Hi,
This may seem stupid, but I can't find any version of
python that is not a document when downloaded. Please
send me a link.
John Mandrake.
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> > How about "Python 2.4"? Getting rid of the hyphen would also help
> > with the visual cognition.
>
> This sounds fine.
Great. Then I can put a pointer in the downloads page.
Bill
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On Feb 13, 2006, at 6:44 PM, Bill Janssen wrote:
>>> At the moment, I'd suggest changing the name of this folder to just
>>> "Python", and putting just "IDLE" and the "Tools" subfolder in it.
>>
>> We will be removing the irrelevant apps (PythonIDE, PackageManager).
>> The version number is going
On Feb 13, 2006, at 10:11 AM, Ronald Oussoren wrote:
>
> On 13-feb-2006, at 1:37, Bob Ippolito wrote:
>
>> On Feb 12, 2006, at 1:19 PM, Ronald Oussoren wrote:
>>
>>> 8. The Python documentation is no longer installed as a help book.
>>
>> I wonder how hard this is to add to IDLE, or if we can jus
> > At the moment, I'd suggest changing the name of this folder to just
> > "Python", and putting just "IDLE" and the "Tools" subfolder in it.
>
> We will be removing the irrelevant apps (PythonIDE, PackageManager).
> The version number is going to stay. I'm ambivalent as to whether it
> sho
Hi Ronald,
On Feb 13, 2006, at 1:28 PM, Ronald Oussoren wrote:
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> I haven't seen the icon, is it online somewhere? BTW. I do use
> wxPython at work, it is the easiest way to develop windows GUI's
> without leaving the comforts of my mac.
If you're running Tiger, go to /Developer/Examp
On Feb 13, 2006, at 6:10 PM, Bill Janssen wrote:
>> 2. The IDLE app is bit hard to find, being in
>> /Applications/MacPython-2.4/, along with a bunch of other
>> (dead or
>> dying?) apps, like PythonIDE and PackageManager.
>
> At the moment, I'd suggest changing the name of this folder
On Feb 13, 2006, at 5:45 PM, Bill Janssen wrote:
> I just downloaded and ran the two recommended 10.4 Python installers.
> I noticed two things:
>
> 1. The readme for the 2.4.1 installer says it's for Mac OS X 10.3.
> It should say 10.3 and 10.4.
It should, but it was built before 10.4 was
> 2. The IDLE app is bit hard to find, being in
> /Applications/MacPython-2.4/, along with a bunch of other (dead or
> dying?) apps, like PythonIDE and PackageManager.
At the moment, I'd suggest changing the name of this folder to just
"Python", and putting just "IDLE" and the "Tools" sub
I just downloaded and ran the two recommended 10.4 Python installers.
I noticed two things:
1. The readme for the 2.4.1 installer says it's for Mac OS X 10.3.
It should say 10.3 and 10.4.
2. The IDLE app is bit hard to find, being in
/Applications/MacPython-2.4/, along with a bunch of o
On Feb 13, 2006, at 4:55 PM, Charles Hartman wrote:
> I think this looks good and smooth. Thanks for doing this work.
>
> The two big topics -- topics that loomed large for me when I started
> trying to figure out whether I wanted to use Python on the Mac --
> aren't really addressed yet: alternat
On Feb 13, 2006, at 4:52 PM, Daniel Lord wrote:On Feb 13, 2006, at 3:03 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:1. Monty Python related (to avoid the annoying offensive imagery arguments) Monty Python is copyrighted work. I would advise keeping a careful distance from anything commercially recognizable unless
On Feb 13, 2006, at 7:52 PM, Daniel Lord wrote:
> Frankly, the language is named after a snake
Nope. See the second paragraph of Guido's forward to "Programming
Python":
http://www.python.org/doc/essays/foreword.html
-- Ed Leafe
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> If these doesn't go on the first page -- I guess the consensus may be
> against this -- then shouldn't they go in the FAQ? I see wxPython
> mentioned there, very much in passing, and with a virtual deprecation
> in the same sentence, and nothing about IDEs, unless my eyes just
> stumbled
I think this looks good and smooth. Thanks for doing this work.
The two big topics -- topics that loomed large for me when I started
trying to figure out whether I wanted to use Python on the Mac --
aren't really addressed yet: alternative IDEs (Wing, SPE, PyOXIDE if
it were working, etc) an
On Feb 13, 2006, at 3:03 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:1. Monty Python related (to avoid the annoying offensive imagery arguments) Monty Python is copyrighted work. I would advise keeping a careful distance from anything commercially recognizable unless you put aside a significant settlement fund
I've updated my strawman page at
http://bill.janssen.org/mac/new-macpython-page.html.
This is intended to replace the page currently at
http://www.python.org/download/download_mac.html.
I think this is about as good as we're going to get, for the moment.
It points out to experienced Mac developer
I've just been talking with our group's artist about it. He's very
talented.
We've got a few good ideas -- he's going to noodle around tonight and
I'll probably be able to post a couple of images tomorrow.
Kent
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On Feb 13, 2006, at 2:12 PM, Trent Mick wrote:
>> On Feb 13, 2006, at 10:11 AM, Ronald Oussoren wrote:
>>
>>> I just remembered something else that needs to be done some time:
>>> create better icons, it's time to leave the 10 ton weight behind
>>> (or at the very least the current rendition of i
> On Feb 13, 2006, at 10:11 AM, Ronald Oussoren wrote:
>
> > I just remembered something else that needs to be done some time:
> > create better icons, it's time to leave the 10 ton weight behind
> > (or at the very least the current rendition of it). I won't do this
> > though, given my ski
On 13-feb-2006, at 20:14, Kevin Ollivier wrote:
Hi Ronald,
On Feb 13, 2006, at 10:28 AM, Ronald Oussoren wrote:
On 13-feb-2006, at 19:17, Bob Ippolito wrote:
On Feb 13, 2006, at 10:11 AM, Ronald Oussoren wrote:
On 13-feb-2006, at 1:37, Bob Ippolito wrote:
wonder how hard this is to a
here's a crude draft of a concept, especially for those disliking
snakes:
http://univmail.cis.mcmaster.ca/~vinogri/mp/logopage.html
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On Feb 13, 2006, at 11:14 AM, Kevin Ollivier wrote:
> Hi Ronald,
>
> On Feb 13, 2006, at 10:28 AM, Ronald Oussoren wrote:
>
>>
>> On 13-feb-2006, at 19:17, Bob Ippolito wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 13, 2006, at 10:11 AM, Ronald Oussoren wrote:
>>>
On 13-feb-2006, at 1:37, Bob Ippolito wrote
> We need to at least change the [IDLE] default key bindings to Mac OS
> rather than Windows... we also want to make sure that it starts a
> pythonw-capable interpreter among other little details.
There's a list at
http://rlai.cs.ualberta.ca/RLAI/RLsoftware/PythonLinks.html#IDLE.
Bill
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Hi Ronald,
On Feb 13, 2006, at 10:28 AM, Ronald Oussoren wrote:
>
> On 13-feb-2006, at 19:17, Bob Ippolito wrote:
>
>>
>> On Feb 13, 2006, at 10:11 AM, Ronald Oussoren wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On 13-feb-2006, at 1:37, Bob Ippolito wrote:
>>>
wonder how hard this is to add to IDLE, or if we can just
On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 09:06:06AM -0800, Christopher Barker wrote:
> Bill Janssen wrote:
> > You missed the first part of my message, I think. The system version
> > would be installed under /usr/libexec/, or some such place, not under
> > /usr/bin/.
>
> That is a good idea, but how do we get Ap
On Feb 13, 2006, at 10:46 AM, Christopher Barker wrote:
> Ronald Oussoren wrote:
>> I remember that. Is that icon still available?
>
> Isn't it used in the Wiki? (the wiki seems to be down at the moment)
Should work now.
-bob
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On Feb 13, 2006, at 10:28 AM, Ronald Oussoren wrote:
>
> On 13-feb-2006, at 19:17, Bob Ippolito wrote:
>
>>
>> On Feb 13, 2006, at 10:11 AM, Ronald Oussoren wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On 13-feb-2006, at 1:37, Bob Ippolito wrote:
>>>
wonder how hard this is to add to IDLE, or if we can just link
>>>
Ronald Oussoren wrote:
> I remember that. Is that icon still available?
Isn't it used in the Wiki? (the wiki seems to be down at the moment)
> That icon was a lot
> better than what we have now, if anyone complains about the realism
> they can come up with another icon :-).
And I second that:
On 13-feb-2006, at 19:17, Bob Ippolito wrote:
On Feb 13, 2006, at 10:11 AM, Ronald Oussoren wrote:
On 13-feb-2006, at 1:37, Bob Ippolito wrote:
wonder how hard this is to add to IDLE, or if we can just link to
HTML docs. I'm not personally a big fan of Help Book anyway.
I just read th
On Feb 13, 2006, at 10:11 AM, Ronald Oussoren wrote:
>
> On 13-feb-2006, at 1:37, Bob Ippolito wrote:
>
>> wonder how hard this is to add to IDLE, or if we can just link to
>> HTML docs. I'm not personally a big fan of Help Book anyway.
>
> I just read the source for pydoc, we could install th
On 13-feb-2006, at 1:37, Bob Ippolito wrote:
On Feb 12, 2006, at 1:19 PM, Ronald Oussoren wrote:
The attached patch replaces the script in Mac/OSX/Dist by a python
script that builds a "batteries included" universal binary. The
attached background.jpg should be placed in Mac/OSX/Dist/resou
Bill Janssen wrote:
> You missed the first part of my message, I think. The system version
> would be installed under /usr/libexec/, or some such place, not under
> /usr/bin/.
That is a good idea, but how do we get Apple to do it?
> That would leave /usr/bin free for the MacPython gang to
> ins
Bob Ippolito wrote:
> I believe there's a debugger in IDLE, and the one in Wing IDE is
> pretty good (but that's a commercial X11 app). Normally I just use
> pdb, which is strictly console based.
If you have wxPython, there is also WinPdb: SPE comes bundled with it,
and it can be used on its
Standard readline keys mostly.. this should be all you need:
http://cnswww.cns.cwru.edu/~chet/readline/rluserman.html
http://docs.python.org/dev/tut/node15.html
-bob
On Feb 13, 2006, at 6:10 AM, Ken Brooks wrote:
> Finally choosing to find the time, I installed MacPython 2.4.1.
> But now I ne
On Feb 13, 2006, at 8:44 AM, Ken Brooks wrote:
> Same issue, different topic: Google "macpython debugger" reveals
> many commentators who revel in the fact that it has one, and no
> info on how to invoke it. MacPython help has no such topic,
> either. Where is it documented?
It's not do
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Ken Brooks wrote:
> Same issue, different topic: Google "macpython debugger" reveals many
> commentators who revel in the fact that it has one, and no info on how to
> invoke it. MacPython help has no such topic, either. Where is it documented?
>
Same issue, different topic: Google "macpython debugger" reveals many
commentators who revel in the fact that it has one, and no info on how to
invoke it. MacPython help has no such topic, either. Where is it documented?
Ken Brooks
Sparkling Light Software
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Finally choosing to find the time, I installed MacPython 2.4.1. But now I need
documentation, and Google was not helpful. What keystrokes have new meanings
in the MacPython interactive window as a result of having readline?
Ken
At 9:55 AM -0800 1/17/06, Christopher Barker wrote:
>Ken Brooks w
I have that piece of code:
while 1:
a=raw_input("Press a key to continue")
I'd like to change the last line, I don't want to control a key press
if not I want to control a button of the form
My question is if somthing exists to control the push button event.
See you. Peter.
Markus wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Somewhere deep in the latest discussion I read a remark by Bob that
> he would not recommend the use of Finks python (there also was
> another that he didn't like Debian so that may explain it :)
>
> I came from Debian to OS X and nearly the first thing I did was to
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