Am 03.02.2011 22:48, schrieb Aaron Culich:
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 1:13 PM,s...@pobox.com wrote:
Georg - From reading emacs-devel, it seems that the python.el has made
Georg changes to the mode and explicitly taken them out of the
Georg copyright assignment for the FSF, so Emacs upstream can't include
Georg them.
Georg So now we are at three different python modes for Emacs... :|
I'm not sure I understand. Someone forked python.el but won't allow the
changes to go back into the GNU version? Wouldn't that violate the GPL or
LGPL. Who did this?
Copyright assignment is an issue separate from the license itself. To the
extent that Dave's version is derived from the existing python.el then the
GNU GPL still applies to his version of python.el if he distributes it to
other people. He is the owner of the new code that he has written, so that
means if he finds someone that redistributes his code in a manner that is
violating the GNU GPL license, then he has the legal standing to pursue that
violation in court as the copyright holder. However, no one else has the
right to pursue it in court on his behalf; you could bring a case to court,
but it would be thrown out in just the same way as if you tried to bring a
lawsuit against someone illegally redistributing MS Word; you can't sue
someone for that, but Microsoft can if they chose to. The license, whether
free or proprietary, can only be enforced in the courts by the copyright
holder.
The issue of enforcement is one of reasons that the GNU project long ago
made a requirement that any code contributions accepted back into the code
base and officially branded as GNU software must also have any accompanying
copyright assignment.
There are other reasons, as well, including protection from patents so that
it would prevent someone from contributing source code to the GNU project on
one hand, and then on the other hand using patents against the same set of
code. You can read that in the language of one of the example copyright
assignment forms I've linked to below.
-Aaron
Here is some further reading:
An official statement about why they require copyright assignment:
http://www.gnu.org/licenses/why-assign.html
An example of the copyright assignment form
http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc/2002-09/msg00678.html
Excerpt from the above form intended to protect against harm from patents:
The Assigner hereby agrees that if it has or acquires hereafter any
patent or interface copyright or other intellectual property interest
dominating the program enhanced by the Work (or use of that program), such
dominating interest will not be used to undermine the effect of this
assignment, i.e. the Foundation and the general public will be licensed to
use, in that program and its derivative works, without royalty or
limitation, the subject matter of the dominating interest. This license
provision will be binding on the assignees of, or other successors to, the
dominating interest, as well as on the Assigner.
Hi Aaron,
saw you digged into this only after sending my short statement with
other post.
Sorry for that, would have been more explicit seeing the interest in the
matter.
It is wast one beside.
FSF thinks by making these assignment provisions,
--partly to the extent of the contributors, setting
them on risk rather than the FSF itself-- to do
something good.
Far from that: by raising the level of
specification already it provides uncertainty rather
than certainty.
Let me point at the risks already introduced by GPL in
this globalised world. Any conflict around would
endanger contributors, as being summoned before a
Bostonian court many of them will not be able to pay
the costs.
From this perspective GPL already bears a --rather
unspecified-- but potential menace and danger for all
using it.
Decided taking that risk, as you see. But I'm not
willing to take more.
As for copy-rights I'm protected by our domestic laws,
which promess even gratis assistance in certain cases
of conflicts. Why should I give up that protection by
signing up to US-courts?
Andreas
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