On 30/07/2012 03:31, Rodrick Brown wrote:
Hence the reason why no one will seriously look at Python for none
glue work or simple web apps. When it comes to designing complex
applications that need to exploit large multicore systems Python just
isn't an option.
Its still not possible to be a
On 23/08/12 22:46, Chris Withers wrote:
On 30/07/2012 03:31, Rodrick Brown wrote:
Hence the reason why no one will seriously look at Python for none
glue work or simple web apps. When it comes to designing complex
applications that need to exploit large multicore systems Python just
isn't an
On Sunday, July 29, 2012 12:01:00 PM UTC-4, lipska the kat wrote:
How is python used in the real world.
songza.com is pretty close to 100% python. The only significant non-python
code on the server side are mongodb, haproxy, and nginx.
What sized projects are people involved with
We've got
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about reading here is the way things do go off topic. IMHO makes for a
far more interesting experience. YMMV.
+1
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Prasad, Ramit, 03.08.2012 08:51:
I'm in stuck record mode here, but one of the things I really enjoy
about reading here is the way things do go off topic. IMHO makes for a
far more interesting experience. YMMV.
+1
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Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 09:31:43 +1000
Subject: Re: Is Python a commercial
On 02/08/12 04:10, David wrote:
On 01/08/2012, Stefan Behnelstefan...@behnel.de wrote:
Would you mind taking this slightly off-topic discussion off the list?
I always strive to stay on-topic. In fact immediately this thread went
off topic, 4 messages back, I did try to go off list, but got
On 01/08/2012 00:31, David wrote:
On 01/08/2012, lipska the kat lip...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
On 31/07/12 14:52, David wrote:
[1] as in beer
[2] for research purposes
There's one (as in 1 above) in the pump for you.
Great, more beer = better research = \o/\o/\o/
But, pump sounds a bit extreme
On 01/08/12 09:06, Mark Lawrence wrote:
On 01/08/2012 00:31, David wrote:
On 01/08/2012, lipska the kat lip...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
On 31/07/12 14:52, David wrote:
[1] as in beer
[2] for research purposes
There's one (as in 1 above) in the pump for you.
Great, more beer = better research =
On 01/08/2012, lipska the kat lip...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
On 01/08/12 09:06, Mark Lawrence wrote:
You complete ignoramus, if it gets poured in advance that's no good to
anybody as it'll go flat. Has to stay in the pump until you're ready to
drink it from the glass. Don't you know anything about
David, 01.08.2012 13:59:
On 01/08/2012, lipska the kat wrote:
On 01/08/12 09:06, Mark Lawrence wrote:
You complete ignoramus, if it gets poured in advance that's no good to
anybody as it'll go flat. Has to stay in the pump until you're ready to
drink it from the glass. Don't you know
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Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 09:31:43 +1000
Subject: Re: Is Python a commercial proposition ?
From: David bouncingc
On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 21:45:51 -0700, Paul Rubin wrote:
Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info writes:
And at that level, you aren't going to write your app in Python anyway,
and not because of the GIL. (These microcontrollers are unlikely to
have multiple cores -- why the hell
In article 50177b4d$0$29867$c3e8da3$54964...@news.astraweb.com,
Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote:
Do they consider that perhaps there are alternatives to threads?
There's basically two reasons people use threads.
First is because it's a convenient way to multiplex
On 30/07/2012, lipska the kat lip...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
On 30/07/12 14:06, Roy Smith wrote:
These days, I'm working on a fairly large web application (songza.com).
We are very sorry to say that due to licensing constraints we cannot
allow access to Songza for listeners located outside of the
On 31/07/12 14:52, David wrote:
On 30/07/2012, lipska the katlip...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
On 30/07/12 14:06, Roy Smith wrote:
These days, I'm working on a fairly large web application (songza.com).
We are very sorry to say that due to licensing constraints we cannot
allow access to Songza for
On 01/08/2012, lipska the kat lip...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
On 31/07/12 14:52, David wrote:
[1] as in beer
[2] for research purposes
There's one (as in 1 above) in the pump for you.
Great, more beer = better research = \o/\o/\o/
But, pump sounds a bit extreme .. I usually sip contentedly from a
Rodrick Brown, 30.07.2012 02:12:
On Jul 29, 2012, at 12:07 PM, lipska the kat wrote:
I'm trying to understand where Python fits into the set of commonly
available, commercially used languages of the moment.
Python is a glue language much like Perl was 10 years ago. Until the
GIL is fixed
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 4:07 PM, Stefan Behnel stefan...@behnel.de wrote:
Still, you may still get away with the above statement by providing a
sufficiently narrow definition of standalone. By my definition, there
isn't much standalone code out there. Most code I know interfaces with a
couple
On 07/29/12 21:31, Rodrick Brown wrote:
Its still not possible to be a pure Python developer and find
gainful employment today.
I'm not sure where you get your facts, but unless you define pure
in a super-narrow way, it's just flat-out wrong. I've been employed
doing primarily Python for the
In article mailman.2717.1343634778.4697.python-l...@python.org,
Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote:
Python's an excellent glue language, but it's also fine for huge
applications. Yes, it can't multithread across cores if you use
CPython and are CPU-bound. That's actually a pretty specific
On 30/07/12 14:06, Roy Smith wrote:
In articlemailman.2717.1343634778.4697.python-l...@python.org,
Chris Angelicoros...@gmail.com wrote:
Python's an excellent glue language, but it's also fine for huge
applications. Yes, it can't multithread across cores if you use
CPython and are
On 2012-07-30, Stefan Behnel stefan...@behnel.de wrote:
Still, you may still get away with the above statement by providing a
sufficiently narrow definition of standalone. By my definition, there
isn't much standalone code out there. Most code I know interfaces with a
couple of external
On Jul 29, 9:01 pm, lipska the kat lip...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Pythoners
Firstly, thanks to those on the tutor list who answered my questions.
I'm trying to understand where Python fits into the set of commonly
available, commercially used languages of the moment.
My most recent experience
On 7/29/2012 5:12 PM Rodrick Brown said...
Until the
GIL is fixed I doubt anyone will seriously look at Python as an option
for large enterprise standalone application development.
See openERP -- http://www.openerp.com/ -- they've been actively
converting SAP accounts and have recently
I work in financials and the majority of our apps are developed in C++
and Java yet all the tools that startup, deploy and conduct rigorous
unit testing are implemented in Python or Shell scripts that wrap
Python scripts.
Python definitely has its place in the enterprise however not so much
On Jul 30, 12:31 pm, Rodrick Brown rodrick.br...@gmail.com wrote:
Its still not possible to be a pure Python developer and find gainful
employment today.
I have been working as a pure Python developer for six+ years now
(in that the bulk of my coding is done in Python, with some interface
On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 14:09:38 +, Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2012-07-30, Stefan Behnel stefan...@behnel.de wrote:
Still, you may still get away with the above statement by providing a
sufficiently narrow definition of standalone. By my definition, there
isn't much standalone code out there.
Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info writes:
And at that level, you aren't going to write your app in Python anyway,
and not because of the GIL. (These microcontrollers are unlikely to have
multiple cores -- why the hell does your microwave oven need two cores?)
Paul Rubin, 31.07.2012 06:45:
A real compiler (PyPy) will help Python performance far more than
multi-core currently can.
That's too general a statement to be meaningful.
Stefan
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Firstly, thanks to those on the tutor list who answered my questions.
I'm trying to understand where Python fits into the set of commonly
available, commercially used languages of the moment.
My most recent experience is with Java. The last project I was involved
with included
http://www.djangosites.org/
Instagram, Pinterest, Washington Post, and The Onion all use djangoto
run their websites.
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1906795/what-are-some-famous-websites-built-in-django
Django is of course a very highly-regarded web framework written in
python, but there
On 29/07/2012 17:01, lipska the kat wrote:
Pythoners
Firstly, thanks to those on the tutor list who answered my questions.
I'm trying to understand where Python fits into the set of commonly
available, commercially used languages of the moment.
My most recent experience is with Java. The last
lipska the kat, 29.07.2012 18:01:
My most recent experience is with Java. The last project I was involved
with included 6775 java source files containing 1,145,785 lines of code.
How do I know this? because I managed to cobble together a python script
that walks the source tree and counts the
Another common use is to create automated regression testing
frameworks, and other automation tools.
I see posting for python developers for this type of thing all the
time on stack overflow careers.
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Mark Lawrence breamore...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
On 29/07/2012
On 07/29/12 12:13, Michael Hrivnak wrote:
- Operating system installer: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Anaconda
- Software repository management: http://pulpproject.org/
- Software package installation:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Software_Center
- Cloud computing:
On 29/07/2012 17:01, lipska the kat wrote:
Pythoners
Firstly, thanks to those on the tutor list who answered my questions.
I'm trying to understand where Python fits into the set of commonly
available, commercially used languages of the moment.
My most recent experience is with Java.
Tim Chase, 29.07.2012 20:28:
On 07/29/12 12:13, Michael Hrivnak wrote:
- Operating system installer: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Anaconda
- Software repository management: http://pulpproject.org/
- Software package installation:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Software_Center
- Cloud
On 7/29/2012 12:01 PM, lipska the kat wrote:
I'm trying to understand where Python fits into the set of commonly
available, commercially used languages of the moment.
Ever heard of a little startup called Google? It was built with C, Java,
... and Python. I believe Youtube is scripted in
Michael Hrivnak schrieb:
Python is used frequently on the server side of web applications for
sites of all sizes, with the UI generally being done in javascript.
Two large companies with lots of python code are dropbox and youtube:
On Sunday, July 29, 2012 5:01:00 PM UTC+1, lipska the kat wrote:
Pythoners
Firstly, thanks to those on the tutor list who answered my questions.
I'm trying to understand where Python fits into the set of commonly
available, commercially used languages of the moment.
My
Scripting is one of the strong sides of python. I use it al the time to quickly
write a script to analyze something or automate. That is probably the reason it
is used to glue (script) things together and is embedded in some programs (like
Maya and such).
At the company we're using python and
Michael Hrivnak wrote:
Python is used frequently on the server side of web applications for
sites of all sizes, with the UI generally being done in javascript.
There is no javascript.
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On Jul 29, 2012, at 12:07 PM, lipska the kat lip...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Pythoners
Firstly, thanks to those on the tutor list who answered my questions.
I'm trying to understand where Python fits into the set of commonly
available, commercially used languages of the
On 7/29/2012 7:12 PM, Rodrick Brown wrote:
Python is a glue language much like Perl was 10 years ago. Until the
GIL is fixed I doubt anyone will seriously look at Python as an option
for large enterprise standalone application development.
The GIL is neither a bug to be fixed nor an inherent
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 5:52 PM, Andrew Berg bahamutzero8...@gmail.comwrote:
On 7/29/2012 7:12 PM, Rodrick Brown wrote:
Python is a glue language much like Perl was 10 years ago. Until the
GIL is fixed I doubt anyone will seriously look at Python as an option
for large enterprise
On Jul 29, 2012, at 8:54 PM, Andrew Berg bahamutzero8...@gmail.com wrote:
On 7/29/2012 7:12 PM, Rodrick Brown wrote:
Python is a glue language much like Perl was 10 years ago. Until the
GIL is fixed I doubt anyone will seriously look at Python as an option
for large enterprise standalone
Rodrick Brown rodrick.br...@gmail.com writes:
Hence the reason why no one will seriously look at Python for none
glue work or simple web apps. When it comes to designing complex
applications that need to exploit large multicore systems Python just
isn't an option.
That's wrong, I've run
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