Re: Working group for Python CPAN-equivalence?

2010-03-04 Thread Gregory Ewing
Peter Billam wrote: A very important thing about CPAN modules is the consistent basic install method: perl Makefile.PL ; make ; make install Well, we more or less have that with Python, too: python setup.py install It may not always work smoothly, but it's the one obvious thing to try

Re: Working group for Python CPAN-equivalence?

2010-03-04 Thread Olof Bjarnason
2010/3/4 Gregory Ewing greg.ew...@canterbury.ac.nz: Peter Billam wrote: A very important thing about CPAN modules is the consistent basic install method:   perl Makefile.PL ; make ; make install Well, we more or less have that with Python, too:  python setup.py install It may not always

Re: Working group for Python CPAN-equivalence?

2010-03-04 Thread John Gabriele
On Mar 3, 9:11 pm, John Bokma j...@castleamber.com wrote: Philip Semanchuk phi...@semanchuk.com writes: In other words, if I was a Perl user under Ubuntu would I use the pkg manager to add a Perl module, or CPAN, or would both work? Both would work, but I would make very sure to use a

Re: Working group for Python CPAN-equivalence?

2010-03-04 Thread John Gabriele
On Mar 3, 5:30 pm, Ben Finney ben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au wrote: Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu writes: On 3/3/2010 12:05 PM, John Nagle wrote: CPAN enforces standard organization on packages. PyPi does not. This is, I think, something we don't need as much in Python; there is a

Re: Working group for Python CPAN-equivalence?

2010-03-04 Thread John Bokma
Ben Finney ben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au writes: Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu writes: On 3/3/2010 12:05 PM, John Nagle wrote: CPAN is a repository. PyPi is an collection of links. As Ben said, PyPI currently is also a respository and not just links to other repositories. [..] CPAN

Working group for Python CPAN-equivalence?

2010-03-03 Thread Olof Bjarnason
Hi everybody! The Where is CPAN for Python? question keeps popping up, with answers ranging from There is no CPAN for Python and We already have CPAN for Python (confusing). I'm wondering - is there any work being done identifying .. (1) what is so good with CPAN? (2) how can it be brought to

Re: Working group for Python CPAN-equivalence?

2010-03-03 Thread Stefan Behnel
Olof Bjarnason, 03.03.2010 13:45: The Where is CPAN for Python? question keeps popping up, with answers ranging from There is no CPAN for Python and We already have CPAN for Python (confusing). It confuses me that you call this confusing. I'm wondering - is there any work being done

Re: Working group for Python CPAN-equivalence?

2010-03-03 Thread Olof Bjarnason
2010/3/3 Stefan Behnel stefan...@behnel.de: Olof Bjarnason, 03.03.2010 13:45: The Where is CPAN for Python? question keeps popping up, with answers ranging from There is no CPAN for Python and We already have CPAN for Python (confusing). It confuses me that you call this confusing. How

Re: Working group for Python CPAN-equivalence?

2010-03-03 Thread Stefan Behnel
Stefan Behnel, 03.03.2010 13:52: Olof Bjarnason, 03.03.2010 13:45: The Where is CPAN for Python? question keeps popping up, with answers ranging from There is no CPAN for Python and We already have CPAN for Python (confusing). It confuses me that you call this confusing. I'm wondering - is

Re: Working group for Python CPAN-equivalence?

2010-03-03 Thread Ben Finney
Olof Bjarnason olof.bjarna...@gmail.com writes: Hi everybody! The Where is CPAN for Python? question keeps popping up, with answers ranging from There is no CPAN for Python and We already have CPAN for Python (confusing). Caused in no small measure by the fact that Perl people mean at least

Re: Working group for Python CPAN-equivalence?

2010-03-03 Thread John Gabriele
On Mar 3, 7:45 am, Olof Bjarnason olof.bjarna...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everybody! The Where is CPAN for Python? question keeps popping up, with answers ranging from There is no CPAN for Python and We already have CPAN for Python (confusing). I'm wondering - is there any work being done

Re: Working group for Python CPAN-equivalence?

2010-03-03 Thread John Nagle
Ben Finney wrote: Olof Bjarnason olof.bjarna...@gmail.com writes: Hi everybody! The Where is CPAN for Python? question keeps popping up, with answers ranging from There is no CPAN for Python and We already have CPAN for Python (confusing). Caused in no small measure by the fact that Perl

Re: Working group for Python CPAN-equivalence?

2010-03-03 Thread Terry Reedy
On 3/3/2010 12:05 PM, John Nagle wrote: We have an equivalent in PyPI, though it's incomplete since many *registered* packages are not actually hosted *at* PyPI. CPAN is a repository. PyPi is an collection of links. As Ben said, PyPI currently is also a respository and not just links to

Re: Working group for Python CPAN-equivalence?

2010-03-03 Thread Jonathan Gardner
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote: People who are familiar with and like CPAN are free to help improve PyPI. Those of us not familiar with it may not know what we are missing, or have little idea about what works with CPAN. CPAN also covers up some

Re: Working group for Python CPAN-equivalence?

2010-03-03 Thread Ben Finney
Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu writes: On 3/3/2010 12:05 PM, John Nagle wrote: CPAN is a repository. PyPi is an collection of links. As Ben said, PyPI currently is also a respository and not just links to other repositories. It's a repository with holes. Just because a package is registered

Re: Working group for Python CPAN-equivalence?

2010-03-03 Thread Peter Billam
On 2010-03-03, John Nagle na...@animats.com wrote: Ben Finney wrote: Olof Bjarnason olof.bjarna...@gmail.com writes: The Where is CPAN for Python? question keeps popping up, with answers ranging from There is no CPAN for Python and We already have CPAN for Python (confusing). Caused in no

Re: Working group for Python CPAN-equivalence?

2010-03-03 Thread Philip Semanchuk
On Mar 3, 2010, at 5:17 PM, Jonathan Gardner wrote: On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote: People who are familiar with and like CPAN are free to help improve PyPI. Those of us not familiar with it may not know what we are missing, or have little idea about

Re: Working group for Python CPAN-equivalence?

2010-03-03 Thread John Bokma
Philip Semanchuk phi...@semanchuk.com writes: Do Fedora Ubuntu's package managers offer modules that appear in CPAN? Yes, I've installed so far all Perl modules I need that way (sudo apt-get install ...) In other words, if I was a Perl user under Ubuntu would I use the pkg manager to add a