Brendan Miller Sat, 22 Oct 2011 13:24:13 -0700
> How do [python-mode.el and python.el] compare?
This may be irrelevant to you, and may be wrong, but my impression is that
1 the difference between the two that I find most significant is,
python-mode.el is under much more active development than
Am 22.10.2011 22:24, schrieb Brendan Miller:
What features does python-mode.el have above the version of python.el
that is included in GNU emacs? How do they compare?
"M-x py- TAB" displays a buffer with commands implemented by python-mode.el
resp. "M-x python-" TAB for python.el
As command
What features does python-mode.el have above the version of python.el
that is included in GNU emacs? How do they compare?
I recently tried to get ipython.el working, and found it had a
dependency on python-mode.el... This has prompted me to wonder what
the real differences between these modes are.
Stefan Monnier wrote:
> The problem was with some of the other contributors, from what I remember.
For example, Andreas Roehler has issues with copyright assignments:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2008-03/msg00029.html
Besides that, in 2008 an attempt was made to make a list of
Hi Andreas,
On 3/30/2011 8:10 AM, Andreas Röhler wrote:
glad to see Emacs python facilities improve. As you mention
python-mode.el, there are some remarks in python.el which I feel are not
correct. If some solution predates historically another, there are
usually some setbacks from being the fi
Please don't reply on this list.
Stefan
> "Andreas" == Andreas Röhler writes:
> Am 05.04.2011 00:24, schrieb Glenn Morris:
>> Stefan Monnier wrote:
>>
>>> The problem was with some of the other contributors, from what I remember.
>>
>> For example, Andreas Roehler has issues with
Am 05.04.2011 00:24, schrieb Glenn Morris:
Stefan Monnier wrote:
The problem was with some of the other contributors, from what I remember.
For example, Andreas Roehler has issues with copyright assignments:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2008-03/msg00029.html
So it is. My
>> The problem was with some of the other contributors, from what I
>> remember.
Barry> Is there a way to check specifically? I'm sure we could get
Barry> Skip, Tim, and Ken to sign papers if necessary.
I have also volunteered relatively recently (within the last couple months)
On Apr 04, 2011, at 05:46 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote:
>>> ;; That isn't covered by an FSF copyright assignment (?), unlike this
>>> ;; code, and seems not to be well-maintained for Emacs (though I've
>>> ;; submitted fixes).
>
>> I've said before, but it's worth repeating. While I still believe tha
>> ;; That isn't covered by an FSF copyright assignment (?), unlike this
>> ;; code, and seems not to be well-maintained for Emacs (though I've
>> ;; submitted fixes).
> I've said before, but it's worth repeating. While I still believe that at
> some point I did sign a copyright assignment for my
On Apr 03, 2011, at 08:55 PM, Andreas Röhler wrote:
>;; That isn't covered by an FSF copyright assignment (?), unlike this
>;; code, and seems not to be well-maintained for Emacs (though I've
>;; submitted fixes).
I've said before, but it's worth repeating. While I still believe that at
some poi
> ;; That isn't covered by an FSF copyright assignment (?),
IIUC this is still the case (and historically it's the main reason why
it's not been included in Emacs).
> ;; unlike this ;; code, and seems not to be well-maintained for Emacs
> (though I've ;; submitted fixes).
Indeed, it is better to
Am 03.04.2011 19:45, schrieb Christoph Scholtes:
Hi Andreas,
On 3/30/2011 8:10 AM, Andreas Röhler wrote:
glad to see Emacs python facilities improve. As you mention
python-mode.el, there are some remarks in python.el which I feel are not
correct. If some solution predates historically another,
Thanks for CC'ing me. I'm now subscribed to emacs-devel via Gmane.
On Mar 30, 2011, at 04:10 PM, Andreas Röhler wrote:
>glad to see Emacs python facilities improve. As you mention python-mode.el,
>there are some remarks in python.el which I feel are not correct. If some
>solution predates histor
Am 30.03.2011 04:58, schrieb Christoph Scholtes:
Stefan Monnier writes:
Could you just clarify why they're considered obsolete (e.g. what would
the user use instead)?
`python-shell' is not needed since Dave's mode already had
'run-python' to invoke the python interpreter. It offers no advant
Eric> in all seriousness, please don't waste any more time on the free
Eric> software foundation. I have decided to not support them anymore
Eric> since Stallman told me that the needs of free software come before
Eric> the needs of disabled people.
+1.
S
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On 2/4/2011 12:37 PM, Andreas Röhler wrote:
Am 04.02.2011 16:30, schrieb Barry Warsaw:
On Feb 04, 2011, at 09:16 AM, Andreas Röhler wrote:
oh bloody hell, this is the third time I've seen you guys go around this barn.
:-) try something different like merging work with the other other pytho
Am 04.02.2011 16:30, schrieb Barry Warsaw:
On Feb 04, 2011, at 09:16 AM, Andreas Röhler wrote:
However, let me clarify: Emacs _can_ include, as long it is GPL and it is.
But they won't.
And so we can.
Yes, we're not bound by the same copyright assignment policy.
It's just to give up the
On Feb 04, 2011, at 09:16 AM, Andreas Röhler wrote:
>However, let me clarify: Emacs _can_ include, as long it is GPL and it is.
But they won't.
>And so we can.
Yes, we're not bound by the same copyright assignment policy.
>It's just to give up the insane copyright-policy, where I see no legiti
[ ... ]
He must
have a big bee in his bonnet.
Always being patient with the genial.
Which permits being patient with the common one, including myself.
:-)
Cheers
Andreas
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Am 03.02.2011 22:48, schrieb Aaron Culich:
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 1:13 PM, wrote:
Georg> - From reading emacs-devel, it seems that the python.el has made
Georg> changes to the mode and explicitly taken them out of the
Georg> copyright assignment for the FSF, so Emacs upstream c
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Am 04.02.2011 09:16, schrieb Andreas Röhler:
> Am 03.02.2011 21:23, schrieb Georg Brandl:
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>> - From reading emacs-devel, it seems that the python.el has made
>> changes to the mode and explicitly t
Am 03.02.2011 21:23, schrieb Georg Brandl:
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- From reading emacs-devel, it seems that the python.el has made
changes to the mode and explicitly taken them out of the copyright
assignment for the FSF, so Emacs upstream can't include them.
So now we ar
>> Would we be able to find all the contributors and get them to sign
>> papers for the FSF? Otherwise there's no need to even think about
>> that step.
Barry> At one point in the distant past we *did* that and sent it to the
Barry> FSF (IIRC, Tim Peters, Ken M. and myself at
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>Would we be able to find all the contributors and get them to sign papers
>for the FSF? Otherwise there's no need to even think about that step.
At one point in the distant past we *did* that and
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 1:13 PM, wrote:
>
>Georg> - From reading emacs-devel, it seems that the python.el has made
>Georg> changes to the mode and explicitly taken them out of the
>Georg> copyright assignment for the FSF, so Emacs upstream can't include
>Georg> them.
>
>Georg>
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Am 03.02.2011 22:19, schrieb s...@pobox.com:
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> Barry> Wonderful.
>
> Barry> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel/135075
>
> Wasn't a lot of our heartburn alwhile ago precipitated by Dave Love? He of
> the massive-patch-which-must-not
Barry> Wonderful.
Barry> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel/135075
Wasn't a lot of our heartburn alwhile ago precipitated by Dave Love? He of
the massive-patch-which-must-not-be-divided? In fact, isn't he the original
author of the the python.el which *is* delivered with GNU Ema
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Am 03.02.2011 22:13, schrieb s...@pobox.com:
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> Georg> - From reading emacs-devel, it seems that the python.el has made
> Georg> changes to the mode and explicitly taken them out of the
> Georg> copyright assignment for the FSF, so Emacs
Georg> - From reading emacs-devel, it seems that the python.el has made
Georg> changes to the mode and explicitly taken them out of the
Georg> copyright assignment for the FSF, so Emacs upstream can't include
Georg> them.
Georg> So now we are at three different python modes fo
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Am 03.02.2011 22:09, schrieb Barry Warsaw:
> On Feb 03, 2011, at 09:23 PM, Georg Brandl wrote:
>
>>- From reading emacs-devel, it seems that the python.el has made
>>changes to the mode and explicitly taken them out of the copyright
>>assignment for t
On Feb 03, 2011, at 09:23 PM, Georg Brandl wrote:
>- From reading emacs-devel, it seems that the python.el has made
>changes to the mode and explicitly taken them out of the copyright
>assignment for the FSF, so Emacs upstream can't include them.
>
>So now we are at three different python modes fo
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- From reading emacs-devel, it seems that the python.el has made
changes to the mode and explicitly taken them out of the copyright
assignment for the FSF, so Emacs upstream can't include them.
So now we are at three different python modes for Emacs..
Hello Darren, thank you for your reply.
>Are you using the default Windows cmd.exe shell?
Yes, and you are right, the "python -i" tip works beautifully.
>Is Python on your path?
Yes it is. The loveshack fix posted on emacswiki solved the problem.
Gratefully,
Daniel
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Hi Daniel,
Daniel Wolff wrote:
> Hello, I am trying to get python to work with GNU emacs 22.1 on
>windows. I am trying to get the default python.el that comes with
emacs >to work.
I'm using Emacs 22.2.1 on windows with both the Windows python and
cygwin python.
> In particular, I am having
Hello, I am trying to get python to work with GNU emacs 22.1 on windows. I
am trying to get the default python.el that comes with emacs to work. In
particular, I am having difficulty actually starting python with emacs. Eg.
If I open a .py file and try to send it to the interpreter with C-c C-c, or
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