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On Feb 1, 2009, at 1:26 PM, Dave Love wrote:
Doubtless, but Emacs isn't just for Python programmers, and surely
modes
should be consistent.
That's pretty much a universal design decision across all of software,
isn't it? python.el takes one a
Barry Warsaw writes:
> python-mode.el works fine in Emacs
Maybe now -- I haven't checked closely -- but it didn't when I tried to
fix it, and people are now trying to incorporate Emacs-specific
features. I found the issues actually using it originally, and others
did according to Debian bug rep
Barry Warsaw wrote:
I also think that python-mode.el feels more natural to Python
programmers, but I have only anecdotal evidence for that. Just last
week I had a colleague ask me why Emacs wasn't working the way he wanted
while editing his Python code. I made a wild guess and pointed him to
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On Jan 27, 2009, at 8:17 PM, Dave Love wrote:
I'm sorry I'm not in your club, but I think understanding Emacs is
most
important thing for contributing language support (assuming the
language
is sufficiently well-defined and it doesn't require la
Beverley Eyre writes:
> But, it was my
> understanding, based on my readings of rms' stuff, that 'free' software
> is free so that people who care to can change the code.
Partly, yes.
> More, they can distribute this altered code to all and sundry as long
> it remains 'free'.
You should re-r
Barry Warsaw writes:
> While technically the python-mode.el file does not have GPL license
> on it, we've tried many times in the past to assign copyright so that
> it /could/ have such a license on it, and even be owned by the FSF.
Like I just posted elsewhere (?), we -- I think at least t
Andreas Roehler writes:
> Somehow this diff --thanks btw-- contradicts your
> arging here, don't it?
No, but what's that got to do with FSF copyright?
> so I wrote an intentionally incompatible mode
>
> that's human...
Mainly engineering as far as I'm concerned.
> Is python.el now included in
"s...@pobox.com" writes:
> Based on my own personal experience I don't think you
> can lay all the blame on the folks who have contributed to python-mode.el.
Who's laying blame? There wasn't much point in me pursuing any other
authors without an assignment for Barry's code, but it's now moot.
Barry Warsaw wrote:
> On Jan 19, 2009, at 4:48 AM, Andreas Roehler wrote:
>
>> I didn't sign code to FSF and probably will not. The reasons I already
>> declared on
>> FSF-list and towards RMS.
>
> Do you have a pointer to that discussion?
>
Raised my concerns at several occasions. The most com
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On Jan 19, 2009, at 4:48 AM, Andreas Roehler wrote:
I didn't sign code to FSF and probably will not. The reasons I
already declared on
FSF-list and towards RMS.
Do you have a pointer to that discussion?
Will not make it up here, unless you ask
Barry Warsaw wrote:
> On Jan 18, 2009, at 4:29 PM, Dave Love wrote:
>
>> There is talk in the python-mode.el and on the web site of merging it
>> with python.el. I hope people realize that can only be done in
>> accordance with the GPL licence of python.el -- i.e. one way -- although
>> it doesn'
Dave Love wrote:
> There is talk in the python-mode.el and on the web site of merging it
> with python.el. I hope people realize that can only be done in
> accordance with the GPL licence of python.el -- i.e. one way -- although
> it doesn't seem useful anyhow.
Hi Dave,
I'm glad to see your pos
Dave,
Please forgive me for asking, what may seem to you to be, a dumb
question. But I'm not a lawyer and my brain is not formatted with
whatever structure it needs to understand legal stuff. But, it was my
understanding, based on my readings of rms' stuff, that 'free' software
is free so tha
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On Jan 18, 2009, at 4:29 PM, Dave Love wrote:
There is talk in the python-mode.el and on the web site of merging it
with python.el. I hope people realize that can only be done in
accordance with the GPL licence of python.el -- i.e. one way --
alt
Dave> Anyway the main raison d'être for python.el was that we couldn't
Dave> get copyright papers for python-mode.el for inclusion in Emacs
Funny that. The FSF paperwork mavens have failed several times (at least
three that I'm aware of) to get paperwork to me for my signature. The one
There is talk in the python-mode.el and on the web site of merging it
with python.el. I hope people realize that can only be done in
accordance with the GPL licence of python.el -- i.e. one way -- although
it doesn't seem useful anyhow. There's already been an attempt to put
python.el code into p
Beverley,
If you're taking requests, support for "which-func-mode" might be on
my list for the python-mode.el merge. Thanks.
Jeff Bauer
Rubicon, Inc.
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On Jan 12, 2009, at 12:01 PM, Beverley Eyre wrote:
Thanks for the offer. I'll definitely send my code along to you (or
post is where everyone can get it).
If possible, all code should be uploaded as a Launchpad branch.
- -Barry
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Andreas,
Thanks for the offer. I'll definitely send my code along to you (or
post is where everyone can get it).
- Bev
Andreas Roehler wrote:
Hi Beverly,
should I be able to assist you with some checks, please
feel free to send the code.
I run python 2.5 with
XEmacs 21.5 (beta28)
Hi Beverly,
should I be able to assist you with some checks, please
feel free to send the code.
I run python 2.5 with
XEmacs 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" (+CVS-20070806) [Lucid] (i386-suse-linux, Mule) of
Sun Sep 23 2007 on verdi
GNU Emacs 22.1.1 (i586-suse-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.12.0) of 2007-11
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On Jan 8, 2009, at 2:50 AM, Andreas Roehler wrote:
IMO exists no easy way to merge at all here in general.
Proceeding differs occasionally profoundly; results and
chances are only seen partly (at least for me). So I
wouldn't want to say: drop this
Just see a new python.el at emacs-sources...
Cheers
Andreas Röhler
Beverley Eyre wrote:
> I see that the initial emails that Barry and I exchanged are here, but
> not the rest. Briefly, I'm going to take on the task of comparing and
> analyzing python.el (GNU) and python-mode.el (Launchpad) with
Hi all,
IMO exists no easy way to merge at all here in general.
Proceedings differ; results and chances are only seen
partly (at least for me).
After all the only useful way I imagine is to regard
form by form starting from an real issue/feature to
implement.
So my question would be: Do you se
Hi Beverley,
IMO exists no easy way to merge at all here in general.
Proceeding differs occasionally profoundly; results and
chances are only seen partly (at least for me). So I
wouldn't want to say: drop this form, take another and
rebuild with that.
After all the only useful way I imagine is
I see that the initial emails that Barry and I exchanged are here, but
not the rest. Briefly, I'm going to take on the task of comparing and
analyzing python.el (GNU) and python-mode.el (Launchpad) with the idea
that a merged and better-than-either version can be created, and will
begin by doin
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On Jan 1, 2009, at 9:56 PM, Beverley Eyre wrote:
I'm writing because I am interested in helping merge python.el with
python-mode.el and your website suggested that I contact you. I'm
happy that there is someone on Earth besides me who uses emacs
Hi,
I'm writing because I am interested in helping merge python.el with
python-mode.el and your website suggested that I contact you. I'm happy
that there is someone on Earth besides me who uses emacs to edit python
code and wants a better mode.
- Beverley Eyre
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