Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] readline: where and how installed?

2006-04-12 Thread Bill Janssen
> Just for fun, what's the point of the execve? Just to choose the > right Python executable? Never mind, I found it on Bob's blog. It's to get around the requirement to have an app bundle if you want to draw on the screen, apparently. Bill ___ Python

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] readline: where and how installed?

2006-04-12 Thread Bill Janssen
> All I'm saying is that it might be a good idea to put a few lines in > the README about the execve deal, and its implications for things > like debugging. Because otherwise it could get pretty frustrating for > some folk pretty fast. I agree. This seems unnecessarily obscure. Just for fu

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] readline: where and how installed?

2006-04-12 Thread Zachary Pincus
Well, not to keep this thread going on any more than necessary -- though we do still need to hear from Ronald about what version of readline was used for the Universal MacPython -- but I have a comment. > I would think that most gdb users already know how to cross an > execve, but maybe I'm

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] readline: where and how installed?

2006-04-12 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Apr 12, 2006, at 3:20 PM, Zachary Pincus wrote: >>> Now, in regards to the GDB issue: can anyone with the latest >>> developer tools who also has the Universal Python build installed >>> try >>> to run python under gdb? (I have a different install of python 2.4.3 >>> that I don't want to nuk

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] readline: where and how installed?

2006-04-12 Thread Zachary Pincus
>> Now, in regards to the GDB issue: can anyone with the latest >> developer tools who also has the Universal Python build installed try >> to run python under gdb? (I have a different install of python 2.4.3 >> that I don't want to nuke by installing the universal build just to >> test this; other

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] readline: where and how installed?

2006-04-12 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Apr 12, 2006, at 2:40 PM, Zachary Pincus wrote: >>> This is for Bob Ippolito - >> >> Well it's really for Ronald, I didn't build it. I have no idea. > > Sorry! Hopefully Ronald will let us know what version of readline he > used. > > Now, in regards to the GDB issue: can anyone with the lates

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] readline: where and how installed?

2006-04-12 Thread Michael Broe
OK so all my faffing about with readline was not making one whit of difference :) And now I know why... On Apr 12, 2006, at 5:09 PM, Bob Ippolito wrote: > > Are you running 10.3.9 by chance? It might be an incompatibility > there, we don't test very thoroughly on anything but 10.4.x due to

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] readline: where and how installed?

2006-04-12 Thread Zachary Pincus
>> This is for Bob Ippolito - > > Well it's really for Ronald, I didn't build it. I have no idea. Sorry! Hopefully Ronald will let us know what version of readline he used. Now, in regards to the GDB issue: can anyone with the latest developer tools who also has the Universal Python build in

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] readline: where and how installed?

2006-04-12 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Apr 12, 2006, at 2:19 PM, Zachary Pincus wrote: > This is for Bob Ippolito - Well it's really for Ronald, I didn't build it. I have no idea. > What version of readline comes with the Universal MacPython 2.4.3 > release? And is it statically-linked, or is there a readline dylib > somewhere i

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] readline: where and how installed?

2006-04-12 Thread Zachary Pincus
This is for Bob Ippolito - What version of readline comes with the Universal MacPython 2.4.3 release? And is it statically-linked, or is there a readline dylib somewhere in the python framework? I ask because Michael Broe reported some problems (see below) with IPython that I had tracked do

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] readline: where and how installed?

2006-04-12 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Apr 12, 2006, at 1:57 PM, Michael Broe wrote: > I'm having an issue using IPython that may be related to readline, > which I am pursuing on the IPython mailing list. > > I had my self-built version of readline 5.1 installed in /usr/local/ > include, and I patched and reinstalled it, which was

[Pythonmac-SIG] readline: where and how installed?

2006-04-12 Thread Michael Broe
I'm having an issue using IPython that may be related to readline, which I am pursuing on the IPython mailing list. I had my self-built version of readline 5.1 installed in /usr/local/ include, and I patched and reinstalled it, which was one theory for fixing the problem, but no go. I'm just

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] wxPython -- some disappointment using it.

2006-04-12 Thread Alex Tweedly
Louis Pecora wrote: > Alex Tweedly wrote: > >> >> > > Just looked it over. Seems like the right level for what I do. But > is it still under development? Looked stagnent to me. It's under development - 0.8.2 will be out any day now, and contains a fair number of enhancements, including so

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] wxPython -- some disappointment using it.

2006-04-12 Thread Louis Pecora
Alex Tweedly wrote: > Louis Pecora wrote: > > >> Thanks for the link and the hint on boa. I've heard of the latter, but >> >> never looked into it. I really do numerical calcs, but occasionally >> need a simple GUI dialog or open a window to plot in (very simple), but >> who knows, boa might

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] wxPython -- some disappointment using it.

2006-04-12 Thread Alex Tweedly
Louis Pecora wrote: > Thanks for the link and the hint on boa. I've heard of the latter, but > >never looked into it. I really do numerical calcs, but occasionally >need a simple GUI dialog or open a window to plot in (very simple), but >who knows, boa might be the ticket. Thanks, again. > >

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] wxPython -- some disappointment using it.

2006-04-12 Thread Louis Pecora
Stewart Midwinter wrote: > > thank you Charles, thank you Saggau (and thank you Daniel for posing > the question). I'm also new to wxPython, though I've been working > with Wax (a more pythonic layer on top of wxPython) for some months > now), and I also was having a devil of a time trying to deb

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] wxPython -- some disappointment using it.

2006-04-12 Thread Stewart Midwinter
> > From: Charles Hartman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > If I recall correctly, this syndrome is covered in the book. It > happens because the diagnostic's going to a window that closes when > the app does. Look up wx.App(redirect=True) in the index -- you can > write the diagnostic to a file and examine

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] wxPython -- some disappointment using it.

2006-04-12 Thread Charles Hartman
It occurs to me that if you added an OnExit() handler to your app -- any app that's giving quit-too-soon trouble. The handler could simply put up a wx.MessageBox, which gets an OK from the user. This would pause the app on the way out, and therefore permit the normal app output window (with

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] wxPython -- some disappointment using it.

2006-04-12 Thread Louis Pecora
Mark Thalman wrote: > Louis, > > If you don't need cross-platform compatibility, why not use EasyDialogs? > > http://python.org/doc/2.4.1/mac/module-EasyDialogs.html > Yes, I've messed with them a little. Really very nice ... and tempting. I'm on the fence. I got this wxPython book and it look

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] wxPython -- some disappointment using it.

2006-04-12 Thread Louis Pecora
Kevin Ollivier wrote: > Hi Louis, > > On Apr 11, 2006, at 2:43 PM, Louis Pecora wrote: > >> I bought the wxPython in Action book and started trying the simple >> examples in Chap. 1. One thing I have run into is rather >> disappointing. Many errors (e.g. I typed return true, instead of return >>

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] wxPython -- some disappointment using it.

2006-04-12 Thread Louis Pecora
Saggau wrote: > Charles is right: > http://www.wxpython.org/docs/api/wx.App-class.html > > Have you looked at boa-constructor on sourceforge? > boa-constructor.sourceforge.net > > I used to use it when I was a bigger-than-I-am-now linux geek and > found it

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] wxPython -- some disappointment using it.

2006-04-12 Thread Charles Hartman
(sorry -- I meant to post this to the list)Begin forwarded message:From: Charles Hartman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: April 12, 2006 7:23:20 AM EDTTo: Louis Pecora <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] wxPython -- some disappointment using it. For some notes on errata in the book, and some he