Re: Python compared to other language

2007-05-21 Thread Michael L Torrie
On Mon, 2007-05-21 at 16:00 +0200, Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch wrote: > In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >> Python is a strongly typed but dynamic language ... > > > > In the "A few questions" thread, John Nagle's summary of Python begins > > "Python is a byte-code interpreted

Re: Python compared to other language

2007-05-21 Thread Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Python is a strongly typed but dynamic language ... > > In the "A few questions" thread, John Nagle's summary of Python begins > "Python is a byte-code interpreted untyped procedural dynamic > language with implicit declaration. " > > Is Python

Re: Python compared to other language

2007-05-21 Thread Neil Cerutti
On 2007-05-21, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Python is a strongly typed but dynamic language ... > > In the "A few questions" thread, John Nagle's summary of Python > begins "Python is a byte-code interpreted untyped procedural > dynamic language with implicit declaration. " > > I

Re: Python compared to other language

2007-05-21 Thread Mark Morss
On May 20, 5:02 pm, Bruno Desthuilliers >Ruby is probably far better than Python at sys-admin tasks. Why, pray tell? I don't know much about Ruby, but I know that Python is the language that Gentoo uses for package management, which certainly qualifies as a sys-admin task. -- http://mail.pytho

Re: Python compared to other language

2007-05-21 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Python is a strongly typed but dynamic language ... In the "A few questions" thread, John Nagle's summary of Python begins "Python is a byte-code interpreted untyped procedural dynamic language with implicit declaration. " Is Python strongly typed or untyped? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman

Sysad tasks (was: Python compared to other language)

2007-05-21 Thread Cameron Laird
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bruno Desthuilliers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: . . . >Ruby is probably far better than Python at sys-admin tasks. And, while . .

Re: Python compared to other language

2007-05-20 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
walterbyrd a écrit : > On May 18, 10:24 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Martelli) wrote: > > >>I think that Ruby, which roughly speaking sits somewhere between Python >>and Perl, is closer to Python than Perl is. > > > I don't know much about Ruby, but it does not seem to be commonly used > for any

Re: Python compared to other language

2007-05-20 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> PHP was definitely born _for_ webpages; Ruby wasn't, just like Perl or > Python weren't, it just became very popular for webpages when Rails > appeared. In this kind of discussion, I get always reminded that Perl stands for "Practical Extraction and Report Language". So Perl _clearly_ is for gen

Re: Python compared to other language

2007-05-20 Thread Martin v. Löwis
>> But that is my point. With Python, the language itself takes care of >> the platform differences, so the same Python code will run on >> different platforms. I realize that, at a lower level, everything is >> done is C. But, from the developers point of view: developing code in >> C requires mor

Re: [Bulk] Re: Python compared to other language

2007-05-19 Thread scott
Michael Torrie wrote: > I think the original poster will find Python, and may wxPython, > satisfies the bulk of his development needs. True, I like how Python is a general language that can be used for many different purposes and hope to learn wxPython as well. I have read through the archives

Re: Python compared to other language

2007-05-19 Thread Michael Torrie
On Fri, 2007-05-18 at 22:28 -0400, Steve Holden wrote: > Surely the fact that Python is available on so many platforms implies > that C is a fairly portable language. I realise that you have to take > platform specifics into account much more than you do in Python, but I > do feel you are being

Re: Python compared to other language

2007-05-19 Thread Steve Holden
walterbyrd wrote: > On May 19, 7:23 am, Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> The reason you can do this with Python is precisely because the >> developers have ironed out the wrinkles between platforms by putting the >> requisite conditionals in the C source. > > But that is my point. Wit

Re: Python compared to other language

2007-05-19 Thread walterbyrd
On May 19, 9:36 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Martelli) wrote: > > From these numbers it would seem that Ruby (and PHP) aren't really more > web-specific than Perl (and Python). > Excellent find, nice work. However, if it is found that there are "X" many PHP programs running payroll applications, do

Re: Python compared to other language

2007-05-19 Thread walterbyrd
On May 19, 7:23 am, Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The reason you can do this with Python is precisely because the > developers have ironed out the wrinkles between platforms by putting the > requisite conditionals in the C source. But that is my point. With Python, the language itself

Re: Python compared to other language

2007-05-19 Thread Alex Martelli
walterbyrd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On May 18, 10:24 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Martelli) wrote: > > > > > I think that Ruby, which roughly speaking sits somewhere between Python > > and Perl, is closer to Python than Perl is. > > I don't know much about Ruby, but it does not seem to be com

Re: Python compared to other language

2007-05-19 Thread Steve Holden
walterbyrd wrote: > On May 18, 8:28 pm, Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Surely the fact that Python is available on so many platforms implies >> that C is a fairly portable language. > > Unless it's the same C code, I don't see how that means anything. If I > write an app on Windows

Re: Python compared to other language

2007-05-19 Thread Gabriel Genellina
En Sat, 19 May 2007 03:24:15 -0300, walterbyrd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > My guess is that some of the C code used to develop Python is the same > between the different Python distros, but much of the code is unique > to the particular platform. If that is the case, then the C code may > no

Re: Python compared to other language

2007-05-18 Thread walterbyrd
On May 18, 10:24 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Martelli) wrote: > > I think that Ruby, which roughly speaking sits somewhere between Python > and Perl, is closer to Python than Perl is. I don't know much about Ruby, but it does not seem to be commonly used for anything other than web-development. I

Re: Python compared to other language

2007-05-18 Thread walterbyrd
On May 18, 8:28 pm, Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Surely the fact that Python is available on so many platforms implies > that C is a fairly portable language. Unless it's the same C code, I don't see how that means anything. If I write an app on Windows with C, and I rewrite the same

Re: Python compared to other language

2007-05-18 Thread Alex Martelli
walterbyrd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - IMO: the most comparable language to Python, is Perl. Both are > scripting languages. Both are free, multi-platform, and multi-purpose. > Both are also very popular. I think that Ruby, which roughly speaking sits somewhere between Python and Perl, is clos

Re: Python compared to other language

2007-05-18 Thread Steve Holden
walterbyrd wrote: > On May 18, 2:17 pm, Larry Bates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Python is Portable - C is probably the only more portable language > > Small quibble: IMO, although C runs on many platforms, I don't think C > code is typically portable between platorms. Unless you are doing > s

Re: Python compared to other language

2007-05-18 Thread walterbyrd
On May 18, 2:17 pm, Larry Bates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Python is Portable - C is probably the only more portable language Small quibble: IMO, although C runs on many platforms, I don't think C code is typically portable between platorms. Unless you are doing something very simple. If you wr

Re: Python compared to other language

2007-05-18 Thread scott
Thank you everyone for your help. I will make sure to check the archives, something I should have done first :) -- Your friend, Scott Sent to you from a 100% Linux computer using Kubuntu Version 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python compared to other language

2007-05-18 Thread Stef Mientki
scott wrote: > Hi all, > > I have been looking at the various programming languages available. > I have programed in Basic since I was a teenager and I also have a basic > understanding of C, but I want something better. > > Can anybody tell me the benefits and weaknesses of using Pyth

Re: Python compared to other language

2007-05-18 Thread Cameron Laird
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Beliavsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On May 18, 3:04 pm, scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I have been looking at the various programming languages available. >> I >> have programed in Basic since I was a teenager and I also have a basic >

Re: Python compared to other language

2007-05-18 Thread Larry Bates
scott wrote: > Hi all, > > I have been looking at the various programming languages available. > I have programed in Basic since I was a teenager and I also have a basic > understanding of C, but I want something better. > > Can anybody tell me the benefits and weaknesses of using Python

Re: Python compared to other language

2007-05-18 Thread Michael Bentley
On May 18, 2007, at 2:04 PM, scott wrote: > > I have been looking at the various programming languages > available. I > have programed in Basic since I was a teenager and I also have a basic > understanding of C, but I want something better. > > Can anybody tell me the benefits and

Re: Python compared to other language

2007-05-18 Thread Beliavsky
On May 18, 3:04 pm, scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > I have been looking at the various programming languages available. I > have programed in Basic since I was a teenager and I also have a basic > understanding of C, but I want something better. > > Can anybody tell

Python compared to other language

2007-05-18 Thread scott
Hi all, I have been looking at the various programming languages available. I have programed in Basic since I was a teenager and I also have a basic understanding of C, but I want something better. Can anybody tell me the benefits and weaknesses of using Python? -- Your frien