Re: python IDE and function definition
Chris Friesen cbf...@mail.usask.ca writes: I'm running into issues where my current IDE (I'm playing with Komodo) can't seem to locate the definition, I suspect because it's too ambiguous. The feature you're looking for – to start from the statement where a function is called, then jump to the statement where that function is defined – is implemented via “tags” across many languages and tools. One very popular implementation is “Exuberant Ctags”. You can choose from the tools URL:http://ctags.sourceforge.net/tools.html that support that system, and continue using the same system when you switch to a different language or a different tool. So rather than give up, I'd like to have my IDE suggest all possible answers. Good luck to you in learning a development environment that is *not* tied to the particular programming language you're writing. -- \ “… a Microsoft Certified System Engineer is to information | `\ technology as a McDonalds Certified Food Specialist is to the | _o__) culinary arts.” —Michael Bacarella | Ben Finney -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: python IDE and function definition
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Neil Hodgson nhodg...@iinet.net.au wrote: Chris Friesen: where I could highlight the stop and ask it to go to the definition. (Where the definition is in a different file.) I'm running into issues where my current IDE (I'm playing with Komodo) can't seem to locate the definition, I suspect because it's too ambiguous. Some IDEs allow you to help them understand the context by adding type information. Here's some documentation for Wing IDE that uses an isinstance assertion: http://www.wingware.com/doc/**edit/helping-wing-analyze-codehttp://www.wingware.com/doc/edit/helping-wing-analyze-code Just to note, PyDev can also use the assert isinstance as well as docstrings (http://pydev.org/manual_adv_type_hints.html) for type hinting. Cheers, Fabio -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: python IDE and function definition
On Sep 23, 2013, at 8:06 AM, Chris Friesen cbf...@mail.usask.ca wrote: Hi all, I'm looking for a python IDE (for Linux) that can look at code like this: class ConductorManager(manager.Manager): def compute_recover(self, context, instance): self.compute_api.stop(context, instance, do_cast=False) where I could highlight the stop and ask it to go to the definition. (Where the definition is in a different file.) I'm running into issues where my current IDE (I'm playing with Komodo) can't seem to locate the definition, I suspect because it's too ambiguous. The fact that python is dynamically typed seems to mean that there could potentially be multiple answers, any class with a stop() method with the right signature could presumably be plausible, right? So rather than give up, I'd like to have my IDE suggest all possible answers. Hi Chris, Not sure if this reproduces what you want or not. I use PyCharm (free for free stuff, and very affordable/worthwhile otherwise) on Linux (as well as OSX/Windows). I made a new project, added two files: provider.py: class Provider(object): def stop(self): pass usage.py: class Conglomerate(object): def doSomething(self): self.provision.stop() I then highlight 'stop', hit Ctrl-B (menu option go todeclarations) and it brings up all the stop() definitions it could find, the Provider one on the top, click it and I jump there. Ctrl-Alt-B (menu option for gotoimplementation(s)) does nothing… UNLESS… I add this method to Conglomerate: def __init__(self): super.__init__() self.provision = Provider() Then go to implementations takes me right there to the other file. HTH -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
python IDE and function definition
Hi all, I'm looking for a python IDE (for Linux) that can look at code like this: class ConductorManager(manager.Manager): def compute_recover(self, context, instance): self.compute_api.stop(context, instance, do_cast=False) where I could highlight the stop and ask it to go to the definition. (Where the definition is in a different file.) I'm running into issues where my current IDE (I'm playing with Komodo) can't seem to locate the definition, I suspect because it's too ambiguous. The fact that python is dynamically typed seems to mean that there could potentially be multiple answers, any class with a stop() method with the right signature could presumably be plausible, right? So rather than give up, I'd like to have my IDE suggest all possible answers. Chris -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: python IDE and function definition
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Chris Friesen cbf...@mail.usask.cawrote: Hi all, I'm looking for a python IDE (for Linux) that can look at code like this: class ConductorManager(manager.**Manager): def compute_recover(self, context, instance): self.compute_api.stop(context, instance, do_cast=False) where I could highlight the stop and ask it to go to the definition. (Where the definition is in a different file.) I'm running into issues where my current IDE (I'm playing with Komodo) can't seem to locate the definition, I suspect because it's too ambiguous. The fact that python is dynamically typed seems to mean that there could potentially be multiple answers, any class with a stop() method with the right signature could presumably be plausible, right? So rather than give up, I'd like to have my IDE suggest all possible answers. PyDev (http://pydev.org/) is able to do that (i.e.: if the find definition doesn't find it directly, it shows a list with possible matches for you to choose the most appropriate one: http://pydev.org/manual_adv_gotodef.html) -- additionally, you can also search for methods/classes/attributes directly: http://pydev.org/manual_adv_open_decl_quick.html Cheers, Fabio Chris -- https://mail.python.org/**mailman/listinfo/python-listhttps://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: python IDE and function definition
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Chris Friesen cbf...@mail.usask.ca wrote: On 09/23/2013 09:32 AM, Fabio Zadrozny wrote: On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Chris Friesen cbf...@mail.usask.ca mailto:cbf...@mail.usask.ca wrote: Hi all, I'm looking for a python IDE (for Linux) that can look at code like this: class ConductorManager(manager.__**Manager): def compute_recover(self, context, instance): self.compute_api.stop(context, instance, do_cast=False) where I could highlight the stop and ask it to go to the definition. (Where the definition is in a different file.) I'm running into issues where my current IDE (I'm playing with Komodo) can't seem to locate the definition, I suspect because it's too ambiguous. The fact that python is dynamically typed seems to mean that there could potentially be multiple answers, any class with a stop() method with the right signature could presumably be plausible, right? So rather than give up, I'd like to have my IDE suggest all possible answers. PyDev (http://pydev.org/) is able to do that (i.e.: if the find definition doesn't find it directly, it shows a list with possible matches for you to choose the most appropriate one: http://pydev.org/manual_adv_**gotodef.htmlhttp://pydev.org/manual_adv_gotodef.html) -- additionally, you can also search for methods/classes/attributes directly: http://pydev.org/manual_adv_**open_decl_quick.htmlhttp://pydev.org/manual_adv_open_decl_quick.html I've installed eclipse/pydev and tried it out. The problem that I'm seeing is that it will show me *all* stop() methods that it knows about, regardless of function signature. So in the above case, my function call looks like: self.compute_api.stop(context, instance, do_cast=False) but pydev will offer matches that look like: def stop(self): This runs into problems with commonly-named functions. I tried searching for the start() method in: self.compute_api.start(**context, instance) and it complained that there were too many possible results. Basically, I'm looking for something smart enough to throw out methods with the same name but that don't match the signature. Chris Seems like a nice request... it'd be nice if you can report it as a feature request at the pydev tracker (at https://sw-brainwy.rhcloud.com/ -- note that you have to sign up to create an issue). Cheers, Fabio -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: python IDE and function definition
On 09/23/2013 09:32 AM, Fabio Zadrozny wrote: On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Chris Friesen cbf...@mail.usask.ca mailto:cbf...@mail.usask.ca wrote: Hi all, I'm looking for a python IDE (for Linux) that can look at code like this: class ConductorManager(manager.__Manager): def compute_recover(self, context, instance): self.compute_api.stop(context, instance, do_cast=False) where I could highlight the stop and ask it to go to the definition. (Where the definition is in a different file.) I'm running into issues where my current IDE (I'm playing with Komodo) can't seem to locate the definition, I suspect because it's too ambiguous. The fact that python is dynamically typed seems to mean that there could potentially be multiple answers, any class with a stop() method with the right signature could presumably be plausible, right? So rather than give up, I'd like to have my IDE suggest all possible answers. PyDev (http://pydev.org/) is able to do that (i.e.: if the find definition doesn't find it directly, it shows a list with possible matches for you to choose the most appropriate one: http://pydev.org/manual_adv_gotodef.html) -- additionally, you can also search for methods/classes/attributes directly: http://pydev.org/manual_adv_open_decl_quick.html I've installed eclipse/pydev and tried it out. The problem that I'm seeing is that it will show me *all* stop() methods that it knows about, regardless of function signature. So in the above case, my function call looks like: self.compute_api.stop(context, instance, do_cast=False) but pydev will offer matches that look like: def stop(self): This runs into problems with commonly-named functions. I tried searching for the start() method in: self.compute_api.start(context, instance) and it complained that there were too many possible results. Basically, I'm looking for something smart enough to throw out methods with the same name but that don't match the signature. Chris -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: python IDE and function definition
Chris Friesen: where I could highlight the stop and ask it to go to the definition. (Where the definition is in a different file.) I'm running into issues where my current IDE (I'm playing with Komodo) can't seem to locate the definition, I suspect because it's too ambiguous. Some IDEs allow you to help them understand the context by adding type information. Here's some documentation for Wing IDE that uses an isinstance assertion: http://www.wingware.com/doc/edit/helping-wing-analyze-code Neil -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
