how do real python programmers work?

2007-02-15 Thread Tyrrell, Wendy
_ Wendy Tyrrell WRL Adviser Camden Education Business Partnership Children, Schools and Families London Borough of Camden The Medburn Centre 136 Chalton Street NW1 1RX Streetmap: http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=529491Y=183342A=YZ=1 Phone: 020 7974 8249

Re: how do real python programmers work?

2007-02-15 Thread Tim Golden
Tyrrell, Wendy wrote: (Well, nothing) Was that all your question, Wendy, or did you accidentally hit the Send button too soon? You're welcome to ask here or on the tutor list http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor if you want to find out about Python. Or just look at the website:

Re: how do real python programmers work?

2007-02-15 Thread Hendrik van Rooyen
Tim Golden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tyrrell, Wendy wrote: (Well, nothing) 8-- Your organisation seems to deal with partnerships between business and education; are you looking to promote the use of programming in schools? Or is there something else you're after?

Re: how do real python programmers work?

2006-01-18 Thread kpd
I have a python file type setup in Vim. When I hit F9, it saves the file and executes it in a python shell. My _vimrc: filetype on autocmd FileType python call FileType_Python() Python coding function! TryPython() :w! :!python % endfunction function! FileType_Python() map F9

Re: how do real python programmers work?

2006-01-18 Thread Stormcoder
I might be a little late to the party but my comments may still be valuable. I write Python code in emacs. Emacs has an great python-mode. The code I write can range from a GUI apps to server side code and emacs works just as well in all cases. Some of the features that make emacs a good Python

Re: how do real python programmers work?

2006-01-18 Thread Fernando Perez
bblais wrote: Hello, Let me start by saying that I am coming from a background using Matlab (or Octave), and C++. I am going to outline the basic nuts-and-bolts of how I work in these languages, and ask for some help to find out how the same thing is done in Python. I am not sure what

Re: how do real python programmers work?

2006-01-15 Thread fynali
Love it. -- fynali -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: how do real python programmers work?

2006-01-15 Thread Alex Martelli
Scott David Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: bblais wrote: How do experienced python programmers usually do it? Is there a usually about it, or is it up to personal taste? Are there any convenient ways of doing these things? There are a lot of us who use a test-first process: Yep, I'm

Re: how do real python programmers work?

2006-01-15 Thread Linsong
Travis E. Oliphant wrote: bblais wrote: In Python, there seems to be a couple ways of doing things. I could write it in one window, and from a Unix shell call python myscript.py and be like C++, but then I lose the interactiveness which makes prototyping easier.

Re: how do real python programmers work?

2006-01-14 Thread Mike Meyer
Roy Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: we need a term for development environment built out of Unix tools We already have one. The term is emacs. So people using a development environment built around vim's pyhon mode are using emacs? mike -- Mike

Re: how do real python programmers work?

2006-01-14 Thread Mike Meyer
Tom Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, 12 Jan 2006, Mike Meyer wrote: well, we need a term for development environment built out of Unix tools Disintegrated development environment? Differentiated development environment? How about just a development environment? I'd like the

Re: how do real python programmers work?

2006-01-13 Thread Alan J. Salmoni
Hi Brian, I'm sure I don't qualify as an experienced Python programmer, but I write lots of code usually for statistical analysis (via numarray) or for GUI work. The way I work is to use an editor and Idle for interactive testing of small routines. My choice of editor is SciTE. I'll have

Re: how do real python programmers work?

2006-01-13 Thread bruno at modulix
Barbier de Reuille Pierre wrote: On 12 Jan 2006 12:20:50 -0800 bblais [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, (snip) Well, I think it will depend on your project ... If you're developing GUI application, you will have trouble using the python shell. At least you will need a special,

Re: how do real python programmers work?

2006-01-13 Thread Barbier de Reuille Pierre
On 12 Jan 2006 12:20:50 -0800 bblais [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Let me start by saying that I am coming from a background using Matlab (or Octave), and C++. I am going to outline the basic nuts-and-bolts of how I work in these languages, and ask for some help to find out how the same

Re: how do real python programmers work?

2006-01-13 Thread Ben Finney
Scott David Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: bblais wrote: How do experienced python programmers usually do it? Is there a usually about it, or is it up to personal taste? Are there any convenient ways of doing these things? There are a lot of us who use a test-first process: Write a

Re: how do real python programmers work?

2006-01-13 Thread Mike Meyer
bblais [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In Python, there seems to be a couple ways of doing things. I could write it in one window, and from a Unix shell call python myscript.py and be like C++, but then I lose the interactiveness which makes prototyping easier. If I

Re: how do real python programmers work?

2006-01-13 Thread Scott David Daniels
bblais wrote: How do experienced python programmers usually do it? Is there a usually about it, or is it up to personal taste? Are there any convenient ways of doing these things? There are a lot of us who use a test-first process: Write a unit test, watch it fail, fix the code til the

Re: how do real python programmers work?

2006-01-13 Thread Travis E. Oliphant
bblais wrote: In Python, there seems to be a couple ways of doing things. I could write it in one window, and from a Unix shell call python myscript.py and be like C++, but then I lose the interactiveness which makes prototyping easier. If I use the python shell,

Re: how do real python programmers work?

2006-01-13 Thread Tom Anderson
On Thu, 12 Jan 2006, bblais wrote: In Matlab, I do much the same thing, except there is no compile phase. I have the editor on one window, the Matlab interactive shell in the other. I often make a bunch of small scripts for exploration of a problem, before writing any larger apps. I go

Re: how do real python programmers work?

2006-01-13 Thread Juho Schultz
bblais wrote: In Python, there seems to be a couple ways of doing things. I could write it in one window, and from a Unix shell call python myscript.py and be like C++, but then I lose the interactiveness which makes prototyping easier. If I use the python

Re: how do real python programmers work?

2006-01-13 Thread Michele Simionato
As many others, I use emacs for programming and ipython for interactive experiments. Michele Simionato -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: how do real python programmers work?

2006-01-13 Thread bruno at modulix
bblais wrote: Hello, (snip) In C++, I open up an editor in one window, a Unix shell in another. (snip) In Matlab, I do much the same thing, except there is no compile phase. (snip) In Python, there seems to be a couple ways of doing things. I could write it in one window, and from a

Re: [OT] how do real python programmers work?

2006-01-13 Thread bruno at modulix
Mike Meyer wrote: (snip) Maybe some of the people who IDEs (instead of - well, we need a term for development environment built out of Unix tools) Extegrated Development environment ?-) -- bruno desthuilliers python -c print '@'.join(['.'.join([w[::-1] for w in p.split('.')]) for p in

Re: how do real python programmers work?

2006-01-13 Thread Fuzzyman
bblais wrote: [snip..] In Python, there seems to be a couple ways of doing things. I could write it in one window, and from a Unix shell call python myscript.py and be like C++, but then I lose the interactiveness which makes prototyping easier. If I use the

Re: how do real python programmers work?

2006-01-13 Thread Carl Friedrich Bolz
Scott David Daniels wrote: bblais wrote: How do experienced python programmers usually do it? Is there a usually about it, or is it up to personal taste? Are there any convenient ways of doing these things? There are a lot of us who use a test-first process: Write a unit test, watch

Re: how do real python programmers work?

2006-01-13 Thread Roy Smith
Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: we need a term for development environment built out of Unix tools We already have one. The term is emacs. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: how do real python programmers work?

2006-01-13 Thread Tom Anderson
On Thu, 12 Jan 2006, Mike Meyer wrote: well, we need a term for development environment built out of Unix tools Disintegrated development environment? Differentiated development environment? How about just a development environment? tom -- NOW ALL ASS-KICKING UNTIL THE END --

Re: how do real python programmers work?

2006-01-13 Thread Tom Anderson
On Fri, 13 Jan 2006, Roy Smith wrote: Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: we need a term for development environment built out of Unix tools We already have one. The term is emacs. Emacs isn't built out of unix tools - it's a standalone program. Ah, of course - to an true believer,

Re: how do real python programmers work?

2006-01-13 Thread Dan Sommers
On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 17:09:13 +, Tom Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah, of course - to an true believer, emacs *is* the unix toolset. :) To the true believer, unix runs under emacs. Regards, Dan -- Dan Sommers http://www.tombstonezero.net/dan/ --

Re: how do real python programmers work?

2006-01-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
bblais wrote: In Python, there seems to be a couple ways of doing things. I could write it in one window, and from a Unix shell call python myscript.py and be like C++, but then I lose the interactiveness which makes prototyping easier. If I use the python shell,

how do real python programmers work?

2006-01-12 Thread bblais
Hello, Let me start by saying that I am coming from a background using Matlab (or Octave), and C++. I am going to outline the basic nuts-and-bolts of how I work in these languages, and ask for some help to find out how the same thing is done in Python. I am not sure what the standard is. In

Re: how do real python programmers work?

2006-01-12 Thread Dave Hansen
On 12 Jan 2006 12:20:50 -0800 in comp.lang.python, bblais [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Let me start by saying that I am coming from a background using Matlab (or Octave), and C++. I am going to outline the basic nuts-and-bolts I generally write C code for embedded controllers. of how I

Re: how do real python programmers work?

2006-01-12 Thread sandravandale
I'm not an experienced python programmer, but I come from a C++ background as well. I like to code in Komodo ($29 for the personal edition) and that lets me have multiple python files opened in tabs, and multiple interpreters opened below, since the interpreter is command based, it doesn't have to

Re: how do real python programmers work?

2006-01-12 Thread Martin v. Löwis
bblais wrote: In Python, there seems to be a couple ways of doing things. I could write it in one window, and from a Unix shell call python myscript.py and be like C++, but then I lose the interactiveness which makes prototyping easier. If I use the python shell,