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On 25-Jan-12 3:23 PM, Rick Johnson wrote:
... In my world ...
Rick, I may be overstepping the mark here but I believe all participants
on this list would probably like it if that's precisely where you stayed.
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On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 09:06:57 -0800, Emile van Sebille wrote:
> On 1/25/2012 9:14 PM Steven D'Aprano said...
>> In the
>> same way that a native English speaker would never make the mistake of
>> using "organ" to refer to an unnamed mechanical device, so she would
>> never use "gadget" to refer to
On 1/25/2012 9:14 PM Steven D'Aprano said...
In the
same way that a native English speaker would never make the mistake of
using "organ" to refer to an unnamed mechanical device, so she would
never use "gadget" to refer to an unnamed body part.
My wife introduced me to the term "picnic gadget"
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> The Oxford Dictionary lists the first definition of "pretty" as
>
> Orig. cunning, crafty. Later (of a person) clever, skillful;
> (of a thing) cleverly made or done, ingenious, artful.
>
> and states that it is derived from Old English praettig, "capricious,
> over
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 10:25 PM, rusi wrote:
> The contents of this thread ostensibly argues about the word 'pretty'
> Actually it seems to be arguing about the word 'troll'
>
> Every other post calls the OP a troll and then outdoes his post in
> length.
I just grepped, and it's hardly "every ot
On 26 January 2012 05:25, rusi wrote:
> The contents of this thread ostensibly argues about the word 'pretty'
> Actually it seems to be arguing about the word 'troll'
>
> Every other post calls the OP a troll and then outdoes his post in
> length.
> This does not match any meaning I can make of t
The contents of this thread ostensibly argues about the word 'pretty'
Actually it seems to be arguing about the word 'troll'
Every other post calls the OP a troll and then outdoes his post in
length.
This does not match any meaning I can make of trolling.
Can someone please explain what 'troll' m
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> In the
> same way that a native English speaker would never make the mistake of
> using "organ" to refer to an unnamed mechanical device, so she would
> never use "gadget" to refer to an unnamed body part.
I dunno... every Sunday I press k
On Wed, 25 Jan 2012 15:23:10 -0800, Rick Johnson wrote:
> Let's see what intelligent words we can find here...
>
> """
> doohickey
> a name for something one doesn't know the name of, 1914, Amer.Eng.,
> arbitrary formation.
>
> thing·a·ma·jig
> a gadget or other thing for which the speaker does
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 2:01 PM, Rick Johnson
wrote:
> I believe we'll just have to "agree to disagree" on the issue of
> pretty. However, let's take a step back and view this issue from a
> global perspective. Ask yourself:
>
> Q: "Am i choosing my words carefully, or just blindly imitating other
On Jan 25, 8:02 pm, Ian Kelly wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 6:00 PM, Rick Johnson
> wrote:
> > On Jan 25, 6:20 pm, Ian Kelly wrote:
> >> On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 4:23 PM, Rick Johnson
> > My writing skills are not in question here, however your reading and
> > comprehension skills should be.
On Jan 25, 6:28 pm, Jugurtha Hadjar wrote:
> I am sincerely sorry if my English offends some purists, but I
> am making efforts to write correctly, and making mistakes to learn. To
> learn this and many other things...
Hello Jugurtha,
You English does not offend me. i want you to realize that i
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 6:00 PM, Rick Johnson
wrote:
> On Jan 25, 6:20 pm, Ian Kelly wrote:
>> On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 4:23 PM, Rick Johnson
>
>> > """I was frightened that the finals might be difficult this year,
>> > however to my surprise, they were not."""
>>
>> > In this case the writer does
On Jan 25, 6:20 pm, Ian Kelly wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 4:23 PM, Rick Johnson
> > """I was frightened that the finals might be difficult this year,
> > however to my surprise, they were not."""
>
> > In this case the writer does not *precisely* quantify the difficulty
> > of his final exam
On 1/25/12 12:14 , Rick Johnson wrote:
You don't even need
"pretty" to get your point across.
If that's your argument, then we can drop the verb "to be", most
articles, most verb conjugations, and nearly all adjectives and adverbs.
For that matter, the vast majority of posts here can be drop
On Wed, 25 Jan 2012 12:14:43 -0800, Rick Johnson wrote:
> PS: Just like i suspected; not one single use of "pretty" was wielded to
> describe the pleasurable attributes of a person, place, or thing. Mind
> boggling!
Have you even bothered to look up "pretty" in the dictionary?
Dictionary.com has
On Wed, 25 Jan 2012 15:38:12 -0800
Chris Kaynor wrote:
[...]
> >
>
> Would you prefer the Oxford or Merriam-Webster dictionaries. They are
> a bit more established than dictionary.com in terms of standardizing
> the languages.
>
> Definition 4 of the Merriam-Webster dictionary for "pretty" as a
I just came home. It is 01h19 AM here in Algiers (Algeria, North
Africa.. Not New Orleans) and I find this funny thread. Thank you, by
the way.
I started communicating in English about two years ago, mostly on human
sciences topics and was forced to articulate ideas and concepts in this
langu
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 4:23 PM, Rick Johnson
wrote:
> Only to you. In my world, the "pleasurable aspects of a tangible
> object" can have no effect on my opinion of the difficulty of a task.
Then your world is not the real world, that being the one that is
actually described by every dictionary
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Rick Johnson
wrote:
> On Jan 25, 3:45 pm, Ian Kelly wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Rick Johnson
> > In all seriousness, the idea that "very" and "somewhat" are somehow
> > better in this context than "pretty" just because "pretty" has another
> > mean
On Jan 25, 3:45 pm, Ian Kelly wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Rick Johnson
>
> wrote:
> > Wow, why i am not surprised! Let's pick one usage at random and try to
> > understand it. "I think XYZ is pretty easy." You don't even need
> > "pretty" to get your point across. You could simply s
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Rick Johnson
wrote:
> Wow, why i am not surprised! Let's pick one usage at random and try to
> understand it. "I think XYZ is pretty easy." You don't even need
> "pretty" to get your point across. You could simply say "I think XYZ
> is easy".
But "easy" and "prett
On 2012-01-25, Rick Johnson wrote:
> Wow, why i am not surprised! Let's pick one usage at random and
> try to understand it. "I think XYZ is pretty easy." You don't
> even need "pretty" to get your point across. You could simply
> say "I think XYZ is easy". Furthermore, if you insist on
> QUANTIFY
On Jan 25, 11:26 am, K Richard Pixley wrote:
> I disagree on all points.
>
> "Pretty" means "mostly". The difference in meaning is significant.
> "I'm sure" is definitive. "I'm pretty sure" leaves room for variation.
But "pretty" does not translate well as a quantifier, even though
that's exact
On 25/01/2012 05:55, Michael Torrie wrote:
On 01/24/2012 10:49 PM, Michael Torrie wrote:
On 01/24/2012 05:43 PM, Rick Johnson wrote:
Actually my custom script had a small flaw which kept it from
capturing ALL the atrocities. Here is a run with the bugfixes:
Wow. I had to trim 80% of your
On 1/23/12 21:57 , Rick Johnson wrote:
Here is a grep from the month of September 2011 showing the rampantly
egregious misuse of the following words and phrases:
* pretty
* hard
* right
* used to
* supposed to
"Pretty" is the most ludicrous of them all! As you will see, "pretty"
is u
On 01/24/2012 10:49 PM, Michael Torrie wrote:
> On 01/24/2012 05:43 PM, Rick Johnson wrote:
>> Actually my custom script had a small flaw which kept it from
>> capturing ALL the atrocities. Here is a run with the bugfixes:
>
> Wow. I had to trim 80% of your e-mail just to get rid of old quoted
> p
On 01/24/2012 05:43 PM, Rick Johnson wrote:
> Actually my custom script had a small flaw which kept it from
> capturing ALL the atrocities. Here is a run with the bugfixes:
Wow. I had to trim 80% of your e-mail just to get rid of old quoted
posts. For an expert, Rick, I'm really surprised you don
On Jan 23, 11:57 pm, Rick Johnson
wrote:
> Here is a grep from the month of September 2011 showing the rampantly
> egregious misuse of the following words and phrases:
Actually my custom script had a small flaw which kept it from
capturing ALL the atrocities. Here is a run with the bugfixes:
p
On 24/01/2012 21:20, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 8:13 AM, Blockheads Oi Oi
wrote:
On 24/01/2012 20:03, Joshua Landau wrote:
A simple version number doesn't imply huge breakages. Try "English2 v1.0"!
In fact, why would a perfect language need a version number?
It would be
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 8:13 AM, Blockheads Oi Oi
wrote:
> On 24/01/2012 20:03, Joshua Landau wrote:
>> A simple version number doesn't imply huge breakages. Try "English2 v1.0"!
>>
>> In fact, why would a perfect language need a version number?
>>
> It would be difficult to maintain Python withou
On 24/01/2012 20:03, Joshua Landau wrote:
On 24 January 2012 17:25, Blockheads Oi Oi mailto:breamore...@yahoo.co.uk>> wrote:
On 24/01/2012 15:46, Andrea Crotti wrote:
I suggest to create English 2.0, and convince the whole world to
speak
your own
way better i
On 24 January 2012 17:25, Blockheads Oi Oi wrote:
> On 24/01/2012 15:46, Andrea Crotti wrote:
>
>> I suggest to create English 2.0, and convince the whole world to speak
>> your own
>> way better implementation of English.
>>
>
> Too late for that when comparing modern English with that of e.g. D
On 24/01/2012 15:46, Andrea Crotti wrote:
I suggest to create English 2.0, and convince the whole world to speak
your own
way better implementation of English.
Too late for that when comparing modern English with that of e.g.
Dickens, Shakespeare, Chaucer and Bede, hence at a minimum I reckon
On 24/01/2012 16:41, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 3:26 AM, Martin P. Hellwig
wrote:
Having said that, I do like to bring to your attention that her Majesty,
never ratified the 'Declaration of Independence'. :-)
Oh, stop it. It's high time we got rid of these silly distincti
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 3:26 AM, Martin P. Hellwig
wrote:
> Having said that, I do like to bring to your attention that her Majesty,
> never ratified the 'Declaration of Independence'. :-)
Oh, stop it. It's high time we got rid of these silly distinctions of
English and American. Rick's right -
On 24/01/2012 14:51, J wrote:
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 09:05, Martin P. Hellwig
wrote:
On 24/01/2012 05:57, Rick Johnson wrote:
I would wish that pedantic citizens of the British colony in America stopped
calling whatever misinterpreted waffle they produce, English.
I, sir, as a citizen of t
On Tue, 24 Jan 2012 09:21:37 +0100, Jérôme wrote:
> Mon, 23 Jan 2012 21:57:16 -0800 (PST) Rick Johnson a écrit:
>> Of course, "used to" and "supposed to" will require people to rethink
>> there lazy and slothful ways.
>
> I don't even see the problem with those...
>
> As someone already said,
I suggest to create English 2.0, and convince the whole world to speak
your own
way better implementation of English.
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On 24/01/2012 7:06, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 21:57:16 -0800, Rick Johnson wrote:
>
>> Here is a grep from the month of September 2011 showing the rampantly
>> egregious misuse of the following words and phrases:
>>
>> * pretty
>> * hard
>> * right
>> * used to
>> * supposed to
Wh. I did not expect this when I signed up to the Python mailing list.
> From: dreadpiratej...@gmail.com
> Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 09:51:57 -0500
> Subject: Re: The devolution of English language and slothful c.l.p behaviors
> exposed!
> To: martin.hell...@gmail.com
&g
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 09:05, Martin P. Hellwig
wrote:
> On 24/01/2012 05:57, Rick Johnson wrote:
>
> I would wish that pedantic citizens of the British colony in America stopped
> calling whatever misinterpreted waffle they produce, English.
I, sir, as a citizen of that FORMER British colony h
"In America, they haven't spoken it for years!" -- Professor Henry Higgins, "My
Fair Lady"
-Original Message-
On 24/01/2012 05:57, Rick Johnson wrote:
I would wish that pedantic citizens of the British colony in America stopped
calling whatever misinterpreted waffle they produce, Englis
On 24/01/2012 05:57, Rick Johnson wrote:
I would wish that pedantic citizens of the British colony in America
stopped calling whatever misinterpreted waffle they produce, English.
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On 2012-01-24, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Rick Johnson
> wrote:
>>
>>
>> [RR's usual schtick]
> All in favour, say "Aye" in Latin. All against, say "Plonk".
I plonked RR ages ago. Now I only get to see his post when somebody
replies to him.
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Mon, 23 Jan 2012 21:57:16 -0800 (PST)
Rick Johnson a écrit:
> "Pretty" is the most ludicrous of them all! As you will see, "pretty"
> is used superfluously, over and over again! In fact, you could safely omit
> "pretty" without sacrificing any meaning of most all the sentences that
> include the w
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Ian Kelly wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 10:57 PM, Rick Johnson
> wrote:
>>
>> Here is a grep
>
> A grep? What is a grep?
According to the damage type table on Aardwolf MUD, a grep is a type
of slash - at least, it's resisted by the same armor value that
resis
On Jan 24, 4:05 pm, Evan Driscoll wrote:
> On 1/23/2012 23:57, Rick Johnson wrote:> Of
> > course, "used to" and "supposed to" will require people to rethink
> > there lazy and slothful ways.
>
> I'll go repent in the corner, over their.
You forget, Rick's errors are genuine mistakes that only a
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 10:57 PM, Rick Johnson
wrote:
>
> Here is a grep
A grep? What is a grep? That word is not in any of my dictionaries.
Are you perhaps carelessly invoking the neologism of referring to an
execution of the "grep" UNIX program as "a grep"?
> from the month of September 2011
You're right, but it's pretty hard for some people to do what they're
supposed to when it isn't what they're used to.
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On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Rick Johnson
wrote:
>
> Here is a grep from the month of September 2011...
Is it? Interesting. I met that month yesterday (she was shopping in
Oakleigh, don't ask) and she knew nothing about it.
Oh, did you mean "Here is the result of using the grep(1) utility on
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 1:06 AM, Steven D'Aprano <
steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info> wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 21:57:16 -0800, Rick Johnson wrote:
>
> > Here is a grep from the month of September 2011 showing the rampantly
> > egregious misuse of the following words and phrases:
> >
> > * p
On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 21:57:16 -0800, Rick Johnson wrote:
> Here is a grep from the month of September 2011 showing the rampantly
> egregious misuse of the following words and phrases:
>
> * pretty
> * hard
> * right
> * used to
> * supposed to
I'm pretty sure that this news group is supposed to be
On 1/23/2012 23:57, Rick Johnson wrote:
> Of
> course, "used to" and "supposed to" will require people to rethink
> there lazy and slothful ways.
I'll go repent in the corner, over their.
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Here is a grep from the month of September 2011 showing the rampantly
egregious misuse of the following words and phrases:
* pretty
* hard
* right
* used to
* supposed to
"Pretty" is the most ludicrous of them all! As you will see, "pretty"
is used superfluously, over and over again! In fac
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