Steven D'Aprano wrote:
I'm amused and somewhat perplexed that somebody with the non-English
name of Stefan, writing from a .de email address, seems to be assuming
that (1) everybody is on the Internet, and (2) everybody on the Internet
speaks English.
Oh, I totally don't. But most people
Mensanator wrote:
On Aug 23, 2:25�pm, Stefan Behnel wrote:
Mensanator wrote:
asking how many Jews you can fit into a Volswagen.
None, because it's already full.
A spelling error does not make it any less offensive.
As it stands, I find the joke above perfectly acceptable. Using the word
On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 09:40:03 +0200, Stefan Behnel wrote:
Or you could enter the 21 century and understand that guys has become
a generic term for people of any sex.
Is that true for everyone who understands and/or writes English? In that
case, I'm fine with your above statement. Otherwise,
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 09:40:03 +0200, Stefan Behnel wrote:
Or you could enter the 21 century and understand that guys has become
a generic term for people of any sex.
Is that true for everyone who understands and/or writes English? In that
case, I'm fine with your above
Simon Brunning wrote:
2009/8/11 Robert Dailey:
On Aug 11, 3:40 pm, Bearophile wrote:
There are gals too here.
It's a figure of speech. And besides, why would I want programming
advice from a woman? lol. Thanks for the help.
Give the attitudes still prevalent in our industry (cf
Jean-Michel Pichavant wrote:
Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2009-08-18, Simon Forman sajmik...@gmail.com wrote:
Sexism, racism, homophobia, religious intolerance, etc., all
stem from a fundamental forgetfulness of our Unity in God (as
I would put it) and this is perhaps the single greatest cause
of
Mensanator wrote:
asking how many Jews you can fit into a Volswagen.
None, because it's already full.
(or voll as those who design Volkswagens would put it...)
Stefan
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On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 20:52:16 +0200, Stefan Behnel wrote:
Simon Brunning wrote:
2009/8/11 Robert Dailey:
On Aug 11, 3:40 pm, Bearophile wrote:
There are gals too here.
It's a figure of speech. And besides, why would I want programming
advice from a woman? lol. Thanks for the help.
Give
On Aug 23, 2:25�pm, Stefan Behnel stefan...@behnel.de wrote:
Mensanator wrote:
asking how many Jews you can fit into a Volswagen.
None, because it's already full.
A spelling error does not make it any less offensive.
(or voll as those who design Volkswagens would put it...)
Stefan
--
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 10:51:08 -0700, Simon Forman wrote:
(FWIW, I've always admired Humpty Dumpty's attitude to words.
When I use a word, Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, it
means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less.
When you say admired, do you mean what the
Simon Forman sajmik...@gmail.com writes:
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 8:42 PM, Ben Finneyben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au wrote:
We're all unified by our humanity. Bringing any god into the picture
is surely counter to any goals of unity.
Unity in humanity is, to my way of thinking, the same as Unity
In article mailman.18.1250595423.2854.python-l...@python.org,
Jean-Michel Pichavant jeanmic...@sequans.com wrote:
MRAB wrote:
Carl Banks wrote:
On Aug 17, 10:03 am, Jean-Michel Pichavant jeanmic...@sequans.com
wrote:
I'm no English native, but I already heard women/men referring to a
group
On Aug 19, 12:05 am, Ben Finney ben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au wrote:
Simon Forman sajmik...@gmail.com writes:
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 8:42 PM, Ben Finneyben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au
wrote:
We're all unified by our humanity. Bringing any god into the picture
is surely counter to any goals of
Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2009-08-18, Simon Forman sajmik...@gmail.com wrote:
Sexism, racism, homophobia, religious intolerance, etc., all
stem from a fundamental forgetfulness of our Unity in God (as
I would put it) and this is perhaps the single greatest cause
of human misery.
You
Simon Forman wrote:
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Steven
D'Apranost...@remove-this-cybersource.com.au wrote:
On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 17:13:02 -0400, Simon Forman wrote:
Sexism, racism, homophobia, religious intolerance, etc., all stem from a
fundamental forgetfulness of our Unity in
On Aug 18, 8:49 pm, Ben Finney ben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au wrote:
Grant Edwards gra...@visi.com writes:
On 2009-08-19, Ben Finney ben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au wrote:
Simon Forman sajmik...@gmail.com writes:
We are one family.
Agreed.
That's not much comfort if you've seen the way many
On Monday 17 August 2009 23:06:04 Carl Banks wrote:
On Aug 17, 10:03 am, Jean-Michel Pichavant jeanmic...@sequans.com
wrote:
I'm no English native, but I already heard women/men referring to a
group as guys, no matter that group gender configuration. It's even
used for group composed
On Tuesday 18 August 2009 06:45:39 Aahz wrote:
In article pan.2009.08.18.04.34...@remove.this.cybersource.com.au,
Steven D'Aprano ste...@remove.this.cybersource.com.au wrote:
The comments were made a week ago -- why the sudden flurry of attention?
Mainly an opportunity to flog the new
MRAB wrote:
Carl Banks wrote:
On Aug 17, 10:03 am, Jean-Michel Pichavant jeanmic...@sequans.com
wrote:
I'm no English native, but I already heard women/men referring to a
group as guys, no matter that group gender configuration. It's even
used for group composed exclusively of women. Moreover
On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 13:36:49 +0200, Jean-Michel Pichavant wrote:
MRAB wrote:
Carl Banks wrote:
On Aug 17, 10:03 am, Jean-Michel Pichavant jeanmic...@sequans.com
wrote:
I'm no English native, but I already heard women/men referring to a
group as guys, no matter that group gender
On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 12:12:14 +0200, Hendrik van Rooyen wrote:
On Tuesday 18 August 2009 06:45:39 Aahz wrote:
In article pan.2009.08.18.04.34...@remove.this.cybersource.com.au,
Steven D'Aprano ste...@remove.this.cybersource.com.au wrote:
The comments were made a week ago -- why the sudden
On 2009-08-17, Carl Banks pavlovevide...@gmail.com wrote:
On Aug 17, 10:03?am, Jean-Michel Pichavant jeanmic...@sequans.com
wrote:
I'm no English native, but I already heard women/men referring to a
group as guys, no matter that group gender configuration. It's even
used for group composed
Robert Dailey:
[...]
It's a figure of speech. And besides, why would I want programming
advice from a woman? lol. Thanks for the help.
Sorry, Robert, simply not acceptable. Whether designed to be funny or
not it's the kind of inane remark I would be really happy never to see
again.
The
Steve Holden wrote:
Robert Dailey:
[...]
It's a figure of speech. And besides, why would I want programming
advice from a woman? lol. Thanks for the help.
Sorry, Robert, simply not acceptable. Whether designed to be funny or
not it's the kind of inane remark I would be really
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Jean-Michel
Pichavantjeanmic...@sequans.com wrote:
Steve Holden wrote:
Robert Dailey:
[...]
It's a figure of speech. And besides, why would I want programming
advice from a woman? lol. Thanks for the help.
Sorry, Robert, simply not acceptable. Whether
On 2009-08-18, Simon Forman sajmik...@gmail.com wrote:
Sexism, racism, homophobia, religious intolerance, etc., all
stem from a fundamental forgetfulness of our Unity in God (as
I would put it) and this is perhaps the single greatest cause
of human misery.
You mean the single greatest cause
On 8/18/2009 2:31 PM Unknown said...
You mean the single greatest cause of human misery isn't
Microsoft Windows?
Either that or users...
Sick-of-both-today-ly y'rs,
Emile
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http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 17:13:02 -0400, Simon Forman wrote:
Sexism, racism, homophobia, religious intolerance, etc., all stem from a
fundamental forgetfulness of our Unity in God (as I would put it) and
Of the tens of thousands of Gods that people have invented, which is the
one we're supposed to
Simon Forman sajmik...@gmail.com writes:
Sexism, racism, homophobia, religious intolerance, etc., all stem from
a fundamental forgetfulness of our Unity in God (as I would put it)
It seems odd, for someone who cites religious intolerance as a problem,
to then assert an extremely divisive
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Steven
D'Apranost...@remove-this-cybersource.com.au wrote:
On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 17:13:02 -0400, Simon Forman wrote:
Sexism, racism, homophobia, religious intolerance, etc., all stem from a
fundamental forgetfulness of our Unity in God (as I would put it) and
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 8:42 PM, Ben Finneyben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au wrote:
Simon Forman sajmik...@gmail.com writes:
Sexism, racism, homophobia, religious intolerance, etc., all stem from
a fundamental forgetfulness of our Unity in God (as I would put it)
It seems odd, for someone who cites
On Aug 18, 7:59�am, Steven D'Aprano st...@remove-this-
cybersource.com.au wrote:
On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 13:36:49 +0200, Jean-Michel Pichavant wrote:
MRAB wrote:
Carl Banks wrote:
On Aug 17, 10:03 am, Jean-Michel Pichavant jeanmic...@sequans.com
wrote:
I'm no English native, but I already
On Aug 17, 11:35�pm, Carl Banks pavlovevide...@gmail.com wrote:
On Aug 17, 8:49�pm, Mensanator mensana...@aol.com wrote:
On Aug 17, 8:04 pm, Carl Banks pavlovevide...@gmail.com wrote:
On Aug 17, 5:40 pm, Mensanator mensana...@aol.com wrote:
On Aug 17, 4:06 pm, Carl Banks
On Aug 18, 6:36�am, Jean-Michel Pichavant jeanmic...@sequans.com
wrote:
MRAB wrote:
Carl Banks wrote:
On Aug 17, 10:03 am, Jean-Michel Pichavant jeanmic...@sequans.com
wrote:
I'm no English native, but I already heard women/men referring to a
group as guys, no matter that group gender
In article 461cc6f1-fc23-4bc7-a719-6f29babf8...@o15g2000yqm.googlegroups.com,
Robert Dailey rcdai...@gmail.com wrote:
It's a figure of speech. And besides, why would I want programming
advice from a woman? lol. Thanks for the help.
Well, I'm sorry to see this, it means I was wrong about the
On 2009-08-11, Bearophile bearophileh...@lycos.com wrote:
Robert Dailey:
This breaks the flow of scope. Would you guys solve this
problem by moving failMsg into global scope? Perhaps through
some other type of syntax?
There are gals too here.
Straying a bit OT, but I find this particular
Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2009-08-11, Bearophile bearophileh...@lycos.com wrote:
Robert Dailey:
This breaks the flow of scope. Would you guys solve this
problem by moving failMsg into global scope? Perhaps through
some other type of syntax?
There are gals too here.
Simon Brunning si...@brunningonline.net (SB) wrote:
SB 2009/8/11 Robert Dailey rcdai...@gmail.com:
On Aug 11, 3:40 pm, Bearophile bearophileh...@lycos.com wrote:
There are gals too here.
It's a figure of speech. And besides, why would I want programming
advice from a woman? lol. Thanks for
Aahz wrote:
In article 461cc6f1-fc23-4bc7-a719-6f29babf8...@o15g2000yqm.googlegroups.com,
Robert Dailey rcdai...@gmail.com wrote:
It's a figure of speech. And besides, why would I want programming
advice from a woman? lol. Thanks for the help.
Well, I'm sorry to see this, it means I
You'll know that Python is sexist the day you'll find the title 'No
women allowed' on the python main document page.
Good God I hope you're being ironic.
On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:23:39 -0700, Jean-Michel Pichavant
jeanmic...@sequans.com wrote:
Aahz wrote:
In article
On 17 Aug, 19:23, Jean-Michel Pichavant jeanmic...@sequans.com
wrote:
Are you suggesting this list reject part of the community regarding its
sexual orientation, ethnicity, size, culture? If that was the case I'd
like to know about it.
Careful: you probably meant to write rejects, not reject.
On Aug 17, 10:03 am, Jean-Michel Pichavant jeanmic...@sequans.com
wrote:
I'm no English native, but I already heard women/men referring to a
group as guys, no matter that group gender configuration. It's even
used for group composed exclusively of women. Moreover it looks like a
*very*
On Aug 17, 8:44 am, a...@pythoncraft.com (Aahz) wrote:
In article
461cc6f1-fc23-4bc7-a719-6f29babf8...@o15g2000yqm.googlegroups.com,
Robert Dailey rcdai...@gmail.com wrote:
It's a figure of speech. And besides, why would I want programming
advice from a woman? lol. Thanks for the help.
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Carl Bankspavlovevide...@gmail.com wrote:
On Aug 17, 8:44 am, a...@pythoncraft.com (Aahz) wrote:
In article
461cc6f1-fc23-4bc7-a719-6f29babf8...@o15g2000yqm.googlegroups.com,
Robert Dailey rcdai...@gmail.com wrote:
It's a figure of speech. And besides, why
Carl Banks wrote:
On Aug 17, 10:03 am, Jean-Michel Pichavant jeanmic...@sequans.com
wrote:
I'm no English native, but I already heard women/men referring to a
group as guys, no matter that group gender configuration. It's even
used for group composed exclusively of women. Moreover it looks like
Robert Dailey rcdai...@gmail.com writes:
On Aug 11, 3:40 pm, Bearophile bearophileh...@lycos.com wrote:
Robert Dailey:
This breaks the flow of scope. Would you guys solve this
problem by […]
There are gals too here.
It's a figure of speech.
Indeed. When I use the term “guys” as a
On Aug 12, 6:52 am, Robert Dailey rcdai...@gmail.com wrote:
On Aug 11, 3:40 pm, Bearophile bearophileh...@lycos.com wrote:
Robert Dailey:
This breaks the flow of scope. Would you guys solve this
problem by moving failMsg into global scope?
Perhaps through some other type of syntax?
On Aug 17, 4:06 pm, Carl Banks pavlovevide...@gmail.com wrote:
On Aug 17, 10:03 am, Jean-Michel Pichavant jeanmic...@sequans.com
wrote:
I'm no English native, but I already heard women/men referring to a
group as guys, no matter that group gender configuration. It's even
used for group
On Aug 17, 5:40 pm, Mensanator mensana...@aol.com wrote:
On Aug 17, 4:06 pm, Carl Banks pavlovevide...@gmail.com wrote:
On Aug 17, 10:03 am, Jean-Michel Pichavant jeanmic...@sequans.com
wrote:
I'm no English native, but I already heard women/men referring to a
group as guys, no matter
On Aug 17, 8:04�pm, Carl Banks pavlovevide...@gmail.com wrote:
On Aug 17, 5:40�pm, Mensanator mensana...@aol.com wrote:
On Aug 17, 4:06�pm, Carl Banks pavlovevide...@gmail.com wrote:
On Aug 17, 10:03�am, Jean-Michel Pichavant jeanmic...@sequans.com
wrote:
I'm no English native, but
On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:31:51 -0700, Chris Rebert wrote:
Oh come on, one newbie making an off-color joke is not any sort of
reflection of the community as a whole.
Anyway it's pretty naive to expect what is now a large community to
avoid bad eggs altogether. Price you pay for popularity.
On Aug 17, 8:49 pm, Mensanator mensana...@aol.com wrote:
On Aug 17, 8:04 pm, Carl Banks pavlovevide...@gmail.com wrote:
On Aug 17, 5:40 pm, Mensanator mensana...@aol.com wrote:
On Aug 17, 4:06 pm, Carl Banks pavlovevide...@gmail.com wrote:
On Aug 17, 10:03 am, Jean-Michel
On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:04:58 -0700, Carl Banks wrote:
On Aug 17, 5:40 pm, Mensanator mensana...@aol.com wrote:
On Aug 17, 4:06 pm, Carl Banks pavlovevide...@gmail.com wrote:
On Aug 17, 10:03 am, Jean-Michel Pichavant jeanmic...@sequans.com
wrote:
I'm no English native, but I already
In article pan.2009.08.18.04.34...@remove.this.cybersource.com.au,
Steven D'Aprano ste...@remove.this.cybersource.com.au wrote:
The comments were made a week ago -- why the sudden flurry of attention?
Mainly an opportunity to flog the new diversity list.
--
Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com)
On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:35:48 -0700, Carl Banks wrote:
I like how being very friendly means calling people after a guy
who tried to blow up the English Parliament.
So?
I also like how making an amusing pointless observation
Pointless, yes, but what was amusing abot the
2009/8/11 Robert Dailey rcdai...@gmail.com:
On Aug 11, 3:40 pm, Bearophile bearophileh...@lycos.com wrote:
There are gals too here.
It's a figure of speech. And besides, why would I want programming
advice from a woman? lol. Thanks for the help.
Give the attitudes still prevalent in our
On Tuesday 11 August 2009 22:52:34 Robert Dailey wrote:
On Aug 11, 3:40 pm, Bearophile bearophileh...@lycos.com wrote:
Robert Dailey:
This breaks the flow of scope. Would you guys solve this
problem by moving failMsg into global scope?
Perhaps through some other type of syntax?
Hendrik van Rooyen wrote:
On Tuesday 11 August 2009 22:52:34 Robert Dailey wrote:
On Aug 11, 3:40 pm, Bearophile bearophileh...@lycos.com wrote:
Robert Dailey:
This breaks the flow of scope. Would you guys solve this
problem by moving failMsg into global scope?
Perhaps through some other type
Simon Brunning wrote:
2009/8/11 Robert Dailey rcdai...@gmail.com:
On Aug 11, 3:40 pm, Bearophile bearophileh...@lycos.com wrote:
There are gals too here.
It's a figure of speech. And besides, why would I want programming
advice from a woman? lol. Thanks for the help.
On 01:27 pm, jeanmic...@sequans.com wrote:
Simon Brunning wrote:
2009/8/11 Robert Dailey rcdai...@gmail.com:
On Aug 11, 3:40 pm, Bearophile bearophileh...@lycos.com wrote:
There are gals too here.
It's a figure of speech. And besides, why would I want programming
advice from a woman? lol.
On Aug 12, 9:09 am, exar...@twistedmatrix.com wrote:
On 01:27 pm, jeanmic...@sequans.com wrote:
Simon Brunning wrote:
2009/8/11 Robert Dailey rcdai...@gmail.com:
On Aug 11, 3:40 pm, Bearophile bearophileh...@lycos.com wrote:
There are gals too here.
It's a figure of speech. And besides,
On Aug 12, 9:41 am, Robert Dailey rcdai...@gmail.com wrote:
On Aug 12, 9:09 am, exar...@twistedmatrix.com wrote:
On 01:27 pm, jeanmic...@sequans.com wrote:
Simon Brunning wrote:
2009/8/11 Robert Dailey rcdai...@gmail.com:
On Aug 11, 3:40 pm, Bearophile bearophileh...@lycos.com
On Aug 12, 10:41 am, Robert Dailey rcdai...@gmail.com wrote:
On Aug 12, 9:09 am, exar...@twistedmatrix.com wrote:
On 01:27 pm, jeanmic...@sequans.com wrote:
Simon Brunning wrote:
2009/8/11 Robert Dailey rcdai...@gmail.com:
On Aug 11, 3:40 pm, Bearophile bearophileh...@lycos.com wrote:
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 07:47:58 -0700, Robert Dailey wrote:
On Aug 12, 9:41 am, Robert Dailey rcdai...@gmail.com wrote:
...
I was actually joking about my remark, I was making fun of the fact
that Bearophile took my figure of speech literally.
Keep in mind that the Internet is a global
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:11:43 -0700, Simon Forman wrote:
[quoting Robert Dailey]
I cannot completely doubt that there are logical
women out there. I just haven't seen one yet. But that doesn't mean I'm
a sexist.
Oh my. And you were doing so well. You haven't seen a logical woman?
Perhaps
Robert Dailey rcdai...@gmail.com writes:
Hey guys. Being a C++ programmer, I like to keep variable definitions
close to the location in which they will be used. This improves
readability in many ways. However, when I have a multi-line string
definition at function level scope, things get
Hey guys. Being a C++ programmer, I like to keep variable definitions
close to the location in which they will be used. This improves
readability in many ways. However, when I have a multi-line string
definition at function level scope, things get tricky because of the
indents. In this case
On Aug 11, 3:08 pm, Robert Dailey rcdai...@gmail.com wrote:
Hey guys. Being a C++ programmer, I like to keep variable definitions
close to the location in which they will be used. This improves
readability in many ways. However, when I have a multi-line string
definition at function level
Robert Dailey wrote:
On Aug 11, 3:08 pm, Robert Dailey rcdai...@gmail.com wrote:
Hey guys. Being a C++ programmer, I like to keep variable definitions
close to the location in which they will be used. This improves
readability in many ways. However, when I have a multi-line string
definition at
Robert Dailey:
This breaks the flow of scope. Would you guys solve this
problem by moving failMsg into global scope?
Perhaps through some other type of syntax?
There are gals too here.
This may help:
http://docs.python.org/library/textwrap.html#textwrap.dedent
Bye,
bearophile
--
On Aug 11, 3:40 pm, Bearophile bearophileh...@lycos.com wrote:
Robert Dailey:
This breaks the flow of scope. Would you guys solve this
problem by moving failMsg into global scope?
Perhaps through some other type of syntax?
There are gals too here.
This may
Robert Dailey wrote:
Hey guys. Being a C++ programmer, I like to keep variable definitions
close to the location in which they will be used. This improves
readability in many ways. However, when I have a multi-line string
definition at function level scope, things get tricky because of the
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