Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Building 32-bit on Snow Leopard with tkinter/IDLE (was: Recommended Tcl/Tk with Py-2.6.x)

2010-03-10 Thread Tom Loredo
> If you are willing to install a new Tcl/Tk, you can have success but > you have to be careful. Both ActiveTcl 8.4 and 8.5 (the current > version) will produce a working IDLE. Both of these are only 32-bit > in the free versions, so you will have to do some undocumented installation > tricker

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Building 32-bit on Snow Leopard with tkinter/IDLE (was: Recommended Tcl/Tk with Py-2.6.x)

2010-03-10 Thread Tom Loredo
Ned- No need to apologize; I realize the Python developers are juggling many balls right now! But I'll apologize---for always replying in a way that starts yet another thread. I reply to emails or web archive versions of the posts, and as far as I can tell, there is no way to respond in a mann

[Pythonmac-SIG] Building 32-bit on Snow Leopard with tkinter/IDLE (was: Recommended Tcl/Tk with Py-2.6.x)

2010-03-07 Thread Tom Loredo
Quoting Ronald Oussoren : > > If we *deploy* for 10.4 or 10.5 > > while building on Snow Leopard, can we get a 32-bit intel executable > > via a universal ppc/i386 build? > > configure --enable-framework --enable-universalsdk > make > make install > > This builds a framework install that contai

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Recommended Tcl/Tk with Py-2.6.x?

2010-03-05 Thread Tom Loredo
To follow up on my own post: > I looked in Apple's Tcl and Tk frameworks, and the only libraries > I find there appear to be *static* libraries (.a files that "file" indicates > are ar archives). What I didn't realize is that the "Tcl" and "Tk" files in the frameworks are 3-way universal dynamic

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Recommended Tcl/Tk with Py-2.6.x?

2010-03-04 Thread Tom Loredo
Ned wrote: > Ronald has suggested modifying Tkinter and the installer build > to allow one Python instance to dynamically link with either 8.4 or 8.5, > depending on what is available but I don't think anyone has found time > to work on that. Contributions welcome! I looked in Apple's Tcl an

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Recommended Tcl/Tk with Py-2.6.x? (was: Test failure...)

2010-03-04 Thread Tom Loredo
Chris wrote: > > In the past I've also used wxpython for matplotlib, but the wxpython > > situation with Snow Leopard seems even more confusing than the tkinter > > situation! > > How so? Difficult, maybe, but it shouldn't be confusing: > > wxPython is 32 bit, you need to use it with 32 bit Pyt

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Recommended Tcl/Tk with Py-2.6.x? (was: Test failure...)

2010-03-04 Thread Tom Loredo
Ned wrote: > The easy way to avoid nearly all the hassle, at the moment, is to stick > with 32-bit and build Python on 10.5 - not a good long term solution. I hesitate to bring this up for 2.6.5 because I know you guys are swamped, but... Can you clarify how those of us on Snow Leopard can bu

[Pythonmac-SIG] Recommended Tcl/Tk with Py-2.6.x? (was: Test failure...)

2010-03-02 Thread Tom Loredo
Ned- Thanks for the quick attention and detective work about the tcl-related bug in 2.6.5. I wouldn't have known how to track it down! Regarding your comment: > I haven't been building and testing as much with 10.6's > built-in Tk 8.5 because it has been so problematic with IDLE. I did > v

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Test failure (crash?) with Py-2.6.5rc1 on OS 10.6.2

2010-03-02 Thread Tom Loredo
Hi Ned- > Did you try running it after a make install and while not running as > root? Trying to run processes that require a window manager connection > is picky. I think you'll find that Tkinter and IDLE actually run OK > once installed. I'm not sure what you mean by "running as root" (wh

[Pythonmac-SIG] Other test failures with Py-2.6.5rc1 on OS 10.6.2

2010-03-02 Thread Tom Loredo
I should have looked at the whole test output before my previous post; there are other test failures, or at least "unexpected output." The full output, up to the crash(?), is at this pastie: http://www.pastie.org/850452 The troublesome parts are excerpted in part below. -Tom test_asynchat te

[Pythonmac-SIG] Test failure (crash?) with Py-2.6.5rc1 on OS 10.6.2

2010-03-02 Thread Tom Loredo
I've just built Py-2.6.5rc1 on Snow Leopard, configured to build an intel-only universal framework, as follows: export MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET=10.6 time ./configure --prefix=/usr/local/tmp --enable-framework --enable-universalsdk=/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.6.sdk --with- universal-archs=intel "ma

[Pythonmac-SIG] Problems installing 32-bit Py-2.6.4 framework on 10.6.2

2010-02-21 Thread Tom Loredo
Hi folks, I've been attempting to install a 32-bit version of Python-2.6.4 on Snow Leopard 10.6.2. I'd like to install it from source (a 32-bit binary built for 10.3+ is at Python.org). Unfortunately, I haven't yet figured out a way to get an accessible 32-bit interpreter built on Snow Leopard.

[Pythonmac-SIG] Problems installing Python-2.7a3 on 10.6.2

2010-02-21 Thread Tom Loredo
Hi folks- I've tried installing an intel framework universal build of Py-2.7a3 on Snow Leopard 10.6.2 (i.e., i386 + x86_64). I used this configure: ./configure --prefix=/usr/local/tmp --enable-framework --with-framework-name=PythonAlpha --enable-universalsdk=/ -- with-universal-archs=intel

[Pythonmac-SIG] gcc/fortran compilers for building extensions with Tiger/MacPython

2006-10-11 Thread Tom Loredo
Hi folks, I've just upgraded my G4 (PPC) from Pather to Tiger, and just installed MacPython. I now need to build a slew of numerical extensions. I'm building them from source (I have lots of custom extensions to build from source in any case). I see the binaries available for Tiger are built wi

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] libpython2.4 for OS X?

2006-04-07 Thread Tom Loredo
Quoting Bob Ippolito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Thanks for the input, Bob. > Frameworks are dynamic libraries (technically MH_DYLIB on OS X), but > they do not follow the same naming scheme, so they're not going to > get picked up by a typical dumb configure-search. > > If you wanted, you could ma

[Pythonmac-SIG] libpython2.4 for OS X?

2006-04-07 Thread Tom Loredo
urking somewhere that I'm overlooking? If one is not in MacPython, is there a good reason (i.e., a reason it wouldn't be useful), or is there a way we can build one? He is using MacPython; I'm using ActivePython; we can't find th

[Pythonmac-SIG] Matplotlib give bus error (10.3.9)

2006-03-22 Thread Tom Loredo
pylab. I am stumped as to what to try next. I've copied verbose output below; I hope someone can offer us some clues. Yes, I'm also asking about this on the mpl list. Thanks, Tom Loredo $ pythonw simple_plot.py --verbose-debug-annoying matplotlib data path /Library/Frameworks/Python.fr

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Eclipse + PyDev

2005-06-27 Thread Tom Loredo
e also tried Eclispe+TruStudio Foundation. While TruStudio looks promising, they have a ways to go (their editor plugin doesn't even correctly handle indentation). It's a 1.0 release, but I'd say that designation is premature. But it's probably worth keeping an eye on

{Spam?} Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Compiling matplotlib on OS-X

2005-02-07 Thread Tom Loredo
Bob wrote: > Anyway, PJE and I are working on the Next Big Thing in Python packages > that will make > this problem go away at some point. Hopefully by March ;) This is good news (though for the PEAK uninitiated like myself the web page is