[Python-modules-team] Bug#771794: pip silently removes/updates system provided python packages

2014-12-03 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Dec 02, 2014, at 10:38 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: Speaking only for myself, I think that sounds reasonable. It's well established I believe in Debian Python usage that if a user installs packages in /usr/local and break their system, they are on their own, so I'm not particularly worried

[Python-modules-team] Bug#771794: pip silently removes/updates system provided python packages

2014-12-02 Thread Matthias Klose
Package: python-pip Version: 1.5.6-3 Severity: serious Tags: sid jessie pip currently silently removes/updates system provided python packages when used on the system python. This is only seen when a user calls pip with administrator rights, but it makes debian python packages somehow

[Python-modules-team] Bug#771794: pip silently removes/updates system provided python packages

2014-12-02 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, December 02, 2014 12:37:40 PM Donald Stufft wrote: On Dec 2, 2014, at 12:25 PM, Daniel Kahn Gillmor d...@fifthhorseman.net wrote: On 12/02/2014 11:51 AM, Donald Stufft wrote: I'd very much prefer it if you didn't do this. This *is* going to break things for people and it's

[Python-modules-team] Bug#771794: pip silently removes/updates system provided python packages

2014-12-02 Thread Donald Stufft
I'm on my phone so forgive my formatting. 4, 3, 2 I think in order of best to worst in my opinion. I have another question. If we fix this in the upcoming pip 6 release what is the chances of getting an exception for pip 6 in the freeze? If I can solve the problem in pip proper and keep the

[Python-modules-team] Bug#771794: pip silently removes/updates system provided python packages

2014-12-02 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, December 02, 2014 04:15:05 PM Donald Stufft wrote: ... I have another question. If we fix this in the upcoming pip 6 release what is the chances of getting an exception for pip 6 in the freeze? If I can solve the problem in pip proper and keep the delta between different platforms

[Python-modules-team] Bug#771794: pip silently removes/updates system provided python packages

2014-12-02 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, December 02, 2014 04:54:37 PM Donald Stufft wrote: On Dec 2, 2014, at 4:47 PM, Scott Kitterman deb...@kitterman.com wrote: On Tuesday, December 02, 2014 04:15:05 PM Donald Stufft wrote: ... I have another question. If we fix this in the upcoming pip 6 release what is

[Python-modules-team] Bug#771794: pip silently removes/updates system provided python packages

2014-12-02 Thread Donald Stufft
On Dec 2, 2014, at 5:03 PM, Scott Kitterman deb...@kitterman.com wrote: On Tuesday, December 02, 2014 04:54:37 PM Donald Stufft wrote: On Dec 2, 2014, at 4:47 PM, Scott Kitterman deb...@kitterman.com wrote: On Tuesday, December 02, 2014 04:15:05 PM Donald Stufft wrote: ... I have

[Python-modules-team] Bug#771794: pip silently removes/updates system provided python packages

2014-12-02 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, December 02, 2014 05:17:48 PM Donald Stufft wrote: On Dec 2, 2014, at 5:03 PM, Scott Kitterman deb...@kitterman.com wrote: On Tuesday, December 02, 2014 04:54:37 PM Donald Stufft wrote: On Dec 2, 2014, at 4:47 PM, Scott Kitterman deb...@kitterman.com wrote: On Tuesday,

[Python-modules-team] Bug#771794: pip silently removes/updates system provided python packages

2014-12-02 Thread Donald Stufft
On Dec 2, 2014, at 6:32 PM, Scott Kitterman deb...@kitterman.com wrote: Assuming the maintainer doesn't decide to downgrade the bug (which I think is unlikely and a number of people would object to, so I think we can ignore it as a possibility), the decision to ignore the bug for Jessie

[Python-modules-team] Bug#771794: pip silently removes/updates system provided python packages

2014-12-02 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, December 02, 2014 19:28:20 Donald Stufft wrote: On Dec 2, 2014, at 6:32 PM, Scott Kitterman deb...@kitterman.com wrote: Assuming the maintainer doesn't decide to downgrade the bug (which I think is unlikely and a number of people would object to, so I think we can ignore it