Re: Moderating the list [was: Python and the need for speed]
On Thursday, April 13, 2017 at 10:31:22 AM UTC+1, Tim Golden wrote: > On 13/04/2017 03:39, Jason Friedman wrote: > >> > >> However, it's simply a technical fact: the thing which we moderate is the > >>> mailing list. We can control which posts make it through from the > >>> newsgroup > >>> by blocking them at the gateway. But the posts will continue to appear on > >>> comp.lang.python which is, as the description says, unmoderated. > >>> > >> > >> TJG > > > > > > Thank you, Tim and Ethan and the other moderators, for performing that > > function. > > It makes the reading experience more pleasant for me. > > > > I looked, for the first time in a long while, at the GG mirror of the > newsgroup. Hadn't realised how much of that really nasty all-caps spam > we were blocking. (We set up some gateway rules when that started to > become a problem so we just don't see it on the mailing list). > > Most of the time we're just binning run-of-the-mill spam. Doesn't take > too much effort if you keep on top of it, but it piles up quickly enough > if you leave it for a bit! > > TJG I routinely set all of the upper-case crap to "violent content" on GG just as a matter of principle. There's even been a couple of English versions lately but the filters have stopped them, well done :-) Kindest regards. Mark Lawrence. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Moderating the list [was: Python and the need for speed]
On 13/04/2017 03:39, Jason Friedman wrote: However, it's simply a technical fact: the thing which we moderate is the mailing list. We can control which posts make it through from the newsgroup by blocking them at the gateway. But the posts will continue to appear on comp.lang.python which is, as the description says, unmoderated. TJG Thank you, Tim and Ethan and the other moderators, for performing that function. It makes the reading experience more pleasant for me. I looked, for the first time in a long while, at the GG mirror of the newsgroup. Hadn't realised how much of that really nasty all-caps spam we were blocking. (We set up some gateway rules when that started to become a problem so we just don't see it on the mailing list). Most of the time we're just binning run-of-the-mill spam. Doesn't take too much effort if you keep on top of it, but it piles up quickly enough if you leave it for a bit! TJG -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Moderating the list [was: Python and the need for speed]
> > However, it's simply a technical fact: the thing which we moderate is the >> mailing list. We can control which posts make it through from the newsgroup >> by blocking them at the gateway. But the posts will continue to appear on >> comp.lang.python which is, as the description says, unmoderated. >> > > TJG Thank you, Tim and Ethan and the other moderators, for performing that function. It makes the reading experience more pleasant for me. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Moderating the list [was: Python and the need for speed]
On 11/04/2017 15:20, breamore...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday, April 11, 2017 at 2:32:34 PM UTC+1, Steve D'Aprano wrote: On Tue, 11 Apr 2017 07:00 pm, breamoreboy wrote: While we're at it how do we go about changing this https://www.python.org/community/lists/ which states that "comp.lang.python is a high-volume Usenet open (not moderated) newsgroup for general discussions and questions about Python."? Change it to what, and why? As it is, it is correct. comp.lang.python is a high-volume Usenet unmoderated newsgroup for general discussions related to Python. -- Steve “Cheer up,” they said, “things could be worse.” So I cheered up, and sure enough, things got worse. What exactly do Tim Golden and Ethan Furman moderate on? We (and the other moderators) exactly moderate the mailing list. I have no authority over the newsgroup, and I don't know who does. You can be pedantic about what is a newsgroup, or mailing list, or whatever, but to me they're one and the same thing. This is something which can cause contention as people from either side (mailing list <-> newsgroup) can be completely unaware that they're being copied to the other. However, it's simply a technical fact: the thing which we moderate is the mailing list. We can control which posts make it through from the newsgroup by blocking them at the gateway. But the posts will continue to appear on comp.lang.python which is, as the description says, unmoderated. TJG -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list