Re: pytz question: GMT vs. UTC

2014-02-02 Thread Pete Forman
Grant Edwards invalid@invalid.invalid writes: On 2014-01-30, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: The temperature unit is the Kelvin, not the Degree Kelvin. One writes: 0 K, 275.15 K And remember to say Kelvins not Kelvin when speaking about temperatures other than 1 K. And

Re: pytz question: GMT vs. UTC

2014-02-02 Thread wxjmfauth
Le dimanche 2 février 2014 13:45:54 UTC+1, Pete Forman a écrit : Grant Edwards invalid@invalid.invalid writes: On 2014-01-30, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: The temperature unit is the Kelvin, not the Degree Kelvin. One writes: 0 K, 275.15 K And

Re: pytz question: GMT vs. UTC

2014-02-02 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2014-02-02, Pete Forman petef4+use...@gmail.com wrote: Grant Edwards invalid@invalid.invalid writes: On 2014-01-30, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: The temperature unit is the Kelvin, not the Degree Kelvin. One writes: 0 K, 275.15 K And remember to say Kelvins not Kelvin

Re: pytz question: GMT vs. UTC

2014-01-31 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 31/01/2014 04:08, Dan Sommers wrote: On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 15:21:35 +, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2014-01-30, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: The temperature unit is the Kelvin, not the Degree Kelvin. One writes: 0 K, 275.15 K And remember to say Kelvins not Kelvin when

Re: pytz question: GMT vs. UTC

2014-01-31 Thread wxjmfauth
Le vendredi 31 janvier 2014 08:02:22 UTC+1, Rustom Mody a écrit : On Thursday, January 30, 2014 2:15:20 PM UTC+5:30, jmf wrote: Le jeudi 30 janvier 2014 04:27:54 UTC+1, Chris Angelico a écrit : On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 1:40 PM, MRAB wrote: How cruel... I suspect the smack

Re: pytz question: GMT vs. UTC

2014-01-31 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 31/01/2014 10:17, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: Is the double line spacing that you still use despite being asked not to ASCII or unicode? -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence --

Re: pytz question: GMT vs. UTC

2014-01-31 Thread Roy Smith
In article 52eb287c$0$29972$c3e8da3$54964...@news.astraweb.com, Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote: On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 04:08:46 +, Dan Sommers wrote about temperatures: And -1 K. You josh, but there are negative temperatures in Kelvin. They're hotter than

Re: pytz question: GMT vs. UTC

2014-01-31 Thread Roy Smith
In article mailman.6209.1391180106.18130.python-l...@python.org, Mark Lawrence breamore...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: On 31/01/2014 10:17, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: Is the double line spacing that you still use despite being asked not to ASCII or unicode? It's not actually double line spacing.

Re: pytz question: GMT vs. UTC

2014-01-31 Thread Robert Kern
On 2014-01-31 15:04, Roy Smith wrote: In article mailman.6209.1391180106.18130.python-l...@python.org, Mark Lawrence breamore...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: On 31/01/2014 10:17, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: Is the double line spacing that you still use despite being asked not to ASCII or unicode?

Re: pytz question: GMT vs. UTC

2014-01-31 Thread Dan Sommers
On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 17:42:30 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote: On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 5:28 PM, Dan Sommers d...@tombstonezero.net wrote: ObPython: My program retrieves temperatures (in Kelvins) from an external device (the details of which I am not at liberty to discuss) and stores them in the

Re: pytz question: GMT vs. UTC

2014-01-30 Thread wxjmfauth
Le jeudi 30 janvier 2014 04:27:54 UTC+1, Chris Angelico a écrit : On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 1:40 PM, MRAB pyt...@mrabarnett.plus.com wrote: How cruel... I suspect the smack at 0degC is much more painful than one at room temperature G It's the 21st century; you should be

Re: pytz question: GMT vs. UTC

2014-01-30 Thread Christian Heimes
On 30.01.2014 04:27, Chris Angelico wrote: On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 1:40 PM, MRAB pyt...@mrabarnett.plus.com wrote: How cruel... I suspect the smack at 0degC is much more painful than one at room temperature G It's the 21st century; you should be making use of Unicode: 0°C. I

Re: pytz question: GMT vs. UTC

2014-01-30 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 8:49 PM, Christian Heimes christ...@python.org wrote: On 30.01.2014 04:27, Chris Angelico wrote: On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 1:40 PM, MRAB pyt...@mrabarnett.plus.com wrote: How cruel... I suspect the smack at 0degC is much more painful than one at room temperature

Re: pytz question: GMT vs. UTC

2014-01-30 Thread wxjmfauth
Le jeudi 30 janvier 2014 10:49:11 UTC+1, Christian Heimes a écrit : On 30.01.2014 04:27, Chris Angelico wrote: On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 1:40 PM, MRAB pyt...@mrabarnett.plus.com wrote: How cruel... I suspect the smack at 0degC is much more painful than one at room

Re: pytz question: GMT vs. UTC

2014-01-30 Thread MRAB
On 2014-01-30 08:45, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: Le jeudi 30 janvier 2014 04:27:54 UTC+1, Chris Angelico a écrit : On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 1:40 PM, MRAB pyt...@mrabarnett.plus.com wrote: How cruel... I suspect the smack at 0degC is much more painful than one at room temperature G

Re: pytz question: GMT vs. UTC

2014-01-30 Thread Larry Martell
On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 10:23 AM, Grant Edwards invalid@invalid.invalid wrote: On 2014-01-30, Christian Heimes christ...@python.org wrote: On 30.01.2014 04:27, Chris Angelico wrote: On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 1:40 PM, MRAB pyt...@mrabarnett.plus.com wrote: How cruel... I suspect the smack

Re: pytz question: GMT vs. UTC

2014-01-30 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2014-01-30, Christian Heimes christ...@python.org wrote: On 30.01.2014 04:27, Chris Angelico wrote: On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 1:40 PM, MRAB pyt...@mrabarnett.plus.com wrote: How cruel... I suspect the smack at 0degC is much more painful than one at room temperature G It's the 21st

Re: pytz question: GMT vs. UTC

2014-01-30 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2014-01-30, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: The temperature unit is the Kelvin, not the Degree Kelvin. One writes: 0 K, 275.15 K And remember to say Kelvins not Kelvin when speaking about temperatures other than 1 K. -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwards

Re: pytz question: GMT vs. UTC

2014-01-30 Thread Dan Sommers
On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 15:21:35 +, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2014-01-30, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: The temperature unit is the Kelvin, not the Degree Kelvin. One writes: 0 K, 275.15 K And remember to say Kelvins not Kelvin when speaking about temperatures other than 1

Re: pytz question: GMT vs. UTC

2014-01-30 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 04:08:46 +, Dan Sommers wrote about temperatures: And -1 K. You josh, but there are negative temperatures in Kelvin. They're hotter than infinitely hot. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_temperature -- Steven --

Re: pytz question: GMT vs. UTC

2014-01-30 Thread Dan Sommers
On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 04:37:16 +, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 04:08:46 +, Dan Sommers wrote about temperatures: And -1 K. You josh, but there are negative temperatures in Kelvin. They're hotter than infinitely hot. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_temperature

Re: pytz question: GMT vs. UTC

2014-01-30 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 5:28 PM, Dan Sommers d...@tombstonezero.net wrote: ObPython: My program retrieves temperatures (in Kelvins) from an external device (the details of which I am not at liberty to discuss) and stores them in the cloud (because that's where all the cool kids store data

Re: pytz question: GMT vs. UTC

2014-01-30 Thread Rustom Mody
On Thursday, January 30, 2014 2:15:20 PM UTC+5:30, jmf wrote: Le jeudi 30 janvier 2014 04:27:54 UTC+1, Chris Angelico a écrit : On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 1:40 PM, MRAB wrote: How cruel... I suspect the smack at 0degC is much more painful than one It's the 21st century; you

pytz question: GMT vs. UTC

2014-01-29 Thread Skip Montanaro
According ato the pytz doc (http://pytz.sourceforge.net/): ‘UTC’ is Universal Time, also known as Greenwich Mean Time or GMT in the United Kingdom. If they are equal, why don't timezone objects created from those two strings compare equal? pytz.timezone(UTC) == pytz.timezone(GMT) False (I'm

Re: pytz question: GMT vs. UTC

2014-01-29 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 4:29 AM, Skip Montanaro s...@pobox.com wrote: According ato the pytz doc (http://pytz.sourceforge.net/): ‘UTC’ is Universal Time, also known as Greenwich Mean Time or GMT in the United Kingdom. If they are equal, why don't timezone objects created from those two

Re: pytz question: GMT vs. UTC

2014-01-29 Thread Ben Finney
Skip Montanaro s...@pobox.com writes: According ato the pytz doc (http://pytz.sourceforge.net/): ‘UTC’ is Universal Time, also known as Greenwich Mean Time or GMT in the United Kingdom. This is inaccurate, and I'd like to see it corrected in the documentation. UTC is neither UT nor GMT. GMT

Re: pytz question: GMT vs. UTC

2014-01-29 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2014-01-29, Skip Montanaro s...@pobox.com wrote: According ato the pytz doc (http://pytz.sourceforge.net/): UTC is Universal Time, also known as Greenwich Mean Time or GMT in the United Kingdom. If they are equal, The question is _are_ they equal? There is an exact defintion for what

Re: pytz question: GMT vs. UTC

2014-01-29 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Dennis Lee Bieber wlfr...@ix.netcom.com wrote: On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 19:02:53 + (UTC), Grant Edwards invalid@invalid.invalid declaimed the following: to be smacked across the knuckes with a 12-inch platinum-iridium ruler Under what

Re: pytz question: GMT vs. UTC

2014-01-29 Thread MRAB
On 2014-01-30 01:50, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 11:28:16 +1100, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com declaimed the following: On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Dennis Lee Bieber wlfr...@ix.netcom.com wrote: On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 19:02:53 + (UTC), Grant Edwards

Re: pytz question: GMT vs. UTC

2014-01-29 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 1:40 PM, MRAB pyt...@mrabarnett.plus.com wrote: How cruel... I suspect the smack at 0degC is much more painful than one at room temperature G It's the 21st century; you should be making use of Unicode: 0°C. I started to read that and thought you were going to

Re: pytz question: GMT vs. UTC

2014-01-29 Thread Gregory Ewing
Grant Edwards wrote: smacked across the knuckes with a 12-inch platinum-iridium ruler Imperial or Scottish inches? -- Greg -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list