Antoon Pardon wrote:
On 2007-04-26, Steve Holden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
Warning: this is an explicit test to see whether you can sit on your
hands and refrain from replying. It's hard to find a thread where you
don't make the last comment on every branch you get involved in.
On 2007-04-26, Steve Holden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Antoon Pardon wrote:
On 2007-04-25, Steve Holden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
Most people reading a tutorial are aware that they are being given the
knowledge they need to put the subject matter to immediate use, and that
there may
On 2007-04-25, Steve Holden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Antoon Pardon wrote:
On 2007-04-25, Ant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 23, 1:38 pm, Antoon Pardon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The following is part of the explanation on slices in the
tutorial:
The best way to remember how slices work is to
Antoon Pardon wrote:
On 2007-04-25, Steve Holden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
Most people reading a tutorial are aware that they are being given the
knowledge they need to put the subject matter to immediate use, and that
there may well be refinements that are glossed over or covered in
On 2007-04-25, Ant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 23, 1:38 pm, Antoon Pardon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The following is part of the explanation on slices in the
tutorial:
The best way to remember how slices work is
...
+---+---+---+---+---+
| H | e | l | p | A |
Neil Cerutti wrote:
On Apr 23, 1:38 pm, Antoon Pardon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The following is part of the explanation on slices in the
tutorial:
The best way to remember how slices work is
...
+---+---+---+---+---+
| H | e | l | p | A |
+---+---+---+---+---+
0 1 2 3 4
Michael Hoffman wrote:
Neil Cerutti wrote:
On Apr 23, 1:38 pm, Antoon Pardon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The following is part of the explanation on slices in the
tutorial:
The best way to remember how slices work is
...
+---+---+---+---+---+
| H | e | l | p | A |
On 2007-04-24, Michael Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Really only one person has argued that the docs do not need to be
changed. The other two people seemed to think you were asking for help
rather than discussing how to revise the docs. Understandable, since
that's why most people come
On 2007-04-24, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Antoon Pardon wrote:
On 2007-04-24, Michael Bentley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 24, 2007, at 6:35 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
People don't read tutorials in a strictly linear fashion. They can
continue to later subjects and
Hi Antoon,
The best way to remember how slices work is to think of the indices as
...
+---+---+---+---+---+
| H | e | l | p | A |
+---+---+---+---+---+
0 1 2 3 4 5
-5 -4 -3 -2 -1
This is all very well with a simple slice like:
HelpA[2:4]= lp
But that is
Antoon Pardon wrote:
On 2007-04-24, Michael Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Really only one person has argued that the docs do not need to be
changed. The other two people seemed to think you were asking for help
rather than discussing how to revise the docs. Understandable, since
On Apr 23, 1:38 pm, Antoon Pardon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The following is part of the explanation on slices in the
tutorial:
The best way to remember how slices work is to think of the indices as
...
+---+---+---+---+---+
| H | e | l | p | A |
+---+---+---+---+---+
0 1 2 3
On 2007-04-25, Ant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 23, 1:38 pm, Antoon Pardon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The following is part of the explanation on slices in the
tutorial:
The best way to remember how slices work is to think of the indices as
...
+---+---+---+---+---+
| H | e | l | p |
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On 2007-04-24, Michael Bentley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
Antoon Pardon wrote:
On 2007-04-25, Ant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 23, 1:38 pm, Antoon Pardon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The following is part of the explanation on slices in the
tutorial:
The best way to remember how slices work is to think of the indices as
...
+---+---+---+---+---+
Steve Holden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wording to that effect makes it more clear that it is a crutch
that can be usefull now but that it should be discarded later.
Most people reading a tutorial are aware that they are being given the
knowledge they need to put the subject matter to
On 2007-04-25, Hamilton, William [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That's how everything I've ever learned has been taught. Start
with a simple explanation that may not be completely accurate
but is functional, then fill in the details later when there is
a context to put them in. The tutorial could
On Apr 23, 1:38 pm, Antoon Pardon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The following is part of the explanation on slices in the
tutorial:
The best way to remember how slices work is
...
+---+---+---+---+---+
| H | e | l | p | A |
+---+---+---+---+---+
0 1 2 3 4 5
-5 -4 -3 -2
On 2007-04-23, Michael Bentley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 23, 2007, at 7:38 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
The following is part of the explanation on slices in the
tutorial:
The best way to remember how slices work is to think of the indices as
pointing between characters, with the left
On 2007-04-23, Hamilton, William [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 7:38 AM
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Subject: Tutorial creates confusion about slices
The
On Apr 24, 2007, at 1:39 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
On 2007-04-23, Michael Bentley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 23, 2007, at 7:38 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
The following is part of the explanation on slices in the
tutorial:
The best way to remember how slices work is to think of the
On 2007-04-24, Michael Bentley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 24, 2007, at 1:39 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
I suspect that if you give this explanation to someone and explain
that there is also a step parameter, chances are he will answer
correctly if you ask him, what he thinks the following
On Apr 24, 2007, at 4:47 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
On 2007-04-24, Michael Bentley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 24, 2007, at 1:39 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
I suspect that if you give this explanation to someone and explain
that there is also a step parameter, chances are he will answer
On 2007-04-24, Michael Bentley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 24, 2007, at 4:47 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
On 2007-04-24, Michael Bentley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 24, 2007, at 1:39 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
I suspect that if you give this explanation to someone and explain
that there
On Apr 24, 2007, at 6:35 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
On 2007-04-24, Michael Bentley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 24, 2007, at 4:47 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
On 2007-04-24, Michael Bentley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 24, 2007, at 1:39 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
I suspect that if you
On 2007-04-24, Michael Bentley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 24, 2007, at 6:35 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
People don't read tutorials in a strictly linear fashion. They can
continue to later subjects and then come back here to see how things
tie together. So the fact that it is only
Antoon Pardon wrote:
Submit a patch if you want it changed. I'm sure your valuable
insights will greatly improve the quality of the python documentation.
Fat chance, if they reason like you.
I don't think that Michael Bentley is the documents maintainer. Are you
trying to pick a fight
On 2007-04-24, Michael Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Antoon Pardon wrote:
Submit a patch if you want it changed. I'm sure your valuable
insights will greatly improve the quality of the python documentation.
Fat chance, if they reason like you.
I don't think that Michael Bentley is
[Michael Hoffman]
Personally, I do not think of slices in the way this tutorial suggests,
but I think taking it out without replacement would not help. If you
want to add a more accurate replacement, I think that would be better
received than just saying that the section should be removed.
Antoon Pardon wrote:
On 2007-04-24, Michael Bentley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 24, 2007, at 6:35 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
People don't read tutorials in a strictly linear fashion. They can
continue to later subjects and then come back here to see how things
tie together. So the
Antoon Pardon wrote:
The following is part of the explanation on slices in the
tutorial:
The best way to remember how slices work is to think of the indices as
pointing between characters, with the left edge of the first character
numbered 0. Then the right edge of the last character of a
On 2007-04-23, Rob Wolfe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Antoon Pardon wrote:
The following is part of the explanation on slices in the
tutorial:
The best way to remember how slices work is to think of the indices as
pointing between characters, with the left edge of the first character
numbered
On Apr 23, 2007, at 7:38 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
The following is part of the explanation on slices in the
tutorial:
The best way to remember how slices work is to think of the indices as
pointing between characters, with the left edge of the first character
numbered 0. Then the right
-Original Message-
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[mailto:python-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Antoon
Pardon
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 7:38 AM
To: python-list@python.org
Subject: Tutorial creates confusion about slices
The following is part of the explanation on slices in the
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