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2013-11-27 Thread Tim Chase
On 2013-11-27 20:08, Roy Smith wrote: > > How do you expect people to know they're using a local idiom? > > Look it up in Urban Dictionary and Bob's your uncle. I thought that's how one could tell if it was an *inappropriate* idiom. As a matter of fact, I'm surprised that "Bob's your uncle" does

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2013-11-27 Thread Roy Smith
In article , alex23 wrote: > On 27/11/2013 7:12 PM, Antoon Pardon wrote: > > However that there is no perfect solution doesn't imply > > we can't expect some effort from those with english as a mother > > tongue to search for ways in which to express themselves that are > > more likely to be und

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2013-11-27 Thread alex23
On 27/11/2013 7:12 PM, Antoon Pardon wrote: However that there is no perfect solution doesn't imply we can't expect some effort from those with english as a mother tongue to search for ways in which to express themselves that are more likely to be understood by those who had to learn english as a

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2013-11-27 Thread rusi
On Wednesday, November 27, 2013 9:55:12 PM UTC+5:30, Tim Chase wrote: > On 2013-11-27 01:32, rusi wrote: > > > And will you be here to explain to time-travelling Shakespeare > > > why we are all of us speaking English completely wrong (to his > > > ears)? > > And to my (Indian!!) ears when Tim sa

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2013-11-27 Thread Tim Chase
On 2013-11-27 01:32, rusi wrote: > > And will you be here to explain to time-travelling Shakespeare > > why we are all of us speaking English completely wrong (to his > > ears)? > > And to my (Indian!!) ears when Tim says 'plank in the eye' where > King James says 'beam' it does not cut it. Wel

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2013-11-27 Thread Ned Batchelder
On 11/27/13 8:18 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 27 November 2013 07:44:18 rusi did opine: On Wednesday, November 27, 2013 7:41:54 AM UTC+5:30, Ned Batchelder wrote: On 11/26/13 8:26 PM, Rick Johnson wrote: And will you be here to explain to time-travelling Shakespeare why we are all

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2013-11-27 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Wed, 27 Nov 2013 09:09:37 -0500, Larry Martell wrote: > On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 5:31 AM, Paul Rudin > wrote: >> rusi writes: >> >>> Propositionally: All languages are equal -- Turing complete >> >> As an aside, not all languages are Turing complete. For example Charity >> is a language with t

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2013-11-27 Thread rusi
On Wednesday, November 27, 2013 7:39:37 PM UTC+5:30, Larry wrote: > On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 5:31 AM, Paul Rudin wrote: > > rusi writes: > >> Propositionally: All languages are equal -- Turing complete > > As an aside, not all languages are Turing complete. For example Charity > > is a language wi

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2013-11-27 Thread Larry Martell
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 5:31 AM, Paul Rudin wrote: > rusi writes: > >> Propositionally: All languages are equal -- Turing complete > > As an aside, not all languages are Turing complete. For example Charity > is a language with the property that programs are guaranteed to > terminate. > >

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2013-11-27 Thread Robert Kern
On 2013-11-27 13:29, rusi wrote: On Wednesday, November 27, 2013 6:27:52 PM UTC+5:30, Robert Kern wrote: On 2013-11-27 08:16, Antoon Pardon wrote: Op 26-11-13 22:42, Tim Delaney schreef: On 27 November 2013 03:57, Antoon Pardon wrote: So I can now ask my questions in dutch and expect ot

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2013-11-27 Thread Rotwang
On 27/11/2013 08:31, Antoon Pardon wrote: Op 27-11-13 09:19, Chris Angelico schreef: [...] Do you mean standard British English, standard American English, standard Australian English, or some other? Does that significantly matter or are you just looking for details you can use to disagree? A

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2013-11-27 Thread rusi
On Wednesday, November 27, 2013 6:27:52 PM UTC+5:30, Robert Kern wrote: > On 2013-11-27 08:16, Antoon Pardon wrote: > > Op 26-11-13 22:42, Tim Delaney schreef: > >> On 27 November 2013 03:57, Antoon Pardon wrote: > >> So I can now ask my questions in dutch and expect others to try and > >>

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2013-11-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 27 November 2013 07:44:18 rusi did opine: > On Wednesday, November 27, 2013 7:41:54 AM UTC+5:30, Ned Batchelder wrote: > > On 11/26/13 8:26 PM, Rick Johnson wrote: > > > > And will you be here to explain to time-travelling Shakespeare why we > > are all of us speaking English compl

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2013-11-27 Thread Robert Kern
On 2013-11-27 08:16, Antoon Pardon wrote: Op 26-11-13 22:42, Tim Delaney schreef: On 27 November 2013 03:57, Antoon Pardon mailto:antoon.par...@rece.vub.ac.be>> wrote: So I can now ask my questions in dutch and expect others to try and understand me instead of me asking them in engli

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2013-11-27 Thread Robert Kern
On 2013-11-27 08:31, Antoon Pardon wrote: Op 27-11-13 09:19, Chris Angelico schreef: On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 7:16 PM, Antoon Pardon wrote: However that second sentence doesn't make much sense to me. Modern languages contain a subset that is called the standard language. This is the subset that

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2013-11-27 Thread Paul Rudin
rusi writes: > Propositionally: All languages are equal -- Turing complete As an aside, not all languages are Turing complete. For example Charity is a language with the property that programs are guaranteed to terminate. -- https

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2013-11-27 Thread Ned Batchelder
On 11/26/13 11:24 PM, Rick Johnson wrote: On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 8:11:54 PM UTC-6, Ned Batchelder wrote: Rick, through all the verbiage, I've lost track of what you are advocating. The OP asks a question and uses the word doubt in a way that is unusual to you and many other, though not

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2013-11-27 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 27/11/2013 08:16, Antoon Pardon wrote: Op 26-11-13 22:42, Tim Delaney schreef: On 27 November 2013 03:57, Antoon Pardon mailto:antoon.par...@rece.vub.ac.be>> wrote: So I can now ask my questions in dutch and expect others to try and understand me instead of me asking them in engli

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2013-11-27 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 27/11/2013 06:48, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Tue, 26 Nov 2013 17:26:48 -0800, Rick Johnson wrote: Even if you are correct that the OP is using a regional variation of English, you fail to realize that this "regional redefinition" of the English word: "doubts" to mean what the *majority* of E

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2013-11-27 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 8:47 PM, rusi wrote: > On Wednesday, November 27, 2013 12:18:11 PM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote: >> On Tue, 26 Nov 2013 17:26:48 -0800, Rick Johnson wrote: > >> [...] >> > "A new home-run record!" > >> What is this "home-run" of which you speak? Houses don't generally r

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2013-11-27 Thread Jussi Piitulainen
Steven D'Aprano writes: > On Tue, 26 Nov 2013 20:24:16 -0800, Rick Johnson wrote: > > > Although i would strongly prefer for him to choose ubiquitous > > definitions *over* regional definitions when posting to internet > > forums, i would have happily ignored this thread had it not been > > for S

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2013-11-27 Thread rusi
On Wednesday, November 27, 2013 12:18:11 PM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Tue, 26 Nov 2013 17:26:48 -0800, Rick Johnson wrote: > [...] > > "A new home-run record!" > What is this "home-run" of which you speak? Houses don't generally run. > Surely you're not using a regional idiom outsid

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2013-11-27 Thread rusi
On Wednesday, November 27, 2013 3:02:54 PM UTC+5:30, rusi wrote: [Last line cut-off by mistake!] > It is my impression that the arguments that happen in/around > programming languages are more-heat-less-light than in typical > art/science because artistic questions masquerade as sci

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2013-11-27 Thread rusi
On Wednesday, November 27, 2013 7:41:54 AM UTC+5:30, Ned Batchelder wrote: > On 11/26/13 8:26 PM, Rick Johnson wrote: > And will you be here to explain to time-travelling Shakespeare why we > are all of us speaking English completely wrong (to his ears)? And to my (Indian!!) ears when Tim says

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2013-11-27 Thread Antoon Pardon
Op 27-11-13 09:36, Chris Angelico schreef: > On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 7:31 PM, Antoon Pardon > wrote: >> Op 27-11-13 09:19, Chris Angelico schreef: >>> On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 7:16 PM, Antoon Pardon >>> wrote: However that second sentence doesn't make much sense to me. Modern languages c

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2013-11-27 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 7:31 PM, Antoon Pardon wrote: > Op 27-11-13 09:19, Chris Angelico schreef: >> On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 7:16 PM, Antoon Pardon >> wrote: >>> However that second sentence doesn't make much sense to me. Modern >>> languages contain a subset that is called the standard language

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2013-11-27 Thread Antoon Pardon
Op 27-11-13 09:19, Chris Angelico schreef: > On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 7:16 PM, Antoon Pardon > wrote: >> However that second sentence doesn't make much sense to me. Modern >> languages contain a subset that is called the standard language. This >> is the subset that is generally taught. Especially

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2013-11-27 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 7:16 PM, Antoon Pardon wrote: > However that second sentence doesn't make much sense to me. Modern > languages contain a subset that is called the standard language. This > is the subset that is generally taught. Especially to those for whom > the language is foreign. So wh

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2013-11-27 Thread Antoon Pardon
Op 26-11-13 22:42, Tim Delaney schreef: > On 27 November 2013 03:57, Antoon Pardon > wrote: > > > So I can now ask my questions in dutch and expect others to try and > understand me instead of me asking them in english? Or can I use > literal tran

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2013-11-26 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Tue, 26 Nov 2013 20:24:16 -0800, Rick Johnson wrote: >> Pop Quiz >> >> Your driving your car down the road when ou

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2013-11-26 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > I completely sniglim with what you are saying. I'd go further and state > that, without exception, your argument is the most vumtigious I've ever > seen, and if there were any justice in the world, people would follow you > down the street

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2013-11-26 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Tue, 26 Nov 2013 20:24:16 -0800, Rick Johnson wrote: > Although i would strongly prefer for him to choose ubiquitous > definitions *over* regional definitions when posting to internet forums, > i would have happily ignored this thread had it not been for Stevens > emotional plea of: > > "A

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2013-11-26 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Tue, 26 Nov 2013 17:26:48 -0800, Rick Johnson wrote: > Even if you are correct that the OP is using a regional variation of > English, you fail to realize that this "regional redefinition" of the > English word: "doubts" to mean what the *majority* of English speaking > world understands as "q

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2013-11-26 Thread Ned Batchelder
On 11/26/13 8:26 PM, Rick Johnson wrote: On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 8:52:11 AM UTC-6, Chris Angelico wrote: On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 1:37 AM, Roy Smith [...] wrote: We live in an international world (otherwise we wouldn't need that annoying unicode stuff). When you say, "effort to be underst

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2013-11-26 Thread Rick Johnson
On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 8:52:11 AM UTC-6, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 1:37 AM, Roy Smith [...] wrote: > > We live in an international world (otherwise we wouldn't > > need that annoying unicode stuff). When you say, > > "effort to be understandable", what you're really sa

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2013-11-26 Thread Tim Delaney
On 27 November 2013 03:57, Antoon Pardon wrote: > > So I can now ask my questions in dutch and expect others to try and > understand me instead of me asking them in english? Or can I use > literal translations of dutch idioms even if I suspect that such > a literal translation could be misundersto

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2013-11-26 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 26 November 2013 10:49:07 Alister did opine: > On Wed, 27 Nov 2013 01:52:11 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 1:37 AM, Roy Smith wrote: > >> We live in an international world (otherwise we wouldn't need that > >> annoying unicode stuff). When you say, "effort to

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2013-11-26 Thread Antoon Pardon
Op 26-11-13 15:37, Roy Smith schreef: > In article , > Antoon Pardon wrote: > >> So I think we may expect more effort from the writer in trying to be >> understandable than from the readers in trying to understand. And >> that includes idiom use. > > We live in an international world (otherwi

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2013-11-26 Thread Alister
On Wed, 27 Nov 2013 01:52:11 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 1:37 AM, Roy Smith wrote: >> We live in an international world (otherwise we wouldn't need that >> annoying unicode stuff). When you say, "effort to be understandable", >> what you're really saying is, "everybody

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2013-11-26 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 1:37 AM, Roy Smith wrote: > We live in an international world (otherwise we wouldn't need that > annoying unicode stuff). When you say, "effort to be understandable", > what you're really saying is, "everybody should be just like me". > > Unfortunately, that's not going to

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2013-11-26 Thread Roy Smith
In article , Antoon Pardon wrote: > So I think we may expect more effort from the writer in trying to be > understandable than from the readers in trying to understand. And > that includes idiom use. We live in an international world (otherwise we wouldn't need that annoying unicode stuff).

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2013-11-26 Thread Ned Batchelder
On 11/25/13 10:33 PM, Rick Johnson wrote:> On Monday, November 25, 2013 2:10:04 PM UTC-6, Ned Batchelder wrote: >> Let's please avoid veering off into rants about language >> and philosophy now. > > Hello Ned. I respect the fact that you want to keep threads > on-topic, and i greatly appreciate t

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2013-11-25 Thread Antoon Pardon
Op 25-11-13 21:05, Joel Goldstick schreef: >>> I'm not an expert on Indian English, but I understand that in that >>> dialect it is grammatically correct to say "the codes", just as in UK and >>> US English it is grammatically correct to say "the programs". >>> >>> In other words, in UK/US English,

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2013-11-25 Thread Antoon Pardon
Op 25-11-13 21:00, Ethan Furman schreef: > On 11/25/2013 11:53 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote: >> Op 23-11-13 03:18, Steven D'Aprano schreef: >>> >>> As this is an international forum, it behoves us all to make allowances >>> for slight difference in dialect. >> >> I don't see how that follows. I would sa

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2013-11-25 Thread Rick Johnson
On Monday, November 25, 2013 2:10:04 PM UTC-6, Ned Batchelder wrote: > Let's please avoid veering off into rants about language > and philosophy now. Hello Ned. I respect the fact that you want to keep threads on-topic, and i greatly appreciate the humbleness of your request. However, i feel as t

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2013-11-25 Thread Larry Martell
On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 6:12 PM, Gregory Ewing wrote: > Ned Batchelder wrote: > >> Let's please avoid veering off into rants about language >> > > and philosophy now. > > Philosophy is totally on topic for this group: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2gJamguN04 > > A classic! I hadn't seen that

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2013-11-25 Thread Gregory Ewing
Ned Batchelder wrote: Let's please avoid veering off into rants about language > and philosophy now. Philosophy is totally on topic for this group: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2gJamguN04 -- Greg -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

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2013-11-25 Thread Ethan Furman
On 11/25/2013 11:53 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote: Op 23-11-13 03:18, Steven D'Aprano schreef: As this is an international forum, it behoves us all to make allowances for slight difference in dialect. I don't see how that follows. I would say on the contrary. This being an international forum peopl

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2013-11-25 Thread Ned Batchelder
On Monday, November 25, 2013 2:32:12 PM UTC-5, Rick Johnson wrote: > On Saturday, November 23, 2013 7:38:47 PM UTC-6, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > > Where do you, an American, > > What the hell makes you believe I'm an American? Because i > speak fluent English? Because i embrace capitalism? Because >

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2013-11-25 Thread Joel Goldstick
>> I'm not an expert on Indian English, but I understand that in that >> dialect it is grammatically correct to say "the codes", just as in UK and >> US English it is grammatically correct to say "the programs". >> >> In other words, in UK/US English, "code" in the sense of programming code >> is a

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2013-11-25 Thread Antoon Pardon
Op 23-11-13 03:18, Steven D'Aprano schreef: > On Sat, 23 Nov 2013 01:55:44 +, Denis McMahon wrote: > >> On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 18:22:29 +0530, Bharath Kummar wrote: > >>> Could you PLEASE provide me with the codes (codes only for the asked >>> queries) ? >> >> The codes are: >> >> 1) 7373a28109a

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2013-11-25 Thread Rick Johnson
On Saturday, November 23, 2013 7:38:47 PM UTC-6, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > Where do you, an American, What the hell makes you believe I'm an American? Because i speak fluent English? Because i embrace capitalism? Because i wish to be free of tyranny? Well, if that's all it takes to be an American,

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2013-11-25 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Mon, 25 Nov 2013 16:25:57 +, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2013-11-23, Dave Angel wrote: > >> Try posting in text, as some of us see nothing in your message. This is >> a text newsgroup, not html. >> >> Also make a subject line that summarizes your issue, not the urgency. > > An exclamation

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2013-11-25 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2013-11-23, Dave Angel wrote: > Try posting in text, as some of us see nothing in your message. This > is a text newsgroup, not html. > > Also make a subject line that summarizes your issue, not the urgency. An exclamation mark is a yellow flag, and three should definitly route a message to

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2013-11-25 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2013-11-23, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Sat, 23 Nov 2013 01:55:44 +, Denis McMahon wrote: > >> On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 18:22:29 +0530, Bharath Kummar wrote: > >>> Could you PLEASE provide me with the codes (codes only for the asked >>> queries) ? >> >> The codes are: >> >> 1) 7373a28109a7c447

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2013-11-24 Thread xDog Walker
On Saturday 2013 November 23 23:32, Devin Jeanpierre wrote: > This list needs stronger moderation Rule #1: The ML should not disseminate any message which contains an unquoted "please". -- Yonder nor sorghum stenches shut ladle gulls stopper torque wet strainers. -- https://mail.python.org/m

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2013-11-23 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 6:32 PM, Devin Jeanpierre wrote: > On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 5:38 PM, Steven D'Aprano > wrote: >> Thank you for the lesson in the virtues of bluntness, and why politeness >> and political correctness is a vice. Never let it be said that I'm not >> willing to learn from you R

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2013-11-23 Thread Devin Jeanpierre
On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 5:38 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > Thank you for the lesson in the virtues of bluntness, and why politeness > and political correctness is a vice. Never let it be said that I'm not > willing to learn from you Rick, so keeping everything you said in mind, > let me say this: >

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2013-11-23 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sat, 23 Nov 2013 15:06:42 -0800, Rick Johnson wrote: > On Friday, November 22, 2013 8:18:03 PM UTC-6, Steven D'Aprano wrote: >> As this is an international forum, it behoves us all to make allowances >> for slight difference in dialect. > > I don't thank so. What purpose does that serve? > >

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2013-11-23 Thread Gregory Ewing
Ian Kelly wrote: I wouldn't necessarily even consider it an Indian thing, as I've known Americans to use the same phrase. In my experience it seems to be a scientific community vs. computer science community thing. I often hear Fortran people talk about "a code" where we would say "a library" o

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2013-11-23 Thread Gregory Ewing
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 8:47 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > Rice is the plural of rouse And spice is the plural of spouse. :-) -- Greg -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

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2013-11-23 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Rick Johnson wrote: > On Friday, November 22, 2013 8:18:03 PM UTC-6, Steven D'Aprano wrote: >> As this is an international forum, it behoves us all to make allowances >> for slight difference in dialect. > > I don't thank so. What purpose does that serve? > ... >

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2013-11-23 Thread Tim Chase
On 2013-11-23 15:06, Rick Johnson wrote: > I don't thank so. What purpose does that serve? > > If we allow people to speak INCORRECT English under the > guise of "political correctness" then no one will benefit. "I don't thank so"? talk about the plank in your own eye... -tkc -- https://mai

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2013-11-23 Thread Rick Johnson
On Friday, November 22, 2013 8:18:03 PM UTC-6, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > As this is an international forum, it behoves us all to make allowances > for slight difference in dialect. I don't thank so. What purpose does that serve? If we allow people to speak INCORRECT English under the guise of "po

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2013-11-23 Thread Rick Johnson
On Friday, November 22, 2013 8:18:03 PM UTC-6, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > [snip] I look forward to the day that "rice" is the plural of "ri" Yes and i look forward to the day when "thread hijacking" perpetrated under the guise of "exploring linguistic minutia" perpetrated under the guise of "vanit

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2013-11-23 Thread Denis McMahon
On Sat, 23 Nov 2013 02:18:03 +, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Sat, 23 Nov 2013 01:55:44 +, Denis McMahon wrote: >> On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 18:22:29 +0530, Bharath Kummar wrote: >>> Could you PLEASE provide me with the codes (codes only for the asked >>> queries) ? >> The codes are: >> 1) 7373a

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2013-11-23 Thread Steve Simmons
On 23/11/2013 17:35, Chris Angelico wrote: On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 3:35 AM, Tim Chase wrote: Mice/Mouse <> Rice/*Rouse Wordplay is one of my worst vouse. ;-) Yeah, some people can come up with bad puns in a trouse. ChrisA Well! That wasn't very nouse! -- https://mail.python.org/ma

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2013-11-23 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 3:35 AM, Tim Chase wrote: >> Mice/Mouse <> Rice/*Rouse > > Wordplay is one of my worst vouse. ;-) Yeah, some people can come up with bad puns in a trouse. ChrisA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

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2013-11-23 Thread Steve Simmons
By the same logic the plural of spouse is spice and most men that have had more than one wife will tell you that, whilst it may be the expectation, it ain't necessarily so  ;-)   On 23/11/2013 16:44, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: On Fr

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2013-11-23 Thread Tim Chase
On 2013-11-23 10:44, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 23:42:44 -0700, Ian Kelly > declaimed the following: > > > >On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 8:47 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber > > wrote: > >> > >> Rice is the plural of rouse > > > >Not according to the dictionary. But it does seem

Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !

2013-11-23 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 23/11/2013 02:18, Steven D'Aprano wrote: In other words, in UK/US English, UK English? Clearly you've never been to Newcastle upon Tyne or Glasgow :) -- Python is the second best programming language in the world. But the best has yet to be invented. Christian Tismer Mark Lawrence -- h

Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !

2013-11-23 Thread William Ray Wing
On Nov 23, 2013, at 1:42 AM, Ian Kelly wrote: > On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 7:18 PM, Steven D'Aprano > wrote: >> I'm not an expert on Indian English, but I understand that in that >> dialect it is grammatically correct to say "the codes", just as in UK and >> US English it is grammatically correct t

Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !

2013-11-22 Thread Ian Kelly
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 7:18 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > I'm not an expert on Indian English, but I understand that in that > dialect it is grammatically correct to say "the codes", just as in UK and > US English it is grammatically correct to say "the programs". I wouldn't necessarily even cons

Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !

2013-11-22 Thread Dave Angel
Try posting in text, as some of us see nothing in your message. This is a text newsgroup, not html. Also make a subject line that summarizes your issue, not the urgency. -- DaveA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !

2013-11-22 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sat, 23 Nov 2013 01:55:44 +, Denis McMahon wrote: > On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 18:22:29 +0530, Bharath Kummar wrote: >> Could you PLEASE provide me with the codes (codes only for the asked >> queries) ? > > The codes are: > > 1) 7373a28109a7c4473a475b2137aa92d5 > 2) f2fae9a4ad5ded75e4d8ac34b90d

Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !

2013-11-22 Thread Denis McMahon
On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 18:22:29 +0530, Bharath Kummar wrote: > Could you please help me with my current research ? Am implementing the > concept in python language. > My doubts are : > 1) Is it possible to Retrieve the address of a variable in python ? > 2) Is it possible to Delete the Address of

Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !

2013-11-22 Thread Ned Batchelder
On Friday, November 22, 2013 9:13:50 AM UTC-5, rusi wrote: > On Friday, November 22, 2013 6:22:29 PM UTC+5:30, Bharath Kummar wrote: > > Hello Sir/Mam,  > > Could you please help me with my current research ?  Am implementing the > > concept in python language.  > > My doubts are : > > 1)  Is it p

Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !

2013-11-22 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2013-11-22, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 18:22:29 +0530, Bharath Kummar wrote: > >> 1) Is it possible to Retrieve the address of a variable in python ? > > No. Variables in Python are not at fixed addresses, like in Pascal or C, > they are names in a namespace. > > You can re

Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !

2013-11-22 Thread Ian Kelly
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 7:13 AM, rusi wrote: > 2) del will delete objects -- like free in C >Except that like above, thinking in C will cause more problems than it > solves No, del will only delete name bindings. Whether the bound object is also deleted depends on whether it is still refere

Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !

2013-11-22 Thread rusi
On Friday, November 22, 2013 6:22:29 PM UTC+5:30, Bharath Kummar wrote: > Hello Sir/Mam,  > Could you please help me with my current research ?  Am implementing the > concept in python language.  > My doubts are : > 1)  Is it possible to Retrieve the address of a variable in python ? > 2)  Is it p

Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !

2013-11-22 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 18:22:29 +0530, Bharath Kummar wrote: > 1) Is it possible to Retrieve the address of a variable in python ? No. Variables in Python are not at fixed addresses, like in Pascal or C, they are names in a namespace. You can read this post for some more information about the di

Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !

2013-11-22 Thread Roy Smith
In article , Bharath Kummar wrote: > Could you please help me with my current research ? Am implementing the > concept in python language. > My doubts are : [Note to readers of American/British English; Indian English uses "doubt" the same way we would use "question"] > 1) Is it possible t

Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP !

2013-11-22 Thread Bharath Kummar
Hello Sir/Mam, Could you please help me with my current research ? Am implementing the concept in python language. My doubts are : 1) Is it possible to Retrieve the address of a variable in python ? 2) Is it possible to Delete the Address of the Variable and create a new dynamic address inside