On Tue, 16 Mar 2010, Tom Roche wrote:
> It Seems To Me (quite possibly naively) that the best/easiest way to
> get smarter completion particularly, and several more services
> besides, is to use CEDET
or may be (citing my post earlier in this list):
Ipython + python-mode + python-ropemacs + pyli
On Mar 16, 2010, at 07:37 AM, Eric M. Ludlam wrote:
>Exuberent ctags supports python (though I don't know by how much), and
>adding support in the CEDET/Semantic exuberant ctags support wouldn't be
>too hard. Likely something like the patch attached.
exuberent-tags is a separate package on Ubu
On Mar 18, 2010, at 04:19 PM, Deniz Dogan wrote:
>While we are already updating documentation, could someone change the
>instructions to use `add-to-list' instead of using `setq' in
>combination with `cons'? I'm not sure when `add-to-list' was added to
>Emacs/XEmacs, but I'm pretty sure it's "anci
On Mar 16, 2010, at 04:22 PM, Tom Roche wrote:
>Perhaps this will be useful. As I know little about your procedures, had
>never used bzr at all until yesterday, and had never done a bzr commit
>until 10 min ago, please let me know if anything needs done better/
>correctly.
I think you did it just
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Am 19.03.2010 15:58, schrieb Reinout van Rees:
> On 03/19/2010 03:34 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote:
>> On Mar 19, 2010, at 11:07 AM, Reinout van Rees wrote:
>>
>>> ctrl-h *is* sadly the logical key for some help-related function. Would
>>> "ctrl-c h" be an a
>> The C-h binding is very important for discoverability, and I think it
>> is a very, very bad idea to bind it to anything.
Barry> If we /do/ change it, may I suggest C-c C-e? 'e' being a
Barry> mnemonic for 'explain', and C-c C-e is currently unused in
Barry> python-mode.
On Mar 19, 2010, at 05:12 PM, Reinout van Rees wrote:
>On 03/19/2010 04:21 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote:
>>
>> Any objections to C-c C-e?
>
>None at all. That e-for-explain you mentioned sounds fine.
Cool. Bug updated.
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On 03/19/2010 04:21 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote:
Any objections to C-c C-e?
None at all. That e-for-explain you mentioned sounds fine.
Reinout
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On Mar 19, 2010, at 03:58 PM, Reinout van Rees wrote:
>Hm. It is apparently not as clear-cut as I always took it to be. Emacs'
>info (for instance
>http://www.chemie.fu-berlin.de/chemnet/use/info/emacs/emacs_11.html ):
>
> C-h or F1 means "help" in various other contexts as well. For
> exam
On 03/19/2010 03:34 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote:
On Mar 19, 2010, at 11:07 AM, Reinout van Rees wrote:
ctrl-h *is* sadly the logical key for some help-related function. Would
"ctrl-c h" be an alternative?
Hi Reinout. Is that defined in an Emacs Lisp standard somewhere? I'm having
a hard time fi
On Mar 19, 2010, at 10:13 AM, Rohan Nicholls wrote:
>The C-h binding is very important for discoverability, and I think it
>is a very, very bad idea to bind it to anything.
If we /do/ change it, may I suggest C-c C-e? 'e' being a mnemonic for
'explain', and C-c C-e is currently unused in python-
On Mar 19, 2010, at 11:07 AM, Reinout van Rees wrote:
>> Line 692:
>>(define-key py-mode-map "\C-c\C-h" 'py-help-at-point)
>
>Ouch. Yes, that's evil. It breaks a major emacs convention.
>
>ctrl-h *is* sadly the logical key for some help-related function. Would
>"ctrl-c h" be an alternativ
On Mar 19, 2010, at 09:54 AM, Reinout van Rees wrote:
>ctrl-c ctrl-h: show everything I can do after ctrl-c here.
C-c C-h is not bound to anything in c-mode or conf-mode AFAICT. So, if it's
not a standard Emacs key binding, does that mean it's explicitly reserved for
users by Emacs?
-Barry
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> "Deniz" == Deniz Dogan writes:
Deniz> Maybe C-c C-? would work, but I'm not sure how that is recognized
Deniz> by terminals.
Not at all on my Sun (Intel) box running Solaris 10 with a Dell keyboard.
It maps to C-c ?...
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2010/3/19 Reinout van Rees :
> On 03/19/2010 10:57 AM, Deniz Dogan wrote:
>>
>> 2010/3/19 Reinout van Rees:
>>>
>>> (What I don't know is where in python mode he found a ctrl-h binding,
>>> btw).
>>>
>>
>> In python-mode.el with py-version "5.1.0+" whatever that means:
>>
>> Line 692:
>> (define-
s...@pobox.com wrote:
> Deniz> In python-mode.el with py-version "5.1.0+" whatever that means:
>
> Deniz> Line 692:
> Deniz> (define-key py-mode-map "\C-c\C-h" 'py-help-at-point)
>
> Yeah, that was probably my doing a long time ago.
>
> Skip
> _
Deniz> In python-mode.el with py-version "5.1.0+" whatever that means:
Deniz> Line 692:
Deniz> (define-key py-mode-map "\C-c\C-h" 'py-help-at-point)
Yeah, that was probably my doing a long time ago.
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On 03/19/2010 10:57 AM, Deniz Dogan wrote:
2010/3/19 Reinout van Rees:
(What I don't know is where in python mode he found a ctrl-h binding, btw).
In python-mode.el with py-version "5.1.0+" whatever that means:
Line 692:
(define-key py-mode-map "\C-c\C-h" 'py-help-at-point)
Ouch. Yes
2010/3/19 Reinout van Rees :
> On 03/19/2010 07:27 AM, Andreas Roehler wrote:
>>
>> Deniz Dogan wrote:
>>>
>>> 2010/3/18 Andreas Roehler:
Deniz Dogan wrote:
>
> Please, don't bind C-c C-h to anything. This prevents people from
> viewing all the bindings that start with C-c, wh
On 03/19/2010 07:27 AM, Andreas Roehler wrote:
Deniz Dogan wrote:
2010/3/18 Andreas Roehler:
Deniz Dogan wrote:
Please, don't bind C-c C-h to anything. This prevents people from
viewing all the bindings that start with C-c, which C-c C-h would
normally display.
Hi Deniz,
it may help, if you
I am going to weigh in here. Denis is absolutely correct.
It is an official binding and convention in emacs, and I believe
xemacs.
C-h is sacred. It has a bunch of functionality behind it tied in with
prefix keys. This means that in creating a map, and binding it to a
prefix key, when you hit:
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