Re: first book about python

2006-08-02 Thread wesley chun
(double feature) From: Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tues, Aug 1 2006 2:10 am Hi Wesley, which edition of Python will your latest Core Python cover? Will it cover 2.5? ray: thanks for asking. one of my goals for the book is to really cover the *core* parts of the language, meaning

Re: first book about python

2006-08-01 Thread wesley chun
gene tani wrote: IOANNIS MANOLOUDIS wrote: I want to learn python. I plan to buy a book. I always find printed material more convenient than reading on-line tutorials. I don't know PERL or any other scripting language. I only know some BASH programming. I am looking for a book which

Re: first book about python

2006-08-01 Thread Ray
wesley chun wrote: if you only know shell scripting, you should still be able to pick up much of the material in Core Python, esp. if you have done looping and/or conditionals in the shell language. it is a large book and is pretty comprehensive though, so if you're looking for a lighter

Re: first book about python

2006-08-01 Thread John Salerno
wesley chun wrote: if you want a large case study (tons of examples, i.e., everything *plus* the kitchen sink), look for Lutz' massive Programming Python. which is also coming out in a new edition soon -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: first book about python

2006-07-12 Thread Ron Rogers Jr.
On Sun, 09 Jul 2006 03:41:52 +0300 IOANNIS MANOLOUDIS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to learn python. I am looking for a book which will help me get started and should contain the foundations. I am not looking for the Python bible. Any recommendations? Ioannis Hmm, no one has mentioned

Re: first book about python

2006-07-12 Thread Steve
I recommend The Quick Python Book by Harms and McDonald. Its strength is its brevity and *readability* -- you can actually just sit down and read it and enjoy it. It doesn't cover the newest features of Python or the most advanced, but that is not necessary in a beginner's book. Once you're up

Re: first book about python

2006-07-12 Thread gregarican
Once you are ready to take the plunge another good document is the Python tutorial written by Guido Von Rossum himself (http://docs.python.org/tut/). It's not a full fledged 300 page manifesto but it's covers the basic of the language. IOANNIS MANOLOUDIS wrote: I guess it's better to wait for

Re: first book about python

2006-07-10 Thread Steve Holden
tac-tics wrote: Philippe Martin wrote: I don't know, if I were the genious that made up Python I would not believe in any bible (small b) Take it to alt.religion please. Take it to alt.narrow-mondedness please. regards Steve -- Steve Holden +44 150 684 7255 +1 800 494 3119

Re: first book about python

2006-07-10 Thread gregarican
Learning Python, Perl, or Ruby would help you create admin scripts that would save you lots of manual work. For me automated log file alerting, SQL query parsing, SQL table updates, Internet file uploading/downloading, etc. has been a huge plus. Perl is likely the most widely used in terms of

Re: first book about python

2006-07-10 Thread John Salerno
IOANNIS MANOLOUDIS wrote: I want to learn python. I plan to buy a book. I always find printed material more convenient than reading on-line tutorials. I don't know PERL or any other scripting language. I only know some BASH programming. I am looking for a book which will help me get started

Re: first book about python

2006-07-09 Thread Vittorio
I read almost every published book about Python and I found Magnus' Beginning Python the best book to start with. As Alex said it is particularly appreciated by those who like learning by examples and by try and error: it is actually the opposite to what Alex believed as Beginning Python is meant

Re: first book about python

2006-07-09 Thread Aahz
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], IOANNIS MANOLOUDIS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to learn python. I plan to buy a book. I always find printed material more convenient than reading on-line tutorials. I don't know PERL or any other scripting language. I only know some BASH programming. I am

Re: first book about python

2006-07-09 Thread IOANNIS MANOLOUDIS
I thank everybody for your replies. I think I'll get Hertland's book since it's newer than O'reillys. I don't want to become a programmer. Neither Python is part of my studies. I've finished with my studies. I want to become a Unix/Linux admin and knowledge of either Python or Perl is an asset. Do

Re: first book about python

2006-07-09 Thread Alex Martelli
Aahz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], IOANNIS MANOLOUDIS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to learn python. I plan to buy a book. I always find printed material more convenient than reading on-line tutorials. I don't know PERL or any other scripting language. I only

Re: first book about python

2006-07-09 Thread Alex Martelli
IOANNIS MANOLOUDIS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thank everybody for your replies. I think I'll get Hertland's book since it's newer than O'reillys. I don't want to become a programmer. Neither Python is part of my studies. I've finished with my studies. I want to become a Unix/Linux admin and

Re: first book about python

2006-07-09 Thread Paul Rubin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Martelli) writes: Yes, Perl IS harder to learn, BUT -- if you've already decided to learn both languages, starting with the harder one need not be a bad idea (the Romans' legions, back when they were the best soldiers in the world, Learning Perl is actually a very

Re: first book about python

2006-07-09 Thread IOANNIS MANOLOUDIS
I guess it's better to wait for the for dummies book. I should focus instead in taking the LPIC-2 exams in September. Ioannis -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: first book about python

2006-07-09 Thread gene tani
IOANNIS MANOLOUDIS wrote: I want to learn python. I plan to buy a book. I always find printed material more convenient than reading on-line tutorials. I don't know PERL or any other scripting language. I only know some BASH programming. I am looking for a book which will help me get started

first book about python

2006-07-08 Thread IOANNIS MANOLOUDIS
I want to learn python. I plan to buy a book. I always find printed material more convenient than reading on-line tutorials. I don't know PERL or any other scripting language. I only know some BASH programming. I am looking for a book which will help me get started and should contain the

Re: first book about python

2006-07-08 Thread Philippe Martin
I don't know, if I were the genious that made up Python I would not believe in any bible (small b) IOANNIS MANOLOUDIS wrote: I want to learn python. I plan to buy a book. I always find printed material more convenient than reading on-line tutorials. I don't know PERL or any other

Re: first book about python

2006-07-08 Thread gregarican
Try Learning Python which is part of the O'Reilly series of books they publish on computer programming. It's a good start. Most public library systems have copies you can check out, and most larger bookstores have it. Otherwise there's always Amazon.Com. Welcome to Python and enjoy! IOANNIS

Re: first book about python

2006-07-08 Thread tac-tics
Philippe Martin wrote: I don't know, if I were the genious that made up Python I would not believe in any bible (small b) Take it to alt.religion please. I want to learn python. I plan to buy a book. I always find printed material more convenient than reading on-line tutorials. I had the

Re: first book about python

2006-07-08 Thread Cameron Laird
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], IOANNIS MANOLOUDIS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to learn python. I plan to buy a book. I always find printed material more convenient than reading on-line tutorials. I don't know PERL or any other scripting language. I only know some BASH programming. I am looking

Re: first book about python

2006-07-08 Thread BartlebyScrivener
I always find printed material more convenient than reading on-line tutorials. If you are sure you want a book and not online tutorials, then it's important that you have many code examples which include both the statements and the results. You may like Chris Fehily's Python Visual Quickstart

Re: first book about python

2006-07-08 Thread crystalattice
On Sat, 08 Jul 2006 14:41:52 -1000, IOANNIS MANOLOUDIS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to learn python. I plan to buy a book. I always find printed material more convenient than reading on-line tutorials. I don't know PERL or any other scripting language. I only know some BASH programming.

Re: first book about python

2006-07-08 Thread Paul Rubin
IOANNIS MANOLOUDIS [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I plan to buy a book. I always find printed material more convenient than reading on-line tutorials. Why not print out the on-line tutorial and read the hardcopy? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: first book about python

2006-07-08 Thread Jake Emerson
There have been lots of recommendations for the O'Reilly book, which is a good one. However, I would recommend Beginning Python by Magnus Lie Hetland. All I knew before starting Python was Mathematica, and this book was very helpful. It may seem to start out slow, but I've found that I'm going

Re: first book about python

2006-07-08 Thread Alex Martelli
Jake Emerson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There have been lots of recommendations for the O'Reilly book, which is a good one. However, I would recommend Beginning Python by Magnus Lie Hetland. All I knew before starting Python was Mathematica, and this book was very helpful. It may seem to start