Re: Fwd: Installation hell

2022-12-20 Thread Edmondo Giovannozzi
Personally I use winpython: https://winpython.github.io/ That have all the scientific packages already available. It can run without being installed and uses spyder as an IDE (for small projects it's ok). And, I can import pygame (even though I have not tested if everything works) in python

Re: Fwd: Installation hell

2022-12-20 Thread Thomas Passin
On 12/20/2022 8:11 AM, Eryk Sun wrote: [snipped] I know we're not here to bash Windows, but... drive letters really need to just die already. I don't foresee drive-letter names getting phased out of Windows. And Windows itself is unlikely to get phased out as long as Microsoft continues to

Re: Fwd: Installation hell

2022-12-20 Thread Eryk Sun
On 12/19/22, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Tue, 20 Dec 2022 at 09:12, Thomas Passin wrote: > >> @echo off >> setlocal >> : Find effective drive for this file. >> set ed=%~d0 >> path %ed%\python37\Scripts;%ed%\python37;%PATH% For reference, in case not everyone on the list knows what "%~d0" means,

Re: Fwd: Installation hell

2022-12-19 Thread Chris Angelico
On Tue, 20 Dec 2022 at 10:01, Thomas Passin wrote: > > On 12/19/2022 5:16 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: > > On Tue, 20 Dec 2022 at 09:12, Thomas Passin wrote: > >> FWIW, I once set up a Python installation so that it could run from a > >> USB stick (Windows only). My launcher was a batch file that

Re: Fwd: Installation hell

2022-12-19 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2022-12-19, Chris Angelico wrote: > So much easier to do on a Unix-like system, where you don't need to > concern yourself with "effective drive" and can simply use relative > paths. I know we're not here to bash Windows, but... drive letters > really need to just die already. They needed to

Re: Fwd: Installation hell

2022-12-19 Thread Thomas Passin
On 12/19/2022 5:16 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: On Tue, 20 Dec 2022 at 09:12, Thomas Passin wrote: FWIW, I once set up a Python installation so that it could run from a USB stick (Windows only). My launcher was a batch file that contained the following: @echo off setlocal : Find effective drive

Re: Fwd: Installation hell

2022-12-19 Thread Chris Angelico
On Tue, 20 Dec 2022 at 09:12, Thomas Passin wrote: > FWIW, I once set up a Python installation so that it could run from a > USB stick (Windows only). My launcher was a batch file that contained > the following: > > @echo off > setlocal > : Find effective drive for this file. > set ed=%~d0 >

Re: Fwd: Installation hell

2022-12-19 Thread Thomas Passin
On 12/19/2022 4:54 PM, Thomas Passin wrote: On 12/19/2022 3:34 PM, j wrote: I was unclear. I use the full path to the folder with the unzipped python-embedded. I shouldn't have said 'set'. I have complained on here before about broken installs but got indifference. An installer should

Re: Fwd: Installation hell

2022-12-19 Thread Thomas Passin
On 12/19/2022 3:34 PM, j wrote: I was unclear. I use the full path to the folder with the unzipped python-embedded. I shouldn't have said 'set'. I have complained on here before about broken installs but got indifference. An installer should install stuff correctly (leaving a working

Re: Fwd: Installation hell

2022-12-19 Thread Mats Wichmann
On 12/19/22 13:34, j via Python-list wrote: I was unclear. I use the full path to the folder with the unzipped python-embedded. I shouldn't have said 'set'. I have complained on here before about broken installs but got indifference. An installer should install stuff correctly (leaving a

Re: Fwd: Installation hell

2022-12-19 Thread j via Python-list
I was unclear. I use the full path to the folder with the unzipped python-embedded. I shouldn't have said 'set'. I have complained on here before about broken installs but got indifference. An installer should install stuff correctly (leaving a working environment). If it won't then give

RE: Fwd: Installation hell

2022-12-19 Thread Jim Schwartz
? Ask for a refund on your compsci degree. -Original Message- From: Python-list On Behalf Of DFS Sent: Monday, December 19, 2022 12:58 PM To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: Fwd: Installation hell On 12/18/2022 6:50 AM, Jim Lewis wrote: > I'm an occasional user of Python and h

Re: Fwd: Installation hell

2022-12-19 Thread DFS
On 12/18/2022 6:50 AM, Jim Lewis wrote: I'm an occasional user of Python and have a degree in computer science. Almost every freaking time I use Python, I go through PSH (Python Setup Hell). Sometimes a wrong version is installed. Sometimes it's a path issue. Or exe naming confusion: python,

Re: Fwd: Installation hell

2022-12-19 Thread Thomas Passin
On 12/19/2022 12:28 PM, j via Python-list wrote: I agree. Wasted too much time on last few installs. It got to the point I downloaded python-embedded, unzipped it and set the path manually for my work (needed it as part of a compiler). I don't set those paths. If you have several different

Re: Fwd: Installation hell

2022-12-19 Thread j via Python-list
I agree. Wasted too much time on last few installs. It got to the point I downloaded python-embedded, unzipped it and set the path manually for my work (needed it as part of a compiler). It ain't good enough. And I like python. jan On 18/12/2022 11:50, Jim Lewis wrote: I'm an occasional

Re: Fwd: Installation hell

2022-12-18 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, 19 Dec 2022 at 06:10, Mats Wichmann wrote: > Why? Python is a command-line tool to process a language, Similar to > many other languages - Go, for example. Or a C/C++ compiler. *Or* you > can choose to use someone's wrapping of that process inside an > Integrated Development

Re: Fwd: Installation hell

2022-12-18 Thread Mats Wichmann
On 12/18/22 04:50, Jim Lewis wrote: I'm an occasional user of Python and have a degree in computer science. Almost every freaking time I use Python, I go through PSH (Python Setup Hell). Sometimes a wrong version is installed. Sometimes it's a path issue. Or exe naming confusion: python,