat wrote:
Well 'type-bondage' is a strange way of thinking about compile
time type
checking and making code easier to read (and
On 17/07/12 20:39, Mark Lawrence wrote:
On 17/07/2012 20:29, Lipska the Kat wrote:
On 17/07/12 18:07, Terry Reedy wrote:
On 7/17/2012 10:23 AM, Lipska the Kat wrote:
snip
How easy was it to write max, or a universal sort in Java?
Well java.lang.Math.max() (or min() depending on what you
On 17/07/2012 19:36, Lipska the Kat wrote:
On 17/07/12 19:18, Mark Lawrence wrote:
On 17/07/2012 18:29, Ethan Furman wrote:
Terry Reedy wrote:
On 7/17/2012 10:23 AM, Lipska the Kat wrote:
Well 'type-bondage' is a strange way of thinking about compile time
type
checking and making code
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