Re: Questions on 64 bit versions of Python (Thank-you!)

2008-07-29 Thread Tim Golden
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for everyone's feedback - excellent detail - all my questions have been answered. BTW: Roel was correct that I got confused over the AMD and Intel naming conventions regarding the 64 bit versions of Python for Windows. (I missed that nuance that the Intel build

Re: Questions on 64 bit versions of Python

2008-07-29 Thread Fuzzyman
On Jul 26, 8:02 pm, Rob Williscroft [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martin v. Löwis wrote innews:[EMAIL PROTECTED] comp.lang.python: I just tested, I built a default C# forms app using the AnyCPU option and it ran as a 64 bit app (no *32 in Task Manager), this is on XP64. I have though

Re: Questions on 64 bit versions of Python

2008-07-28 Thread William McBrine
On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 20:31:07 +0200, Martin v. Löwis wrote: Originally, AMD called it x86-64, and later renamed it to AMD64. Intel originally implemented it under the name EM64T (for Extended Memory 64 Technology), and now calls the architecture Intel 64. I hadn't heard Intel 64 before. That's

Re: Questions on 64 bit versions of Python

2008-07-28 Thread Martin v. Löwis
I hadn't heard Intel 64 before. That's a bit nervy, isn't it? Plus it seems to conflict with their own use of IA-64 (Intel Architecture 64) for the Itanium (vs. IA-32 for traditional x86). Indeed. Microsoft Installer has an architecture string for the MSI file; Intel64 there means Itanium

Re: Questions on 64 bit versions of Python (Thank-you!)

2008-07-28 Thread python
Dear List, Thanks for everyone's feedback - excellent detail - all my questions have been answered. BTW: Roel was correct that I got confused over the AMD and Intel naming conventions regarding the 64 bit versions of Python for Windows. (I missed that nuance that the Intel build refered to the

Re: Questions on 64 bit versions of Python

2008-07-27 Thread Roel Schroeven
Tim Roberts schreef: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For Win64-Itanium users: python-2.5.2.ia64.msi For Win64-AMD64 users: python-2.5.2.amd64.msi 1. It looks like the 64 bit versions of Python for Windows are CPU vendor specific, eg. it doesn't look like there's a single, universal executable for

Re: Questions on 64 bit versions of Python

2008-07-27 Thread Martin v. Löwis
- AMD64 (or x86-64 or x64 or EMT64 or Intel64) is a 64-bit instruction set from AMD which is an extension to the i386 instruction set, and runs 32-bit (and 16-bit) i386-code natively. But, and this is important, despite the name the instruction set is also used by Intel (though they call it

Re: Questions on 64 bit versions of Python

2008-07-26 Thread Martin v. Löwis
The end result of that is on a 32-bit machine IronPython runs in a 32-bit process and on a 64-bit machine it runs in a 64-bit process. That's probably not exactly true (although I haven't checked). When you start a .NET .exe program, the operating system needs to decide whether to create a

Re: Questions on 64 bit versions of Python

2008-07-26 Thread Martin v. Löwis
(Any recommendations on a flavor of 64 bit of Linux for the Intel architecture would be appreciated) My recommendation is to use Debian or Ubuntu, as that's my personal preference. As MAL said, any recent distribution that supports AMD64 should be fine (assuming you are not interested in

Re: Questions on 64 bit versions of Python

2008-07-26 Thread Rob Williscroft
Martin v. Löwis wrote in news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] in comp.lang.python: The end result of that is on a 32-bit machine IronPython runs in a 32-bit process and on a 64-bit machine it runs in a 64-bit process. That's probably not exactly true (although I haven't checked). When you start a

Re: Questions on 64 bit versions of Python

2008-07-26 Thread Martin v. Löwis
The Microsoft .NET commercial framework uses the PE architecture of the Whats the Commercial framework ? I've only come accross 3, the standard 32 bit one and 2 64 bit variants. That's the name of the Microsoft .NET product available for Windows. There are other implementations as well,

Re: Questions on 64 bit versions of Python

2008-07-26 Thread Paul Boddie
On 25 Jul, 12:35, M.-A. Lemburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But then Intel Itanium is being phased out anyway Citation needed! ;-) Paul -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Questions on 64 bit versions of Python

2008-07-26 Thread Rob Williscroft
Martin v. Löwis wrote in news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] in comp.lang.python: I just tested, I built a default C# forms app using the AnyCPU option and it ran as a 64 bit app (no *32 in Task Manager), this is on XP64. I have though installed the AMD64 version of the 2.0 framework and AFAICT

Re: Questions on 64 bit versions of Python

2008-07-26 Thread Tim Roberts
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For Win64-Itanium users: python-2.5.2.ia64.msi For Win64-AMD64 users: python-2.5.2.amd64.msi 1. It looks like the 64 bit versions of Python for Windows are CPU vendor specific, eg. it doesn't look like there's a single, universal executable for Windows 64 bit platforms.

Questions on 64 bit versions of Python

2008-07-25 Thread python
Background: I'm going to be processing some raw transaction logs that are 30G in size. As part of this processing I may need to create some very large dictionary structures. I will be running my scripts on a version of Windows 2003 Server Enterprise Edition that supports 16G of RAM. Yes, I could

Re: Questions on 64 bit versions of Python

2008-07-25 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
On 2008-07-25 08:13, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Background: I'm going to be processing some raw transaction logs that are 30G in size. As part of this processing I may need to create some very large dictionary structures. I will be running my scripts on a version of Windows 2003 Server Enterprise

Re: Questions on 64 bit versions of Python

2008-07-25 Thread Fredrik Lundh
M.-A. Lemburg wrote: 4. Is there a stable version of IronPython compiled under a 64 bit version of .NET? Anyone have experience with such a beast? Can't comment on that one. Should that matter? Isn't IronPython pure CLR? /F -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Questions on 64 bit versions of Python

2008-07-25 Thread Mike Driscoll
On Jul 25, 5:52 am, Fredrik Lundh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: M.-A. Lemburg wrote: 4. Is there a stable version of IronPython compiled under a 64 bit version of .NET? Anyone have experience with such a beast? Can't comment on that one. Should that matter?  Isn't IronPython pure CLR? /F

RE: Questions on 64 bit versions of Python

2008-07-25 Thread Dino Viehland
@python.org Subject: Re: Questions on 64 bit versions of Python On Jul 25, 5:52 am, Fredrik Lundh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: M.-A. Lemburg wrote: 4. Is there a stable version of IronPython compiled under a 64 bit version of .NET? Anyone have experience with such a beast? Can't comment on that one