Re: OT: MoinMoin and Mediawiki?

Ian Bicking <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If the data has to be somewhere, and you have to have relatively > random access to it (i.e., access any page; not necessarily a chunk of > a page), then the filesystem does that pretty well, with lots of good > features like caching and whatnot. I can't s

Re: OT: MoinMoin and Mediawiki?

Paul Rubin wrote: If you are just trying to avoid too many files in a directory, another option is to put files in subdirectories like: base = struct.pack('i', hash(page_name)) base = base.encode('base64').strip().strip('=') filename = os.path.join(base, page_name) Using subdirectories certainly k

Re: OT: MoinMoin and Mediawiki?

Ian Bicking <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > That sounds like you'd be implementing your own filesystem ;) Yes, this shouldn't be any surprise. Implementing a special purpose file system what every database essentially does. > If you are just trying to avoid too many files in a directory, another >

Re: OT: MoinMoin and Mediawiki?

Paul Rubin wrote: Paul Rubin writes: How does it do that? It has to scan every page in the entire wiki?! That's totally impractical for a large wiki. So you want to say that c2 is not a large wiki? :-) I don't know how big c2 is. My idea of a large wiki is Wikipedia. My

Re: OT: MoinMoin and Mediawiki?

Paul Rubin writes: > > > How does it do that? It has to scan every page in the entire wiki?! > > > That's totally impractical for a large wiki. > > > > So you want to say that c2 is not a large wiki? :-) > > I don't know how big c2 is. My idea of a large wiki is Wikip

Re: OT: MoinMoin and Mediawiki?

Alexander Schremmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > How does it do that? It has to scan every page in the entire wiki?! > > That's totally impractical for a large wiki. > > So you want to say that c2 is not a large wiki? :-) I don't know how big c2 is. My idea of a large wiki is Wikipedia. My g

Re: OT: MoinMoin and Mediawiki?

On 11 Jan 2005 21:24:51 -0800, Paul Rubin wrote: [backlinks] >> Searching instead of indexing makes it very resilient :-) > > How does it do that? It has to scan every page in the entire wiki?! > That's totally impractical for a large wiki. So you want to say that c2 is not a large wiki? :-) K

Re: OT: MoinMoin and Mediawiki?

Brion Vibber wrote: Paul Rubin wrote: I think mod_php doesn't play nice with apache2 but am not aware of any cgi interoperability problems. Generally it's recommended to configure apache2 in the child process mode (eg the way that 1.3 works) when using PHP as many library modules are alleged not

Re: OT: MoinMoin and Mediawiki?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (David M. Cooke) writes: > >> > lists of incoming links to wiki pages, > ... > Most Wiki implementations (MoinMoin included) have this, by using a > search. Usually, following the original Wiki (http://c2.com/cgi/wiki) > model, you get at it by clicking on the title of the page. >

Re: OT: MoinMoin and Mediawiki?

Paul Rubin writes: > Alexander Schremmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > lists of incoming links to wiki pages, >> >> It does. > > Huh? I don't see those. How does it store them, that's resilient > across crashes? Or does it just get wedged if there's a crash? Mos

Re: OT: MoinMoin and Mediawiki?

Paul Rubin wrote: I think mod_php doesn't play nice with apache2 but am not aware of any cgi interoperability problems. Generally it's recommended to configure apache2 in the child process mode (eg the way that 1.3 works) when using PHP as many library modules are alleged not to be threadsafe. So

Re: OT: MoinMoin and Mediawiki?

Alexander Schremmer schrieb: Having a DBMS backend is good in your opinion? It has some severe disadvantages like not easy to scale (you would need to setup DBMS replication), two potential points of failure, more complex setup, bigger memory requirements, etc. So nobody should use DBMS backends, r

Re: OT: MoinMoin and Mediawiki?

On 11 Jan 2005 08:49:52 -0800, Paul Rubin wrote: > Alexander Schremmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> I need to set up a wiki for a small group. I've played with MoinMoin >>> a little bit and it's reasonably straightforward to set up, but >>> limited in capabilities and uses BogusMarkupConventio

Re: OT: MoinMoin and Mediawiki?

Alexander Schremmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > It doesn't have features that MW has, like user pages, > > It does. Oops, correct, however, they're not anything like MW's, which are almost like an internal email system inside the wiki. You can sign any comment with ~~~ or and it generat

Re: OT: MoinMoin and Mediawiki?

Robin Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > A few months ago I tried and failed to get squirrelmail/php to run > with Apache2 and freeBSD 4.9. It seems that php prefers the old style > apache 1.3 work flow. I got some help from the php guys, but not > enough. I suppose I could have run a separate a

Re: OT: MoinMoin and Mediawiki?

Paul Rubin wrote: Brion Vibber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: MediaWiki should run with PHP configured in CGI handler mode, but these days mod_php has got its claws just about everywhere anyway. If you control your own server and don't have multi-user security worries, mod_php is simple enough to inst

Re: OT: MoinMoin and Mediawiki?

Richie Hindle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > [MoinMoin] doesn't have [...] automatic update notification for > > specific pages of your choice > > Yes it does. See http://entrian.com/sbwiki for example - register there > and you'll see in your preferences "Subscribed wiki pages (one regex per O

Re: OT: MoinMoin and Mediawiki?

[Paul] > [MoinMoin] doesn't have [...] automatic update notification for > specific pages of your choice Yes it does. See http://entrian.com/sbwiki for example - register there and you'll see in your preferences "Subscribed wiki pages (one regex per line)" > The BogusMixedCaseLinkNames. I'd ra

Re: OT: MoinMoin and Mediawiki?

Alexander Schremmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I need to set up a wiki for a small group. I've played with MoinMoin > > a little bit and it's reasonably straightforward to set up, but > > limited in capabilities and uses BogusMarkupConventions. > > At which point do you see limitations? It

Re: OT: MoinMoin and Mediawiki?

On 10 Jan 2005 18:45:16 -0800, Paul Rubin wrote: > I need to set up a wiki for a small group. I've played with MoinMoin > a little bit and it's reasonably straightforward to set up, but > limited in capabilities and uses BogusMarkupConventions. At which point do you see limitations? And what of

Re: OT: MoinMoin and Mediawiki?

Brion Vibber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > MediaWiki should run with PHP configured in CGI handler mode, but > these days mod_php has got its claws just about everywhere anyway. If > you control your own server and don't have multi-user security > worries, mod_php is simple enough to install and wi

Re: OT: MoinMoin and Mediawiki?

Paul Rubin wrote: > What I'm getting at is I might like to install MoinMoin now and > migrate to Mediawiki sometime later. Anyone have any thoughts about > whether that's a crazy plan? Disclaimer, I am neither using Moinmoin nor Mediawiki, and don't really have your answer. >From what I rea

Re: OT: MoinMoin and Mediawiki?

Paul Rubin wrote: Mediawiki is written in PHP and is far more complex than MoinMoin, plus it's database backed, meaning you have to run an SQL server as well as the wiki software itself (MoinMoin just uses the file system). Plus, I'll guess that it really needs mod_php, while MoinMoin runs tolerab

OT: MoinMoin and Mediawiki?

I need to set up a wiki for a small group. I've played with MoinMoin a little bit and it's reasonably straightforward to set up, but limited in capabilities and uses BogusMarkupConventions. I want to use it anyway because I need something running right away and I don't want to spend a whole lot o