Re: Lines on a tkinter.Canvas

2014-06-12 Thread Peter Otten
Pedro Izecksohn wrote: > The code available from: > http://izecksohn.com/pedro/python/canvas/testing.py > draws 2 horizontal lines on a Canvas. Why the 2 lines differ on thickness > and length? > > The Canvas' method create_line turns on at least 2 pixels. But I want to > turn on many single pixe

Re: About python while statement and pop()

2014-06-12 Thread hito koto
2014年6月12日木曜日 14時43分42秒 UTC+9 Steven D'Aprano: > On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 21:56:06 -0700, hito koto wrote: > > > > > I want to use while statement, > > > > > > for example: > > def foo(x): > > > ... y = [] > > > ... while x !=[]: > > > ... y.append(x.pop()) > > > ...

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Re: asyncio - how to stop loop?

2014-06-12 Thread Frank Millman
"Ian Kelly" wrote in message news:CALwzidnv07Wba9WJ=nuc0_v4mvudyaxwh6bgjvw0o1hf3oo...@mail.gmail.com... > On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 1:19 AM, Frank Millman wrote: >> First attempt - same as before >> >> loop = asyncio.get_event_loop() >> threading.Thread(target=loop.run_forever).start() >>

Re: OT: This Swift thing

2014-06-12 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 12:16:08 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 12:08 PM, Steven D'Aprano > wrote: >> I'm just pointing out that our computational technology uses over a >> million times more energy than the theoretical minimum, and therefore >> there is a lot of room for effi

Re: OT: This Swift thing

2014-06-12 Thread alister
On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 09:06:50 +, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 12:16:08 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote: > >> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 12:08 PM, Steven D'Aprano >> wrote: >>> I'm just pointing out that our computational technology uses over a >>> million times more energy than the t

Re: About python while statement and pop()

2014-06-12 Thread hito koto
2014年6月12日木曜日 14時43分42秒 UTC+9 Steven D'Aprano: > On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 21:56:06 -0700, hito koto wrote: > > > > > I want to use while statement, > > > > > > for example: > > def foo(x): > > > ... y = [] > > > ... while x !=[]: > > > ... y.append(x.pop()) > > > ...

Re: OT: This Swift thing

2014-06-12 Thread Gregory Ewing
Steven D'Aprano wrote: It is my contention that, had Intel and AMD spent the last few decades optimizing for power consumption rather than speed, we probably could run a server off, well, perhaps not a watch battery, Current draw of CMOS circuitry is pretty much zero when nothing is changing,

Re: Lines on a tkinter.Canvas

2014-06-12 Thread Gregory Ewing
Pedro Izecksohn wrote: The Canvas' method create_line turns on at least 2 pixels. But I want to turn on many single pixels on a Canvas. You could try using a 1x1 rectangle instead. However, be aware that either of these will use quite a lot of memory per pixel. If you are drawing a very large

Re: OT: This Swift thing

2014-06-12 Thread Rustom Mody
I am bewildered by this argument... [Heck Ive recently learnt that using ellipses is an easy way to produce literature... So there...] On Thursday, June 12, 2014 2:36:50 PM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > It is my contention that, had Intel and AMD spent the last few decades > optimizing fo

Python MSI Repo

2014-06-12 Thread Alex Rodrigues
Is there a public repository for the python windows installer? I'd like to play around with it. - Alex -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python MSI Repo

2014-06-12 Thread Ned Batchelder
On 6/12/14 9:47 AM, Alex Rodrigues wrote: Is there a public repository for the python windows installer? I'd like to play around with it. - Alex I'm no expert on what the source for a windows installer looks like, but there seem to be things that smell like that in the PC and PCbuild direc

Re: About python while statement and pop()

2014-06-12 Thread Mark H Harris
On 6/11/14 10:12 PM, hito koto wrote: i want to change this is code: def foo(x): y = [] while x !=[]: y.append(x.pop()) return y Consider this generator (all kinds of permutations on the idea): >>> L1 [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7] >>> def poplist(L): while True:

Re: About python while statement and pop()

2014-06-12 Thread Mark H Harris
On 6/11/14 10:12 PM, hito koto wrote: def foo(x): y = [] while x !=[]: y.append(x.pop()) return y Consider this generator variation: >>> def poplist(L): done = False while done==False: yield L[::-1][:1:] L = L[::-1][1::]

Re: About python while statement and pop()

2014-06-12 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 2:49 AM, Mark H Harris wrote: > Consider this generator variation: > def poplist(L): > done = False > while done==False: > > yield L[::-1][:1:] > L = L[::-1][1::][::-1] > if len(L)==0: done=True Why not j

Re: Python MSI Repo

2014-06-12 Thread Zachary Ware
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 8:47 AM, Alex Rodrigues wrote: > Is there a public repository for the python windows installer? > > I'd like to play around with it. The installer is built using msi.py, found in the tools directory of the main cpython repository: http://hg.python.org/cpython/file/default/

Re: OT: This Swift thing

2014-06-12 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 05:54:47 -0700, Rustom Mody wrote: > On Thursday, June 12, 2014 2:36:50 PM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote: [...] >> > The laws of physics tend to put >> > boundaries that are ridiculously far from where we actually work - I >> > think most roads have speed limits that run a fa

Re: About python while statement and pop()

2014-06-12 Thread Marko Rauhamaa
> while done==False: Correction: while not done: Better Python and not bad English, either. Marko -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: About python while statement and pop()

2014-06-12 Thread Mark H Harris
On 6/12/14 11:55 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: while not done: Better Python and not bad English, either. ... and taking Marko's good advice, what I think you really wanted: >>> def poplist(L): done = False while not done: yield L[::-1][:1:] L

Re: About python while statement and pop()

2014-06-12 Thread Mark H Harris
On 6/12/14 11:57 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 2:49 AM, Mark H Harris wrote: Consider this generator variation: def poplist(L): done = False while done==False: yield L[::-1][:1:] L = L[::-1][1::][::-1]

Re: OT: This Swift thing

2014-06-12 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 3:04 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > Chris made the argument that *the laws of physics* put limits on what we > can attain, which is fair enough, but then made the poor example of speed > limits on roads falling short of the speed of light. Yes, speed limits on > roads fall co

Re: About python while statement and pop()

2014-06-12 Thread Mark H Harris
On 6/12/14 11:57 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: def poplist(L): done = False while done==False: yield L[::-1][:1:] L = L[::-1][1::][::-1] if len(L)==0: done=True Why not just "while L"? OK, here it is with Chris' excellent adv

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Re: Lines on a tkinter.Canvas

2014-06-12 Thread Terry Reedy
On 6/12/2014 7:38 AM, Gregory Ewing wrote: Pedro Izecksohn wrote: The Canvas' method create_line turns on at least 2 pixels. But I want to turn on many single pixels on a Canvas. You could try using a 1x1 rectangle instead. However, be aware that either of these will use quite a lot of memory

Asymmetry in globals __getitem__/__setitem__

2014-06-12 Thread Robert Lehmann
Hi all, I have noticed there is a slight asymmetry in the way the interpreter (v3.3.5, reproduced also in v3.5.x) loads and stores globals. While loading globals from a custom mapping triggers __getitem__ just fine, writing seems to silently ignore __setitem__. class Namespace(dict): def __g

Re: Asymmetry in globals __getitem__/__setitem__

2014-06-12 Thread Ian Kelly
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Robert Lehmann wrote: > Hi all, > > I have noticed there is a slight asymmetry in the way the interpreter > (v3.3.5, reproduced also in v3.5.x) loads and stores globals. While loading > globals from a custom mapping triggers __getitem__ just fine, writing seems >

Re: Asymmetry in globals __getitem__/__setitem__

2014-06-12 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 4:18 AM, Robert Lehmann wrote: > PS. I found a 3.3.x commit (e3ab8aa) which fixed the LOAD_GLOBAL opcode to > support other types than dict, but STORE_GLOBAL seems to use bare > PyDict_SetItem instead of dispatching to PyObject_SetItem. > This looks like something for a t

Re: Suds 4.1 Beta Assertion Failure

2014-06-12 Thread 1stpoint
It turns out I was passing the parameters incorrectly to the generateReportSQL method. This is what I had: result=reportservice.generateReportSQL(rptRef, paramRpt, sessionid) This is what works: result=XMLservice.generateReportSQL({'reportPath':rptRef},sessionid) I have another issue. When I

Re: OT: This Swift thing

2014-06-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 12 June 2014 13:18:00 Chris Angelico did opine And Gene did reply: > On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 3:04 AM, Steven D'Aprano > > > I'm saying that, whatever the practical engineering limits turn out > > to be, we're unlikely to be close to them, and therefore there are > > very likely to be m

Re: Lines on a tkinter.Canvas

2014-06-12 Thread Pedro Izecksohn
  As Peter Otten did not see the same result that I saw, I prepared an image that shows the result on my notebook: http://izecksohn.com/pedro/python/canvas/tk_window.xcf   For those that might not know: xcf is the Gimp's file format. - Original Message - > From: Peter Otten > To: python-

Re: idle glitch while building python 3.4 from sources

2014-06-12 Thread kfsone
I just upgraded to Python 3.4.1 AMD64 for Windows 7 using the binaries, and this appears to have affected the Windows binary distribution. osmith@WOTSIT /c/Python34/Lib/idlelib $ python idle.py ** IDLE can't import Tkinter. Your Python may not be configured for Tk. ** -- https://ma

Re: Lines on a tkinter.Canvas

2014-06-12 Thread Pedro Izecksohn
- Original Message - > From: Gregory Ewing > To: python-list@python.org > Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 8:38 AM > Subject: Re: Lines on a tkinter.Canvas > > Pedro Izecksohn wrote: >> The Canvas' method create_line turns on at least 2 pixels. But I want > to turn >> on many single pixel

Re: Lines on a tkinter.Canvas

2014-06-12 Thread Pedro Izecksohn
- Original Message - > From: Gregory Ewing > To: python-list@python.org > Cc: > Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 8:38 AM > Subject: Re: Lines on a tkinter.Canvas > > Pedro Izecksohn wrote: >> The Canvas' method create_line turns on at least 2 pixels. But I want > to turn >> on many singl

http://bugs.python.org/issue19495 timeit enhancement

2014-06-12 Thread Mark Lawrence
The request is for a class within timeit that allows you to test code inside a with block. It strikes me as being useful but there's only one response on the issue, albeit a positive one. If others here think this would be a useful addition I'll see if I can take this forward, unless there ar

Re: idle glitch while building python 3.4 from sources

2014-06-12 Thread Terry Reedy
On 6/12/2014 4:35 PM, kfs...@gmail.com wrote: I just upgraded to Python 3.4.1 AMD64 for Windows 7 using the binaries, Upgraded from what to what with what? Which binaries? Details matter. and this appears to have affected the Windows binary distribution. osmith@WOTSIT /c/Python34/Lib/

Re: Lines on a tkinter.Canvas

2014-06-12 Thread Gregory Ewing
Pedro Izecksohn wrote: Thank you Greg. Your second approach works and the script became: That's not really what I meant; doing it that way, you're still incurring the overhead of a tk canvas object for each point that you draw. However, if there are only 250 points or so, it might not matter.

Re: Asymmetry in globals __getitem__/__setitem__

2014-06-12 Thread Gregory Ewing
Robert Lehmann wrote: I have noticed there is a slight asymmetry in the way the interpreter (v3.3.5, reproduced also in v3.5.x) loads and stores globals. While loading globals from a custom mapping triggers __getitem__ just fine, writing seems to silently ignore __setitem__. I didn't think t

Re: http://bugs.python.org/issue19495 timeit enhancement

2014-06-12 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 00:35:43 +0100, Mark Lawrence wrote: > The request is for a class within timeit that allows you to test code > inside a with block. It strikes me as being useful but there's only one > response on the issue, albeit a positive one. If others here think this > would be a useful

Re: OT: This Swift thing

2014-06-12 Thread Rustom Mody
On Thursday, June 12, 2014 10:48:00 PM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 3:04 AM, Steven D'Aprano > > Take three numbers, speeds in this case, s1, s2 and c, with c a strict > > upper-bound. We can take: > > s1 < s2 < c > > without loss of generality. So in this case, we say

Re: http://bugs.python.org/issue19495 timeit enhancement

2014-06-12 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 13Jun2014 00:44, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 00:35:43 +0100, Mark Lawrence wrote: The request is for a class within timeit that allows you to test code inside a with block. It strikes me as being useful but there's only one response on the issue, albeit a positive one. If o

Re: OT: This Swift thing

2014-06-12 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 03:18:00 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 3:04 AM, Steven D'Aprano > wrote: [...] >> Take three numbers, speeds in this case, s1, s2 and c, with c a strict >> upper-bound. We can take: >> >> s1 < s2 < c >> >> without loss of generality. So in this case, w

Python deepcopy to while statement

2014-06-12 Thread hito koto
Hi, all I want to make the function use while statement,and without a deepcopy functions. this is my use deepcopy function correct codes, So, how can i to do a different way and use while statement: def foo(x): if not isinstance(x, list): return x return [foo(y) for y in x]

C-API proper initialization and deallocation of subclasses

2014-06-12 Thread ptb
Hello all, I decided to play around with the C-API and have gotten stuck. I went through the Shoddy example (https://docs.python.org/3/extending/newtypes.html#subclassing-other-types) in the docs and tried to extend it by adding a method which creates and returns a shoddy instance. I dug aro

Re: Python deepcopy to while statement

2014-06-12 Thread hito koto
2014年6月13日金曜日 12時47分19秒 UTC+9 hito koto: > Hi, all > > > > I want to make the function use while statement,and without a deepcopy > functions. > > > > this is my use deepcopy function correct codes, So, how can i to do a > different way and use while statement: > > > > def foo(x): >

Re: Python deepcopy to while statement

2014-06-12 Thread hito koto
2014年6月13日金曜日 12時47分19秒 UTC+9 hito koto: > Hi, all > > > > I want to make the function use while statement,and without a deepcopy > functions. > > > > this is my use deepcopy function correct codes, So, how can i to do a > different way and use while statement: > > > > def foo(x): >

Re: Suds 4.1 Beta Assertion Failure

2014-06-12 Thread dieter
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Re: Asymmetry in globals __getitem__/__setitem__

2014-06-12 Thread Marko Rauhamaa
Gregory Ewing : > I didn't think that using a custom mapping object for globals was > officially supported. Has that changed? The documentation is a bit vague about it: If only globals is provided, it must be a dictionary, which will be used for both the global and the local variables. If