Re: Moderating the list [was: Python and the need for speed]

2017-04-17 Thread breamoreboy
On Thursday, April 13, 2017 at 10:31:22 AM UTC+1, Tim Golden wrote:
> On 13/04/2017 03:39, Jason Friedman wrote:
> >>
> >> However, it's simply a technical fact: the thing which we moderate is the
> >>> mailing list. We can control which posts make it through from the 
> >>> newsgroup
> >>> by blocking them at the gateway. But the posts will continue to appear on
> >>> comp.lang.python which is, as the description says, unmoderated.
> >>>
> >>
> >> TJG
> >
> >
> > Thank you, Tim and Ethan and the other moderators, for performing that
> > function.
> > It makes the reading experience more pleasant for me.
> >
> 
> I looked, for the first time in a long while, at the GG mirror of the 
> newsgroup. Hadn't realised how much of that really nasty all-caps spam 
> we were blocking. (We set up some gateway rules when that started to 
> become a problem so we just don't see it on the mailing list).
> 
> Most of the time we're just binning run-of-the-mill spam. Doesn't take 
> too much effort if you keep on top of it, but it piles up quickly enough 
> if you leave it for a bit!
> 
> TJG

I routinely set all of the upper-case crap to "violent content" on GG just as a 
matter of principle.  There's even been a couple of English versions lately but 
the filters have stopped them, well done :-)

Kindest regards.

Mark Lawrence.
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Re: Moderating the list [was: Python and the need for speed]

2017-04-13 Thread Tim Golden

On 13/04/2017 03:39, Jason Friedman wrote:


However, it's simply a technical fact: the thing which we moderate is the

mailing list. We can control which posts make it through from the newsgroup
by blocking them at the gateway. But the posts will continue to appear on
comp.lang.python which is, as the description says, unmoderated.



TJG



Thank you, Tim and Ethan and the other moderators, for performing that
function.
It makes the reading experience more pleasant for me.



I looked, for the first time in a long while, at the GG mirror of the 
newsgroup. Hadn't realised how much of that really nasty all-caps spam 
we were blocking. (We set up some gateway rules when that started to 
become a problem so we just don't see it on the mailing list).


Most of the time we're just binning run-of-the-mill spam. Doesn't take 
too much effort if you keep on top of it, but it piles up quickly enough 
if you leave it for a bit!


TJG
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Re: Moderating the list [was: Python and the need for speed]

2017-04-12 Thread Jason Friedman
>
> However, it's simply a technical fact: the thing which we moderate is the
>> mailing list. We can control which posts make it through from the newsgroup
>> by blocking them at the gateway. But the posts will continue to appear on
>> comp.lang.python which is, as the description says, unmoderated.
>>
>
> TJG


Thank you, Tim and Ethan and the other moderators, for performing that
function.
It makes the reading experience more pleasant for me.
-- 
https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list


Moderating the list [was: Python and the need for speed]

2017-04-11 Thread Tim Golden

On 11/04/2017 15:20, breamore...@gmail.com wrote:

On Tuesday, April 11, 2017 at 2:32:34 PM UTC+1, Steve D'Aprano
wrote:

On Tue, 11 Apr 2017 07:00 pm, breamoreboy wrote:


While we're at it how do we go about changing this
https://www.python.org/community/lists/ which states that
"comp.lang.python is a high-volume Usenet open (not moderated)
newsgroup for general discussions and questions about Python."?


Change it to what, and why?

As it is, it is correct. comp.lang.python is a high-volume Usenet
unmoderated newsgroup for general discussions related to Python.

-- Steve “Cheer up,” they said, “things could be worse.” So I
cheered up, and sure enough, things got worse.





What exactly do Tim Golden and Ethan Furman moderate on?


We (and the other moderators) exactly moderate the mailing list. I have 
no authority over the newsgroup, and I don't know who does.



You
can be pedantic about what is a newsgroup, or mailing list, or
whatever, but to me they're one and the same thing.


This is something which can cause contention as people from either side 
(mailing list <-> newsgroup) can be completely unaware that they're 
being copied to the other.


However, it's simply a technical fact: the thing which we moderate is 
the mailing list. We can control which posts make it through from the 
newsgroup by blocking them at the gateway. But the posts will continue 
to appear on comp.lang.python which is, as the description says, 
unmoderated.


TJG
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