I am unable to get trace to not trace system modules.
I tried:
$ python -m trace --listfuncs tt.py --ignore-module 'bdb' tracefile
$ python -m trace --listfuncs --ignore-dir /usr/lib/python2.6 tt.py
tracefile
and many other combinations
But anyhow my tracefile contains lines like this:
On Dec 9, 1:39 pm, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote:
On 12/9/2010 1:10 AM, rusi wrote:
I am unable to get trace to not trace system modules.
Try it with 3.2b1, just released. Multiple bugs were fixed in trace.
Some fixes might also be in recent 2.7.1 and 3.1.3. Not sure.
--
Terry Jan
On Dec 9, 9:03 pm, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote:
On 12/9/2010 7:12 AM, rusi wrote:
On Dec 9, 1:39 pm, Terry Reedytjre...@udel.edu wrote:
On 12/9/2010 1:10 AM, rusi wrote:
I am unable to get trace to not trace system modules.
Try it with 3.2b1, just released. Multiple bugs were
On Dec 9, 10:37 pm, rusi rustompm...@gmail.com wrote:
On Dec 9, 9:03 pm, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote:
On 12/9/2010 7:12 AM, rusi wrote:
On Dec 9, 1:39 pm, Terry Reedytjre...@udel.edu wrote:
On 12/9/2010 1:10 AM, rusi wrote:
I am unable to get trace to not trace system
In trying to get from 2.x to 3 Terry suggested I use 2.7 with
deprecation warnings
Heres the (first) set
DeprecationWarning: Overriding __eq__ blocks inheritance of __hash__
in 3.x
DeprecationWarning: callable() not supported in 3.x; use isinstance(x,
collections.Callable)
Is there one
On Dec 10, 9:17 pm, nn prueba...@latinmail.com wrote:
On Dec 9, 10:15 pm, rusi rustompm...@gmail.com wrote:
In trying to get from 2.x to 3 Terry suggested I use 2.7 with
deprecation warnings
Heres the (first) set
DeprecationWarning: Overriding __eq__ blocks inheritance of __hash__
On Dec 10, 10:53 am, rusi rustompm...@gmail.com wrote:
Ive installed python 2.7
And trace still ignores my ignore-module etc requests
Is this a know bug with the trace module?
I find it hard to believe that as traces naturally tend to get huge
unless carefully trimmed
--
http://mail.python.org
On Dec 8, 11:24 pm, Adam Tauno Williams awill...@whitemice.org
wrote:
On Wed, 2010-12-08 at 13:18 +0530, Rustom Mody wrote:
If I have a medium to large python code base to browse/study, what are
the class browsers available?
Monodevelop has good Python support which includes a working
On Dec 10, 2:29 am, Gerry Reno gr...@verizon.net wrote:
If you have any need of a portable LAMP stack, I just finished writing
some How-To's for getting Python, VirtualEnv and WSGI frameworks running
with XAMPP:
How-To: Add VirtualEnv and Pylons (WSGI framework) to XAMPP
On Jan 18, 4:13 am, rantingrick rantingr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Jan 17, 4:47 pm, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote:
On 1/16/2011 11:20 PM, rantingrick wrote:
Ok, try this...
http://juicereceiver.sourceforge.net/screenshots/index.php
On Jan 20, 5:30 pm, Bill Felton subscripti...@cagttraining.com
wrote:
With some hesitation, I feel a need to jump in here.
This thread is now at 239 posts (and so I too hesitate...)
The arguments for size, dependencies etc are what may be termed 'sys-
ad' perspectives.
The questions of 'it
On Jan 22, 2:45 am, Clark C. Evans c...@clarkevans.com wrote:
Kirill Simonov and myself would like to introduce HTSQL, a novel
approach to relational database access which is neither an ORM nor raw SQL.
:
We're curious what you think.
Thanks -- looks interesting.
Given the claim htsql is
On Jan 22, 10:20 pm, Kirill Simonov x...@gamma.dn.ua wrote:
On 01/22/2011 12:25 AM, rusi wrote:
On Jan 22, 2:45 am, Clark C. Evansc...@clarkevans.com wrote:
Kirill Simonov and myself would like to introduce HTSQL, a novel
approach to relational database access which is neither an ORM nor
On Jan 23, 5:07 am, rantingrick rantingr...@gmail.com wrote:
WxPython versus Tkinter (A code battle to the death!)
by Rick Johnson.
I have in many threads declared that Tkinter (and TclTk) is currently
--and has been for a decade-- the wrong choice for Python's stdlib
GUI. Throughout the
On Jan 24, 9:16 am, Littlefield, Tyler ty...@tysdomain.com wrote:
PS: Be sure not to cause any segfaults because these linux folks can't
debug for shite!
Or maybe it is that the person fighting and throwing insults around like
candy at a parade can't code for shite. Or *gasp* the library
Just trying to sift the BS from the real issues
Heres a list of the issues relating to GUI toolkits
Look
Nativity-1 (as in apps look like other apps on the OS)
Nativity-2 (as in uses 'bare-metal' and not a separate interpreter)
Themeing (ttk)
Efficiency (extra interpreter)
Cross Platform
On Jan 25, 11:15 pm, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote:
On 1/25/2011 10:29 AM, rusi wrote:
Just trying to sift the BS from the real issues
Heres a list of the issues relating to GUI toolkits
Look
Nativity-1 (as in apps look like other apps on the OS)
Nativity-2 (as in uses 'bare
On Jan 26, 11:18 am, Octavian Rasnita orasn...@gmail.com wrote:
From: rantingrick rantingr...@gmail.com
On Jan 25, 3:41 pm, Corey Richardson kb1...@aim.com wrote:
Do you honestly think he was talking about the accessibility problem?
IMO that should move to another thread, because this one
On Jan 27, 12:02 am, Nicholas Devenish misno...@gmail.com wrote:
Heck, I am probably wasting my time with this post; but you come across
as genuine in your held central beliefs, and so either serious or the
most dedicated and adept troll I have ever encountered. In the case of
the former, I
On Jan 27, 3:35 am, rantingrick rantingr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Jan 26, 3:48 pm, Grant Edwards inva...@invalid.invalid wrote:
People will not separate your personality from the cause you espouse.
You may not like it, but that's a fact. If you are in favor of XYZ,
and act rude and
On Jan 27, 11:45 pm, rantingrick rantingr...@gmail.com wrote:
When has Octavian been uncivil? This lecture of Octavian is ludicris!
You are such a friendly totalitarian, how do you keep a strait face --
Col. Hans Landa?
And this mutual 'support' between Octavian and Ranter is ludicris(sic)
On Jan 27, 10:47 pm, Grant Edwards inva...@invalid.invalid wrote:
So you're saying that you don't see any value in easing communication,
nor presumably in communication itself?
A Goedel-ian meta-recursion problem here Grant:
You want to communicate the need for communication to one who does
On Jan 29, 4:10 am, Ben Finney ben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au wrote:
Note that Raymond is speaking specifically in the context of free
software, where the license is by definition permitting free
redistribution of the source code.
It is an obvious necessary condition that for code to be opened it
On Jan 30, 2:22 am, Ben Finney ben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au wrote:
The “problem”, which I don't consider to be a problem per se, is one of
OS-wide policy, not “installers”. The policy is a matter of tradeoffs
across the system, and isn't “tucking the code away in a dark corner”.
Earlier mail:
On Jan 30, 9:21 am, Steven D'Aprano steve
+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote:
I think this is a fairly accurate description of (one aspect of) the
problem.
If you dont see it as a problem how do you explain that google can
search the World Wide Web better than we can search our
On Jan 30, 6:19 pm, David Boddie da...@boddie.org.uk wrote:
You might find this page useful:
http://www.wikinfo.org/index.php/Comparison_of_desktop_search_software
David
Thanks for that link David
I note particularly the disclaimer that it was removed from wikipedia
[Like when
On Jan 30, 6:31 pm, bansi mail2ba...@gmail.com wrote:
On Jan 28, 4:22 pm, Benjamin Kaplan benjamin.kap...@case.edu wrote:
You'll need to have Visual C++ 2008 (not 2010) installed for this to
work. You can get it for free
fromhttp://www.microsoft.com/express/Downloads/if
you don't
On Jan 30, 10:35 pm, rusi rustompm...@gmail.com wrote:
On Jan 30, 6:31 pm, bansi mail2ba...@gmail.com wrote:
Isn't it possible to implement your suggestion without installing
Visual C++ 2008 .
http://code.google.com/p/pyodbc/wiki/Building#Windows
Well... This is what the official site says
On Jan 31, 12:35 am, rantingrick rantingr...@gmail.com wrote:
Also, can the terms method and function be used interchangeably?
Can the terms cars and truck be used interchangeably?
Oooff! A load of meaning in that one line -- I wonder though if the OP
will understand...
--
On Feb 1, 1:35 am, Raymond Hettinger pyt...@rcn.com wrote:
However, even the parts of the standard library written in pure Python
don't seem to be getting read anymore, so I'm still inclined to
attribute the issue to 1) inconvenient placement of source code,
2) a largish code base, and 3)
On Feb 1, 11:14 am, rusi rustompm...@gmail.com wrote:
On Feb 1, 1:35 am, Raymond Hettinger pyt...@rcn.com wrote:
snipped
O O wrong thread... sorry!
--
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
The following, meant for this thread, went to another my mistake :-)
--
On Feb 1, 1:35 am, Raymond Hettinger pyt...@rcn.com wrote:
However, even the parts of the standard library written in pure Python
don't seem to be getting read anymore, so I'm still inclined to
On Feb 2, 12:32 am, OKB (not okblacke)
brennospamb...@nobrenspambarn.net wrote:
Tim Wintle wrote:
(2) is especially important IMO - under half of the python
developers I have regularly worked with would feel comfortable
reading C - so for the other half reading C source code probably
On Feb 4, 9:34 pm, rusi rustompm...@gmail.com wrote:
[PS Does not read properly in google docs though it reads ok in
acroread and evince ]
Sorry google docs does not like the pdf
Heres a ps
https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B3gsacOF56PxOWUxZTVmOTQtYWIxNy00ZGFjLWEwODUtZDVkM2MyZGI5ZmRkhl=en
On Feb 5, 12:11 am, OKB (not okblacke)
brennospamb...@nobrenspambarn.net wrote:
Very interesting, thanks. I think Python has its own warts
comparable to some of those you mention, but not all. What bothers me
most is when practicality beats purity is invoked, with practicality
On Feb 17, 3:07 am, Xah Lee xah...@gmail.com wrote:
might be interesting.
〈Problems of Symbol Congestion in Computer Languages (ASCII Jam;
Unicode; Fortress)〉http://xahlee.org/comp/comp_lang_unicode.html
Haskell is slowly moving this way see for example
On Feb 28, 11:39 pm, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote:
You miss the canonical bad character reuse case: = vs ==.
Had there been more meta keys, it might be nice to have a symbol for
each key on the keyboard. I personally have experimented with putting
the symbols as regular keys and the
On Mar 1, 6:01 pm, Mark Thomas m...@thomaszone.com wrote:
I know someone who was involved in creating a language called A+. It
was invented at Morgan Stanley where they used Sun keyboards and had
access to many symbols, so the language did have set symbols, math
symbols, logic symbols etc.
On Mar 10, 10:47 am, Sunjay Varma varma.sun...@gmail.com wrote:
For some reason, sub-classing and overwriting a built-in type does not
change the behavior of the literal.
Have you looked through this?
http://www.python.org/download/releases/2.2/descrintro/#subclassing
[Dunno exactly how
On Friday, August 2, 2013 12:05:53 PM UTC+5:30, Ben Finney wrote:
Skip Montanaro writes:
I really love Emacs, however... […]
This is clearly a case where choosing the proper tool is important. I
agree that using a spreadsheet to edit a 3x5 CSV file is likely
overkill (might just as
On Friday, September 6, 2013 10:26:07 PM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Not specifically about Python, but still relevant:
http://blog.kickin-the-darkness.com/2007/09/confessions-of-terrible-programmer.html
Nice post -- thanks!
Prompted this from me
On Wednesday, September 11, 2013 7:44:04 PM UTC+5:30, mnishpsyched wrote:
Hey i am a programmer but new to python. Can anyone guide me in knowing which
is a better IDE used to develop web related apps that connect to DB using
python?
Just saw this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-dUkyn_fZA
On Thursday, September 12, 2013 10:21:49 PM UTC+5:30, Benjamin Kaplan wrote:
The main difference between wx and qt is that qt looks native on every
platform
while wx *is* native on every platform (it uses native controls wherever
possible). This means that wx integrates into the OS better,
On Tuesday, September 17, 2013 9:49:28 PM UTC+5:30, Benjamin Kaplan wrote:
On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 7:55 AM, rusi wrote:
On Thursday, September 12, 2013 10:21:49 PM UTC+5:30, Benjamin Kaplan wrote:
The main difference between wx and qt is that qt looks native on every
platform
On Wednesday, September 18, 2013 7:12:21 AM UTC+5:30, Bryan Britten wrote:
Hey, gang, I've got a problem here that I'm sure a handful of you will know
how to solve. I've got about 6 *.csv files that I am trying to open; change
the header names (to get rid of spaces); add two new columns,
On Friday, September 20, 2013 3:28:00 PM UTC+5:30, Aseem Bansal wrote:
I started Python 4 months ago. Largely self-study with use of Python
documentation, stackoverflow and google. I was thinking what is the minimum
that I must know before I can say that I know Python?
I come from a C
On Friday, September 20, 2013 7:09:13 PM UTC+5:30, Robert Kern wrote:
On 2013-09-20 12:43, rusi wrote:
Stroustrup says he is still learning C++ and I know kids who have no qualms
saying they know programming language L (for various values of L) after
hardly an hour or two of mostly
On Friday, September 20, 2013 8:51:20 PM UTC+5:30, Kasper Guldmann wrote:
I was playing around with lambda functions, but I cannot seem to fully grasp
them. I was running the script below in Python 2.7.5, and it doesn't do what
I want it to. Are lambda functions really supposed to work that
On Sunday, September 22, 2013 3:13:13 AM UTC+5:30, Peter Cacioppi wrote:
This is an idea brought over from another post.
When I write Python code I generally have 2 or 3 windows open simultaneously.
1) An editor for the actual code.
2) The interactive interpreter.
3) An editor for the
On Monday, September 23, 2013 12:27:50 AM UTC+5:30, John Ladasky wrote:
All right, never mind!
I hacked around this morning, making some changes to parts of my program that
I thought were unrelated to my namespace issues. I was paring it down to a
minimal example, to post here as Ned
Combining your two questions -- Recently:
What minimum should a person know before saying I know Python
And earlier this
On Sunday, August 4, 2013 10:00:35 PM UTC+5:30, Aseem Bansal wrote:
If there is an issue in place for improving the lambda forms then that's
good. I wanted a link about
Take a look at babel
http://www.cs.unm.edu/~eschulte/data/CISE-13-3-SciProg.pdf
http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/babel/intro.html
Its my impression that babel supports everything and more that pylatex does
...the catch is that its under emacs...!!
--
On Monday, September 23, 2013 2:01:00 PM UTC+5:30, Peter Cacioppi wrote:
One thing re: editors and interactive environments. I'm not a huge emacs fan
(ducking) and I really like iPython.
Heh! Yeah we are an endangered species
G enerally
N ot
U sed
E ditor for
M iddle
A ged
C omputer
S
On Monday, September 23, 2013 11:54:53 PM UTC+5:30, Vito De Tullio wrote:
rusi wrote:
[Not everything said there is correct; eg python supports currying better
[than haskell which is surprising considering that Haskell's surname is
[Curry!]
AFAIK python does not support currying
On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 1:12:51 PM UTC+5:30, Jussi Piitulainen wrote:
rusi writes:
Without resorting to lambdas/new-functions:
With functools.partial one can freeze any subset of a
function(callable's) parameters.
In Haskell one can only freeze the first parameter
On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 8:21:19 PM UTC+5:30, Jussi Piitulainen wrote:
Would the type system get in the way of providing some analogous
function in Haskell? I don't know.
Yes.
The haskell curry
curry f x y = f (x,y)
is really only curry2
curry3 would be
curry3 f x y z = f (x,y,z)
and so
On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 8:56:21 PM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 1:07 AM, rusi wrote:
And this is an old conundrum in programming language design:
In C printf is easy to write and NOT put into the language but into
external libraries
In Pascal
On Thursday, September 26, 2013 4:54:22 AM UTC+5:30, Arturo B wrote:
So I know what recursion is, but I don't know how is
flatten(i)
evaluated, what value does it returns?
When you are a noob, who do you ask? The gurus.
When you are a guru who do you ask? The
On Friday, September 27, 2013 12:43:51 AM UTC+5:30, D.YAN ESCOLAR RAMBAL wrote:
Good morning all
thanks for your help. Now I`ve a question, if I need create a matrix, method
of thomas, ghost nodes, etc.. for developed one aplicative for the ecuation
of difusion in 1d, 2d, 3d, 4d. It`s
On Friday, September 27, 2013 4:13:52 PM UTC+5:30, Dave Angel wrote:
You should study APL. Many functions were written in one line, with
twenty lines of explanation. The function itself was considered
unreadable nonsense. And if a function stopped working, general wisdom
was to throw it out,
On Thursday, September 26, 2013 4:54:22 AM UTC+5:30, Arturo B wrote:
So I know what recursion is, but I don't know how is
flatten(i)
evaluated, what value does it returns?
There is a folklore in CS that recursion is hard
[To iterate is human, to recurse divine --
On Tuesday, October 1, 2013 6:11:18 AM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 19:04:32 +0200, Franck Ditter wrote:
2. Lambda-expression body is limited to one expression. Why ?
Nobody has come up with syntax that is unambiguous, would allow multiple
statements in an
On Monday, September 30, 2013 11:20:16 PM UTC+5:30, vignesh.h...@gmail.com
wrote:
Thank you both so much! I'll be sure to make more pertinent subject lines now
:) Thanks for the detailed explanations! Clearly, I've just started learning
this language ~20 minutes before I made this post, and
On Wednesday, October 2, 2013 3:00:41 AM UTC+5:30, Terry Reedy wrote:
Part of the reason that Python does not do tail call optimization is
that turning tail recursion into while iteration is almost trivial, once
you know the secret of the two easy steps. Here it is.
What happens for mutual
On Wednesday, October 2, 2013 1:53:46 PM UTC+5:30, Alain Ketterlin wrote:
rusi writes:
On Wednesday, October 2, 2013 3:00:41 AM UTC+5:30, Terry Reedy wrote:
Part of the reason that Python does not do tail call optimization is
that turning tail recursion into while iteration is almost
On Thursday, October 3, 2013 10:57:48 PM UTC+5:30, Ravi Sahni wrote:
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 10:46 AM, rusi wrote:
4. There is a whole spectrum of such optimizaitons --
4a eg a single-call structural recursion example, does not need to push
return address on the stack. It only needs
On Sunday, October 6, 2013 2:35:24 PM UTC+5:30, Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick wrote:
So, instead of this, maybe we should work on getting psycopg2 to the
top result on Googling “python sql”, or even “python mysql” with an
anti-MySQL ad? (like vim was doing some time ago on Googling “emacs”)
Do you
On Tuesday, October 8, 2013 5:54:10 AM UTC+5:30, zipher wrote:
Now, one can easily argue that I've gone too far to say no one has
understood it (obviously), so it's very little tongue-in-cheek, but
really, when one tries to pretend that one model of computation can be
substituted for another
On Tuesday, October 8, 2013 10:46:50 AM UTC+5:30, Ravi Sahni wrote:
With due respect Sir, you saying that Turing machine not a machine?
Very confusion Sir!!!
Thanks Ravi for the 'due respect' though it is a bit out of place on a list
like this :-)
Thanks even more for the 'very confusion'. I
On Tuesday, October 8, 2013 10:49:11 AM UTC+5:30, zipher wrote:
I don't have an infinite stack to implement
lambda calculus, but...
And then
But this is not a useful formalism. Any particular Program implements
a DFA, even as it runs on a TM. The issue of whether than TM is
finite or not
On Tuesday, October 8, 2013 6:31:21 PM UTC+5:30, Ravi Sahni wrote:
On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 11:14 AM, rusi wrote:
To explain at length will be too long and OT (off-topic) for this list.
I'll just give you a link and you tell me what you make of it:
http://sloan.stanford.edu/mousesite
On Thursday, October 10, 2013 6:40:19 AM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
I have no objection to encouraging people to read the fine manual, and I
don't intend to be Nikos' (or anyone else's) unpaid full-time help desk
and troubleshooter. But I do think it is simply unfair to treat him more
On Thursday, October 10, 2013 8:04:00 PM UTC+5:30, David wrote:
I have never heard the term hypercomplex numbers. I guess you
are referring to vectors with more dimensions than two. A three
A generalization of quaternions :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypercomplex_number
On Sunday, October 13, 2013 6:34:56 PM UTC+5:30, Roy Smith wrote:
To be fair to Larry, there were different design drivers working there.
One more thing to be said for perl:
I remember when some colleague first told me about perl (I guess early 90s) I
was incredulous that the *same* language
On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 7:01:37 AM UTC+5:30, zipher wrote:
Yes, and all of that is because, the world has not settled on some
simple facts. It needs an understanding of type system. It's been
throwing terms around, some of which are well-defined, but others,
not: there has been
On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:48:25 AM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Mon, 14 Oct 2013 12:18:59 -0700, John Nagle wrote:
No, Python went through the usual design screwups. Look at how
painful the slow transition to Unicode was, from just str to Unicode
strings, ASCII strings,
On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 2:20:10 PM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
If you read the whole python-history blog on blogspot, you'll see that
Python's had it's share of mistakes, design failures and other oops!
moments. I think that it is a testament to GvR's over-all design that the
end
On Wednesday, October 16, 2013 1:56:27 AM UTC+5:30, zipher wrote:
Objects in programming languages (or 'values' if one is more functional
programming oriented) correspond to things in the world.
One of the things you're saying there is that values correspond to
things in the world. But
On Wednesday, October 16, 2013 3:31:06 AM UTC+5:30, Rhodri James wrote:
On Tue, 15 Oct 2013 21:26:27 +0100, Mark Janssen
wrote:
= Rusi, attribution missing from original.
Yes. It would help to keep your quotes bound (firstclassly?) to their
respective quoters -- Mark Janssen also
On Wednesday, October 16, 2013 12:35:42 PM UTC+5:30, Stéphane Wirtel wrote:
Keep it in memory
Thats a strange answer given that the OP says his file is huge.
Of course 'huge' may not really be huge -- that really depends on the h/w he's
using.
--
On Wednesday, October 16, 2013 11:27:03 PM UTC+5:30, zipher wrote:
Types on the other hand correspond to our classifications and so are
things in our minds.
That is not how a C programmer views it. They have explicit
typedefs that make it a thing for the computer.
Speaking as a C
On Thursday, October 17, 2013 6:17:57 AM UTC+5:30, Ned Batchelder wrote:
On 10/16/13 8:13 PM, Mark Janssen wrote:
Who uses object abstraction in C? No one. That's why C++ was
invented.
Examples from
1. Linux Kernel
2. Python
3. OS/2
But, here it is significant that the user
On Thursday, October 17, 2013 12:19:02 PM UTC+5:30, Peter Cacioppi wrote:
Object oriented programming takes things further, most significantly by
introducing the idea that the object reference you are referencing might be a
run time dependent sub-class. Even Python, which isn't strongly
On Thursday, October 17, 2013 6:09:59 PM UTC+5:30, rusi wrote:
On Thursday, October 17, 2013 12:19:02 PM UTC+5:30, Peter Cacioppi wrote:
Object oriented programming takes things further, most significantly by
introducing the idea that the object reference you are referencing might
On Thursday, October 17, 2013 5:18:25 PM UTC+5:30, Zero Piraeus wrote:
:
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 09:20:39AM +, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Oh well. There's only so much I can do at once. I've got bigger
troubles than trying to solve Ruby's problems with yahoos, and
frankly, if I
On Wednesday, October 16, 2013 1:56:27 AM UTC+5:30, zipher wrote:
Yes, well clearly we are not having the same thoughts, yet the
purpose of the academic establishment is to pin down such terminology
and not have these sloppy understandings everywhere. You dig?
Heh Mark I am really sorry. I
On Thursday, October 17, 2013 11:14:29 PM UTC+5:30, MRAB wrote:
On 17/10/2013 18:32, rusi wrote:
On Wednesday, October 16, 2013 1:56:27 AM UTC+5:30, zipher wrote:
Yes, well clearly we are not having the same thoughts, yet the
purpose of the academic establishment is to pin down
On Friday, October 18, 2013 7:38:30 AM UTC+5:30, zipher wrote:
It's like this. No matter how you cut it, you're going to get back to
the computers where you load instructions with switches. At that point,
I'll be very much looking in anticipation to your binary-digit lexer.
Why stop
On Saturday, October 19, 2013 2:02:24 AM UTC+5:30, Peter Cacioppi wrote:
I still say that object-based is a distinct and meaningful subset of
object-oriented programming.
Yes that is what is asserted by
http://www-public.int-evry.fr/~gibson/Teaching/CSC7322/ReadingMaterial/Wegner87.pdf
-- a
On Saturday, October 19, 2013 8:40:37 PM UTC+5:30, Roy Smith wrote:
Zero Piraeus wrote:
For example, a miscreant may create the username 'míguel' in order to
pose as another user 'miguel', relying on other users inattentiveness.
Asciifying is one way of reducing the risk of that.
On Saturday, October 19, 2013 7:04:30 PM UTC+5:30, Scott Novinger wrote:
My plan is to create several different programs that perform specific
Algebraic
operations. My boys are learning Algebra 2 and I thought it might be a fun
way
to help us all learn Algebra and programming together.
On Monday, October 14, 2013 10:32:36 AM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 20:13:32 -0700, Tim Roberts wrote:
def add(c1, c2):
% Decode
c1 = ord(c1) - 65
c2 = ord(c2) - 65
% Process
i1 = (c1 + c2) % 26
% Encode
return
On Monday, October 21, 2013 7:51:12 AM UTC+5:30, Roy Smith wrote:
In article
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
According to
some, Java, which has many low-level machine primitive types, is an
object-oriented language, while Python, which has no machine primitives
and where every value is an
On Monday, October 21, 2013 2:13:52 PM UTC+5:30, Peter Cacioppi wrote:
Specifically the following seems so misguided as to be deliberate trolling.
The same could be said for this below… but…
One of the reasons multiple languages exist is because people find that
useful programming idioms
On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 8:25:58 AM UTC+5:30, Peter Cacioppi wrote:
Guess-who said:
but it's ugly, by which I mean it is hard to use, error prone, and not
easily maintained.
OK, I see the problem. What you call ugly is really just objectively bad.
You continue to not attribute quotes.
On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 1:59:36 AM UTC+5:30, Ned Batchelder wrote:
On 10/21/13 4:14 PM, Mark Janssen wrote:
On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 12:46 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
An optimizing JIT compiler can
often produce much more efficient, heavily optimized code than a static
AOT compiler,
Mark Janssen said:
Unattributed
No its not like those 'compilers' i dont really agree with a compiler
generating C/C++ and saying its producing native code. I dont really
believe
its truely within the statement. Compilers that do that tend to put in alot
of type saftey code and
On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 11:53:22 PM UTC+5:30, Ned Batchelder wrote:
A BNF doesn't provide enough information to compile a program to C.
That's all I'm trying to help you understand. If you don't agree, then
we have to talk about the meaning of the words BNF, compile, program, and C.
I
On Wednesday, October 23, 2013 7:06:40 AM UTC+5:30, alex23 wrote:
On 23/10/2013 4:40 AM, Ned Batchelder wrote:
I've tried to be polite, and I've tried to be helpful, but I'm sorry:
either you don't understand a lot of the terms you are throwing around,
or you aren't disciplined enough to
On Thursday, October 24, 2013 5:16:58 PM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 06:36:04 -0400, Ned Batchelder wrote:
coverage.py currently runs on 2.3 through 3.4
You support all the way back to 2.3???
I don't know whether to admire your dedication, or back away slowly
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