Re: Gender, Representativeness and Reputation in StackOverflow

2012-07-24 Thread rusi
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 22:51:07 -0400, Devin Jeanpierre wrote: When people boycott a product, it isn't because not having the product is better than having the product. That's clearly untrue: despite the reasons for the boycott, the product has some value. They boycott it because by doing

Re: Gender, Representativeness and Reputation in StackOverflow

2012-07-24 Thread Alexander Serebrenik
As a scientist I would be more than happy to publish in Open-Access Journals rather than in IEEE/ACM/Springer-published ones. However, I also have to be sure that my publications reach the scientific community and make an impact on it. Unfortunately, in many fields AFAIK the better journals (=

Re: Gender, Representativeness and Reputation in StackOverflow

2012-07-24 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 22:56:42 -0700, rusi wrote: On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 22:51:07 -0400, Devin Jeanpierre wrote: When people boycott a product, it isn't because not having the product is better than having the product. That's clearly untrue: despite the reasons for the boycott, the product has

Re: Gender, Representativeness and Reputation in StackOverflow

2012-07-24 Thread Chris Angelico
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Devin Jeanpierre jeanpierr...@gmail.com wrote: When people boycott a product, it isn't because not having the product is better than having the product. That's clearly untrue: despite the reasons for the boycott, the product has some value. That's because you

Gender, Representativeness and Reputation in StackOverflow

2012-07-23 Thread Alexander Serebrenik
University of Technology, NL; SO userid: 1285620] Discussion of this survey on Meta Stack Overflow: http://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/139901/gender-representativeness-and-reputation-in-stackoverflow -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Gender, Representativeness and Reputation in StackOverflow

2012-07-23 Thread Terry Reedy
On 7/23/2012 8:51 AM, Alexander Serebrenik wrote: Do you participate in StackOverflow discussions? As a part of a joint on-going research effort of the Brunel University (UK) and Eindhoven University of Technology (The Netherlands) on the impact of collaboration sites on the developers

Re: Re: Gender, Representativeness and Reputation in StackOverflow

2012-07-23 Thread Evan Driscoll
On 01/-10/-28163 01:59 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: This is a deceptive and time-wasting link Leaving aside the point that this is not directly related to Python, my opinion is that if the authors will not make past and future papers freely available, not even an abstract, they should not ask for

Re: Gender, Representativeness and Reputation in StackOverflow

2012-07-23 Thread Ethan Furman
Terry Reedy wrote: Leaving aside the point that this is not directly related to Python, my opinion is that if the authors will not make past and future papers freely available, not even an abstract, they should not ask for valuable free data from freely donated time. Thanks, Terry! Save me

Re: Gender, Representativeness and Reputation in StackOverflow

2012-07-23 Thread Terry Reedy
On 7/23/2012 6:01 PM, Evan Driscoll wrote: Leaving aside questions of relevance to the email list and the quality of results from a self-selected survey, the PDF is linked directly from the Google Scholar link in the original post: [PDF] from tue.nl. You're right, off to the side where I

Re: Gender, Representativeness and Reputation in StackOverflow

2012-07-23 Thread Alexander Serebrenik
1) The paper referenced contains 4 pages, so it should be available via IEEXplore. Moreover, you can find a copy on http://www.win.tue.nl/~aserebre/MSR2012.pdf 2) Since the survey is only one of the techniques we intend to use, and it will be augmented by analysing the data publicly available

Re: Gender, Representativeness and Reputation in StackOverflow

2012-07-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 23 July 2012 19:42:29 Alexander Serebrenik did opine: 1) The paper referenced contains 4 pages, so it should be available via IEEXplore. Moreover, you can find a copy on http://www.win.tue.nl/~aserebre/MSR2012.pdf 2) Since the survey is only one of the techniques we intend to use,

Re: Gender, Representativeness and Reputation in StackOverflow

2012-07-23 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 17:44:27 -0400, Terry Reedy wrote: On 7/23/2012 8:51 AM, Alexander Serebrenik wrote: Do you participate in StackOverflow discussions? As a part of a joint on-going research effort of the Brunel University (UK) and Eindhoven University of Technology (The Netherlands) on

Re: Gender, Representativeness and Reputation in StackOverflow

2012-07-23 Thread Devin Jeanpierre
On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 9:30 PM, Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote: Leaving aside the point that this is not directly related to Python, my opinion is that if the authors will not make past and future papers freely available, not even an abstract, they should not ask

Freedom and Data (was Gender, Representativeness and Reputation in StackOverflow)

2012-07-23 Thread rusi
On Jul 24, 7:51 am, Devin Jeanpierre jeanpierr...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 9:30 PM, Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote: Leaving aside the point that this is not directly related to Python, my opinion is that if the authors will not make past and

Re: Freedom and Data (was Gender, Representativeness and Reputation in StackOverflow)

2012-07-23 Thread Chris Angelico
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:56 PM, rusi rustompm...@gmail.com wrote: How many of you use Linux? I ask. The awkwardness is in the definition of the question. Many of the products that I buy will have, at some point, been carried by a truck, but I would answer No if someone asked me if I use a

Re: Freedom and Data (was Gender, Representativeness and Reputation in StackOverflow)

2012-07-23 Thread rusi
On Jul 24, 9:28 am, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:56 PM, rusi rustompm...@gmail.com wrote: How many of you use Linux? I ask. The awkwardness is in the definition of the question. Many of the products that I buy will have, at some point, been carried by a

Re: Gender, Representativeness and Reputation in StackOverflow

2012-07-23 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 22:51:07 -0400, Devin Jeanpierre wrote: On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 9:30 PM, Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote: Leaving aside the point that this is not directly related to Python, my opinion is that if the authors will not make past and future papers