python texts?

2006-06-18 Thread nate
Everyone that took their time to reply, thank you. I have a better idea 
of where to go after Learning Python. I still do not have a good idea of 
where this book will put me in the grand scheme of things, but oh well. 
I suppose that is something I will find out soon enough.
Once again, thank you for your responses
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python texts?

2006-06-17 Thread nate
Hello everyone,

Can anyone recommend python text progression from me. Assuming I have no 
knowledge of python which books should I progress through? I prefer 
published books that I can actually hold with my hands. But if there are 
some awesome tutorials on-line I guess I am game. At this moment I am 
reading Learning Python 2nd edition by O'Reilly. I am enjoying it at the 
moment. I intend to be done with it in a week. But not sure where it 
will put me in the grand scheme of programming with python.

So perhaps a more direct question would be, what do I read after this 
book? Should I read something before this book? Should I ditch this book?

Thanks,
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Re: python texts?

2006-06-17 Thread Fredrik Lundh
nate wrote:

 I am enjoying it at the moment. I intend to be done with it in a 
 week. But not sure where it will put me in the grand scheme of 
 programming with python.

 So perhaps a more direct question would be, what do I read after this
 book? Should I read something before this book? Should I ditch this 
 book?

If you get through Learning Python, you'll know the *entire* language.

All you need then is practice, and the best way to practice is to read
and write code.  Make sure you do the exercises in Learning Python on 
your computer, and even more importantly: *read* existing code; go grab 
some program or library that you find somewhat interesting, and study 
the it's source code.  Even if you don't understand everything, you'll 
pick up invaluable idioms and patterns that you can use in your own code.

(And don't miss http://www.pythonchallenge.com)

You should also skim the Library Reference so you know what's in there,
and where to find it when you need it; if you prefer hardcopy, get
Beazley's Essential Python or Martelli's Nutshell book.  Skimming the
Python FAQ is also a good idea.

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Re: python texts?

2006-06-17 Thread Dave Cook
On 2006-06-17, nate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 reading Learning Python 2nd edition by O'Reilly. I am enjoying it at the 

I'd get the Python Cookbook, next.

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Re: python texts?

2006-06-17 Thread Scott David Daniels
Dave Cook wrote:
 On 2006-06-17, nate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 reading Learning Python 2nd edition by O'Reilly. I am enjoying it at the 
 I'd get the Python Cookbook, next.

There's a jump.  The Cookbook is quite advanced.  I'd write code next.

Then, I'd read through the docs for all the provided modules (fast, the
idea is to know where to go back for detail, not to understand each
module in depth), and write more code.  If you want paper for going
through the modules, next I'd read either Beazley's Python Essential
Reference or Alex Martelli's Python in a Nutshell.

Choosing between P.E.R. and Nutshell is really quite individual.  They
are both great, thorough jobs that leave you with a wonderful reference
work after you've read them.  I'd say P.E.R. is terser, going for
density and brevity, while the Nutshell is a bit more elaborative
on what it covers.  The choice between Martelli and Beazley is, I
suspect, one of your learning style.  Find somewhere to look at each
(any edition) and read twenty pages from the middle.  One of them will
seem much better than the other, and it has everything to do with what
you prefer.

The Cookbook comes later.  As does getting all the way through the
challenge, but for puzzle lovers, it can be great fun.

--Scott David Daniels
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Re: python texts?

2006-06-17 Thread BartlebyScrivener
 I'd say P.E.R. is terser, going for
 density and brevity, while the Nutshell is a bit more elaborative
 on what it covers.  The choice between Martelli and Beazley is, I
 suspect, one of your learning style.

Yes, sometimes Beazley is too terse if you're reading about something
for the first time. But he's the best when you need to freshen your
knowledge on a module or function you used three months ago.

When in doubt, get both Beazley  Martelli. And follow with the
Cookbook.

Note the Martelli Nutshell is coming out in a new edition in early
July. You can preorder.

http://tinyurl.com/pkczm
 
rd

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