[Python-mode] python-mode.el 6.0 released

2011-07-23 Thread Andreas Röhler

Hi all,

proudly announcing the release of

python-mode.el 6.0 at

http://launchpad.net/python-mode/trunk/6.0/+download/python-mode-6.0.tgz

It comes with some new commands, as shown below for
`mark':

py-mark-statement
py-mark-block
py-mark-block-or-clause
py-mark-def
py-mark-def-or-class
py-mark-class
py-mark-clause

Resp. delete, copy, jump to beginning and end
of python-programming-expressions.

Also a couple of bugfixes are done based on a new core.

Thanks to Barry and all assisting.

Please file bug-reports at

https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-mode

Maybe have a look at next Milestone 6.0.1

https://launchpad.net/python-mode/+milestone/6.0.1

outlining intended developing.

Cheers,

Andreas

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Re: [Python-mode] python-mode.el 6.0 released

2011-07-23 Thread Glenn Linderman

On 7/23/2011 9:48 AM, Andreas Röhler wrote:

Hi all,

proudly announcing the release of

python-mode.el 6.0 at

http://launchpad.net/python-mode/trunk/6.0/+download/python-mode-6.0.tgz


Installation instructions?

Seems like the prior python-mode was just a single file, so pretty 
straightforward, unpack to d:\somewhere, and then in the emacs rc:


(add-to-list 'load-path d:/somewhere)
(autoload 'python-mode python-mode Python Mode. t)


The new one has lots of files, not sure what to do with them... anyway, 
did the same as above, and get the following error:


Error in menu-bar-update-hook: (void-function region-active-p)


Gnu Emacs 22.1.1 here.  I'd upgrade to a newer Emacs, but last time I 
tried, the better Unicode support was actually worse.  (Trying to open 
files with Unicode names, and trying to paste in Unicode text from 
AutoHotKey.)
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Re: [Python-mode] python-mode.el 6.0 released

2011-07-23 Thread Andreas Röhler

Am 23.07.2011 20:30, schrieb Glenn Linderman:

On 7/23/2011 9:48 AM, Andreas Röhler wrote:

Hi all,

proudly announcing the release of

python-mode.el 6.0 at

http://launchpad.net/python-mode/trunk/6.0/+download/python-mode-6.0.tgz


Installation instructions?


nothing changed in this respect. python-mode.el should work stand-alone 
as the previous one.




Seems like the prior python-mode was just a single file, so pretty
straightforward, unpack to d:\somewhere, and then in the emacs rc:

(add-to-list 'load-path d:/somewhere)
(autoload 'python-mode python-mode Python Mode. t)


make sure python-mode.el is earlier in path than python.el

there are some known hassles, because both modes calling them python-mode




The new one has lots of files, not sure what to do with them...



have a look into the README

 anyway,

did the same as above, and get the following error:




Error in menu-bar-update-hook: (void-function region-active-p)



thanks, will fix this

for the moment please use:

(unless (featurep 'xemacs)
  (defun region-active-p ()
and mark-active transient-mark-mode
 (not (eq (region-beginning) (region-end)
(and mark-active transient-mark-mode
 (not (eq (condition-case nil (region-beginning)(error nil))


 Gnu Emacs 22.1.1 here. I'd upgrade to a newer Emacs, but last time I

tried, the better Unicode support was actually worse. (Trying to open
files with Unicode names, and trying to paste in Unicode text from
AutoHotKey.)



Doesn't meet my experience. We are on Emacs23.3 which is the best Emacs 
ever IMHO.




Andreas




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Re: [Python-mode] python-mode.el 6.0 released

2011-07-23 Thread Felipe Reyes
On Jul 23, 2011 12:49 PM, Andreas Röhler andreas.roeh...@online.de
wrote:

 Hi all,

 proudly announcing the release of

 python-mode.el 6.0 at

 http://launchpad.net/python-mode/trunk/6.0/+download/python-mode-6.0.tgz

Congratulations, thanks to all the developers for giving us a new
python-mode version

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Re: [Python-mode] python-mode.el 6.0 released

2011-07-23 Thread Andreas Röhler




Seems like the prior python-mode was just a single file, so pretty
straightforward, unpack to d:\somewhere, and then in the emacs rc:

(add-to-list 'load-path d:/somewhere)
(autoload 'python-mode python-mode Python Mode. t)


make sure python-mode.el is earlier in path than python.el






Does add-to-list do that?


Good question. M-x describe-variable RET load-path should tell you.

As for the issues with python.el think the simplest solution in question 
is to load it directly.


(load MYPATH/python-mode.el)


 Or do I need something else?




python-mode.el should not need anything else.

[ ... ]


Doesn't meet my experience. We are on Emacs23.3 which is the best
Emacs ever IMHO.


Glad it is working for you, but it isn't for me. I offer the following
description of the problem, but of course it is not a problem with
python-mode. But it will serve to explain why my attempts to use 23.1
some time back and 23.3 today, have failed.

None of Emacs 22.1.1 through 23.3 will open files on Windows containing
certain characters in their names, partly because the name can't be
typed properly, but it doesn't even work to drag files with those names
into emacs. Probably an issue that is specific to Windows. Those same
characters produce some weird error packet is undefined when certain
characters are pasted into Emacs by Autohotkey, using at least
23.1-23.3. 22.1.1 doesn't produce the packet error, so is friendlier
to those characters. Probably another issue that is unique to Windows
and/or AutoHotKey interaction. I've tried reporting the packet error,
and eventually someone responded to the email, but I never figured out a
way to check on the status of a ticket, or figure out when or if it will
be included in a production version of emacs. As I use AutoHotKey macros
to generate non-ASCII symbols using an English keyboard, it is critical
to my ability to use Unicode characters, and not being able to enter
them using emacs makes such versions of emacs useless to me. I have
never learned Emacs lisp, which is usually not a major problem in simply
using Emacs, and I can copy/paste helpful tricks from various web
sites for customization. But this is beyond my capabilities to analyze,
so I may be stuck on emacs 22.1.1 until someone can fix the problem or
until I have to give up emacs because 22.1.1 no longer works on some
future version of Windows.



Please write a bug report. Also posting on the emacs-help might be useful.

Andreas
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Re: [Python-mode] python-mode.el 6.0 released

2011-07-23 Thread Glenn Linderman

On 7/23/2011 1:23 PM, Andreas Röhler wrote:




Seems like the prior python-mode was just a single file, so pretty
straightforward, unpack to d:\somewhere, and then in the emacs rc:

(add-to-list 'load-path d:/somewhere)
(autoload 'python-mode python-mode Python Mode. t)


make sure python-mode.el is earlier in path than python.el






Does add-to-list do that?


Good question. M-x describe-variable RET load-path should tell you.

As for the issues with python.el think the simplest solution in 
question is to load it directly.


(load MYPATH/python-mode.el)


 Or do I need something else?




python-mode.el should not need anything else.



Thanks.  Seems add-to-list puts it in the front.  Guess there is no harm 
in having the rest sit there unused...




[ ... ]


Doesn't meet my experience. We are on Emacs23.3 which is the best
Emacs ever IMHO.


Glad it is working for you, but it isn't for me. I offer the following
description of the problem, but of course it is not a problem with
python-mode. But it will serve to explain why my attempts to use 23.1
some time back and 23.3 today, have failed.

None of Emacs 22.1.1 through 23.3 will open files on Windows containing
certain characters in their names, partly because the name can't be
typed properly, but it doesn't even work to drag files with those names
into emacs. Probably an issue that is specific to Windows. Those same
characters produce some weird error packet is undefined when certain
characters are pasted into Emacs by Autohotkey, using at least
23.1-23.3. 22.1.1 doesn't produce the packet error, so is friendlier
to those characters. Probably another issue that is unique to Windows
and/or AutoHotKey interaction. I've tried reporting the packet error,
and eventually someone responded to the email, but I never figured out a
way to check on the status of a ticket, or figure out when or if it will
be included in a production version of emacs. As I use AutoHotKey macros
to generate non-ASCII symbols using an English keyboard, it is critical
to my ability to use Unicode characters, and not being able to enter
them using emacs makes such versions of emacs useless to me. I have
never learned Emacs lisp, which is usually not a major problem in simply
using Emacs, and I can copy/paste helpful tricks from various web
sites for customization. But this is beyond my capabilities to analyze,
so I may be stuck on emacs 22.1.1 until someone can fix the problem or
until I have to give up emacs because 22.1.1 no longer works on some
future version of Windows.



Please write a bug report. Also posting on the emacs-help might be 
useful.


Thanks for your suggestions here, I know it is out of scope for 
python-mode.  But reporting the bug in emacs 3 years ago, and the 
deficiencies of that process from a user perspective, do not encourage 
following the process again... I was hoping there might be some other 
interface to the process that I overlooked, or which augments the 
process whose documentation I was able to find, and, with great effort, 
follow.


So, I did write a bug report email for this exact issue, for emacs 23.1, 
3 years ago.  But I have no way to check its status.  Is there a 
different interface?  The bug report email stuff doesn't work very well 
on Windows, I had to generate it to a file, and then send the file (or 
something weird, it has been 3 years since I reported it first, and I've 
maybe forgotten the details).  Where is the best way to send the bug 
report?  That way didn't seem to produce much response, and certainly 
not a response that I can monitor for status in any way and the 
problem still exists 3 years later.  Pretty sad.


What is the emacs-help and how does one post on it?  Is that a 
newsgroup, an emacs feature, or a web site, or something else?


I did spend some time today upgrading my AutoHotKey to the latest 
version, but it produces the same effect in emacs 23.3 as the 3-year-old 
version I was using had produced in emacs 23.1 when I tested it... 
packet is undefined.  But that packet seems to work for every 
other program I use the AutoHotKey features with... so it (still) seems 
more likely to be an Emacs issue than an AutoHotKey issue.



Andreas


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