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Aloha!
On 2011:02:24 08:04 , Rafe Kettler wrote:
It's not a matter of language maturity, Python is very mature, it's a
matter of design. Python is a high-level, garbage-collected,
interpreted language, and that's not the ideal type of language for
Apologies if this has been asked; I haven't yet Googled the archives.
From a brief email conversation, Guido pointed me to this newsgroup to
ask the following questions:
Is Python 'mature' enough to be considered the primary language for
embedded systems? Is the performance there for real-time
Paulito paul...@gmail.com writes:
Is Python 'mature' enough to be considered the primary language for
embedded systems? Is the performance there for real-time applications
(eg avionics, real-time control systems) or is it still more suitable
...as a glue language, used to combine components
On Feb 23, 6:53 pm, Paulito paul...@gmail.com wrote:
Apologies if this has been asked; I haven't yet Googled the archives.
From a brief email conversation, Guido pointed me to this newsgroup to
ask the following questions:
Is Python 'mature' enough to be considered the primary language for
Hi,
Is there anyone using python for embedded systems development ?
I have no idea where to start with. Google was of little help.
Will appreciate if someone could guide me on from where to start.
Regards
Vgnu
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Hello,
Using the best fit for Python will not be a problem, because Python makes
allocations of lot of small size blocks.So those split blocks of small sizes
are used by Python sometime. And what I observed from my investigation with
the memory manager(MM) for Python is , with any MM we cannot
En Mon, 11 Jun 2007 15:59:19 -0300, vishnu [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:
So now I only see the solution to clear my memory pool and restart Python
without restarting the system (i.e. no power cycle to hardware). I tried
to
do this when my memory pool is 60% used in these steps:
1)
Hi,
Thanks Cameron for your suggestions.
In fact I am using custom memory sub-allocator where I preallocate a
pool of memory during initialization of my application and ensure that
Python doesn't make any system mallocs later . With this arrangement,
python seems to run out of preallocated memory
On Jun 9, 1:33 pm, vishnu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
Thanks Cameron for your suggestions.
In fact I am using custom memory sub-allocator where I preallocate a
pool of memory during initialization of my application and ensure that
Python doesn't make any system mallocs later . With this
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
vishnu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi there,
I am embedding python 2.5 on embedded system running on RTOS where I
had strict memory constraints.
As python is a huge malloc intensive application, I observed huge
memory fragmentation in my system which is leading to out
Who else is using python (programmers, scientists, finance)?
Me! Graduated in fine arts. Python is what I do when I am fed up with
all those colors. Much easier to manufacture sense with.
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Hi there,
I am embedding python 2.5 on embedded system running on RTOS where I
had strict memory constraints.
As python is a huge malloc intensive application, I observed huge
memory fragmentation in my system which is leading to out of memory
after running few scripts.
So I decided to
J Is there a Python packaging that is specifically for
J embedded systems? ie, very small and configurable so the
J user gets to select what modules to install?
J For Linux-based embedded systems in particular?
J I'm thinking of running it on the Linksys's Linux-based open
J source router
Carl J. Van Arsdall wrote:
This raises a good question. Is there a need for python to change
somewhat to work better in an embedded profile?
When I asked this question last on python-dev, there was exactly one
response, and that was yes, it needs to change.
The natural question then is in
Carl J. Van Arsdall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wrote:
To: python-list@python.org
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 7:36 PM
Subject: Re: Python for Embedded Systems?
| Grant Edwards wrote:
| On 2006-07-14, Jack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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| Is there a Python packaging that is specifically for
| embedded
Jack a écrit :
If Python is not the best candidate for embedded systems because
of the size, what (scripting) language would you recommend?
PHP may fit but I don't quite like the language. Anything else?
Loa is small but it does not seem to be powerful enough.
You mean Lua ? Not powerful
H J van Rooyen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What is the minimum set of instructions and structure needed to make a
simplistic Python? - does anybody know?
There have been lots of Lisps for the PDP-11 and comparable machines.
Python's runtime semantics are close enough to Lisp that you could
Paul Rubin http://[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
SIOD was a well known very small Scheme interpreter that you might
like to play with:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIOD
Here's another one that I like. I haven't actually used it but
studied it for possible integration in an embedded project that
Jack wrote:
Is there a Python packaging that is specifically for
embedded systems? ie, very small and configurable so the
user gets to select what modules to install?
You might also look at the gumstix embedded system, Linux running on an
ARM processor in an extremely small form factor.
Jack wrote:
Is there a Python packaging that is specifically for
embedded systems? ie, very small and configurable so the
user gets to select what modules to install?
For Linux-based embedded systems in particular?
I'm thinking of running it on the Linksys's Linux-based open
source router
On-board Ethernet and CAN (Controller Area Network - wireless)
Ooops, my bad - CAN is not wireless, it is a serial network
specifically for linking with other ucontroller boards.
I was thinking of the onboard Bluetooth of the gumstix boards.
-- Paul
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Yes, I mean Lua, not Loa :-p
Lua is a nice language. Like you said, it doesn't have many libraries
as Python does. Plus, it's still evolving and the libraries are changing.
I found a few functions not working last time I tried kepler libraries.
It's good for embedded systems though because of
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Jack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, I mean Lua, not Loa :-p
Lua is a nice language. Like you said, it doesn't have many libraries
as Python does. Plus, it's still evolving and the libraries are changing.
I found a few functions not working last time I tried kepler
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Carl J. Van Arsdall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
.
.
.
This raises a good question. Is there a need for python to change
somewhat to work better in an embedded profile? Are there many people
in
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cameron Laird) writes:
Yes and no. Python could thrive for the next decade while
utterly surrendering the small-and-embedded domain to Forth,
Lua, Tcl, Scheme, and so on, so, no, there's no *need* for a
TinyPython. On the other hand, yes, there are at least several
of us
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Paul Rubin http://[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cameron Laird) writes:
Yes and no. Python could thrive for the next decade while
utterly surrendering the small-and-embedded domain to Forth,
Lua, Tcl, Scheme, and so on, so, no, there's no *need* for
Is there a Python packaging that is specifically for
embedded systems? ie, very small and configurable so the
user gets to select what modules to install?
For Linux-based embedded systems in particular?
I'm thinking of running it on the Linksys's Linux-based open
source router WRT54G. It has 4MB
On 2006-07-14, Jack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is there a Python packaging that is specifically for
embedded systems? ie, very small and configurable so the
user gets to select what modules to install?
For Linux-based embedded systems in particular?
I'm thinking of running it on the Linksys's
Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2006-07-14, Jack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is there a Python packaging that is specifically for
embedded systems? ie, very small and configurable so the
user gets to select what modules to install?
For Linux-based embedded systems in particular?
I'm thinking of
Jack wrote:
...snip...
If Python is not the best candidate for embedded systems because
of the size, what (scripting) language would you recommend?
TCL is fairly popular in the embedded space. Fairly small footprint.
The syntax is not to everyone's taste.
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Here's an URL to a project that appears to be dated from 2004 --
http://skreak.com/wrt54g/python.php.
Jack wrote:
Is there a Python packaging that is specifically for
embedded systems? ie, very small and configurable so the
user gets to select what modules to install?
For Linux-based
Jack wrote:
Is there a Python packaging that is specifically for
embedded systems? ie, very small and configurable so the
user gets to select what modules to install?
For Linux-based embedded systems in particular?
I'm thinking of running it on the Linksys's Linux-based open
source router
Or Python on the Zaurus, which I used to develop a wifi CRM app on a
group of refurb Sharp Zaurus SL-5500 units. Here's a link to the Python
implementation on the Z -- http://starship.python.net/~hinsen/Zaurus/.
Grzegorz Makarewicz wrote:
Jack wrote:
Is there a Python packaging that is
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