Re: Questions about LISP and Python.

2011-12-08 Thread Andrea Crotti
On 12/08/2011 04:10 AM, Rick Johnson wrote: ... Why has GvR not admonished the atrocious behavior of some people in this community? Why has GvR not admitted publicly the hideous state of IDLE and Tkinter? Where is the rally call? Where is the community spirit? The future of Pythin is in your

Re: Questions about LISP and Python.

2011-12-08 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 10:10 PM, Andrea Crotti andrea.crott...@gmail.com wrote: Supposing even that Guido resigns, why do you think that the power should go to you? Power is not something that you can claim for, you have to earn the right, and ranting doesn't normally buy anything ;) Power

Re: Questions about LISP and Python.

2011-12-08 Thread Matt Joiner
Guido is too busy secretly pouring his cruelty and malice into a master ring to answer trolls. Help yourself to a lesser ring on your way out. On Dec 8, 2011 10:14 PM, Andrea Crotti andrea.crott...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/08/2011 04:10 AM, Rick Johnson wrote: ... Why has GvR not admonished

Re: Questions about LISP and Python.

2011-12-08 Thread MRAB
On 08/12/2011 04:10, Rick Johnson wrote: [snip] I believe this community has a cancer. A cancer that is rotting us from the inside. A cancer that has metastasis and is spreading like wild fire. pedanticThe problem with a cancer is not that it rots, but that it grows uncontrollably./pedantic

Re: Questions about LISP and Python.

2011-12-08 Thread Ben Finney
MRAB pyt...@mrabarnett.plus.com writes: GvR isn't our leader, we are his followers. There's a difference. :-) +1 QotW -- \ “Guaranteed to work throughout its useful life.” —packaging for | `\ clockwork toy, Hong Kong | _o__)

Re: Questions about LISP and Python.

2011-12-07 Thread Andrea Crotti
On 12/06/2011 04:36 AM, Xah Lee wrote: i don't like python, and i prefer emacs lisp. The primary reason is that python is not functional, especially with python 3. The python community is full of fanatics with their drivels. In that respect, it's not unlike Common Lisp community and Scheme lisp

Re: Questions about LISP and Python.

2011-12-07 Thread Terry Reedy
On 12/7/2011 5:14 AM, Andrea Crotti wrote: On 12/06/2011 04:36 AM, Xah Lee wrote: i don't like python, and i prefer emacs lisp. The primary reason is that python is not functional, especially with python 3. The python community is full of fanatics with their drivels. In that respect, it's not

Re: Questions about LISP and Python.

2011-12-07 Thread Neil Cerutti
On 2011-12-07, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote: It does not pretend that surrounding statements with parentheses turns them into expressions. ;-) I like being in a sexpression. Aww YEH! -- (Neil Cerutti) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Questions about LISP and Python.

2011-12-07 Thread Rick Johnson
On Dec 6, 10:58 am, Ian Kelly ian.g.ke...@gmail.com wrote: (snip... beautiful retort) Ian you make some damn good points and i could not help but laugh hysterically at your dissection of Xah's tutorial. I don't 100% agree with everything Mr. Lee rants about, like for instance, documents needing

Re: Questions about LISP and Python.

2011-12-07 Thread Rick Johnson
On Dec 6, 9:52 pm, alex23 wuwe...@gmail.com wrote: (snip rambling nonsense) Alex, i hope you are being theatrical with all this. If not, i fear you may be putting too much stress on your heart. Please calm down. The months in which you don't post are an absolute goddamn _delight_ I am

Re: Questions about LISP and Python.

2011-12-06 Thread Alex Mizrahi
i don't like python, and i prefer emacs lisp. The primary reason is that python is not functional, especially with python 3. The python community is full of fanatics with their drivels. In that respect, it's not unlike Common Lisp community and Scheme lisp community. What functional programming

Re: Questions about LISP and Python.

2011-12-06 Thread Rick Johnson
On Dec 5, 11:10 pm, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Xah Lee xah...@gmail.com wrote: i don't like python, and i prefer emacs lisp. The primary reason is that python is not functional, especially with python 3. The python community is full of fanatics

Re: Questions about LISP and Python.

2011-12-06 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 12:13 AM, Rick Johnson rantingrickjohn...@gmail.com wrote: This community is chalk full (from top to bottom!) of arrogant, tech geeking, unix hacks who look down on the outsiders as excrement. I believe it's high time for these folks to eat a big slice of humble pie -- i

Re: Questions about LISP and Python.

2011-12-06 Thread Ian Kelly
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 6:13 AM, Rick Johnson rantingrickjohn...@gmail.com wrote: I would say Mr. Lee does in fact find some usefulness of Python (as do i) HOWEVER he also laments the asinities that plague the language, the documentation, and especially, this community. Anyone who would take

Re: Questions about LISP and Python.

2011-12-05 Thread Xah Lee
On Dec 5, 4:31 am, Tim Bradshaw t...@tfeb.org wrote: On 2011-12-05 11:51:11 +, Xah Lee said: python has more readible syntax, more modern computer language concepts, and more robust libraries. These qualities in turn made it popular. Yet you still post here: why? i don't like

Re: Questions about LISP and Python.

2011-12-05 Thread Chris Angelico
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Xah Lee xah...@gmail.com wrote: i don't like python, and i prefer emacs lisp. The primary reason is that python is not functional, especially with python 3. The python community is full of fanatics with their drivels. In that respect, it's not unlike Common Lisp

Re: Questions about LISP and Python.

2011-12-05 Thread alex23
On Dec 6, 2:36 pm, Xah Lee xah...@gmail.com wrote: The python community is full of fanatics with their drivels. You do know that you could just fuck right off and leave us to it, yes? In general, it's the person who is shrilly imposing their minority opinion on a disinterested audience that

Re: Questions about LISP and Python.

2011-12-05 Thread Matt Joiner
This guy is an even better troll than that 8 guy. His spelling is equally bad. His essays make some good points, but I don't see why he doesn't shut his trap and move on. ಠ_ಠ On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 6:02 PM, alex23 wuwe...@gmail.com wrote: On Dec 6, 2:36 pm, Xah Lee xah...@gmail.com wrote: