Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-25 Thread has
Ronald Oussoren wrote: >>OK, so given this behaviour, I retract my earlier >>reccomendation. If the "Python.app" icon will be >>staying in the dock while the app runs (cases 2, 3), >>I'm -1 on the rocket, and +1 on the "applet" icon >>we're not using yet. > >You have some point there. I'm against

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-25 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 25-apr-2006, at 19:09, Brendan Simons wrote: OK, I obviously need to learn a little about the launch sequence of mac python files. Here's what I've discovered: 1) Double clicking a terminal-based python script from finder launches PythonLauncher (soon to be a rocket icon), then the termina

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-25 Thread Brendan Simons
OK, I obviously need to learn a little about the launch sequence of mac python files. Here's what I've discovered: 1) Double clicking a terminal-based python script from finder launches PythonLauncher (soon to be a rocket icon), then the terminal. 2) Running a wx.python script from TextWrangler

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-25 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 25-apr-2006, at 15:15, Brendan Simons wrote: Oh, I thought that's what the Python Launcher did. A bouncing rocket in the dock is a pretty good cue that Python is launching something. So I'm +1 on using the current Python Launcher icon If not that then (is the launcher actually used other

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-25 Thread Brendan Simons
logo. Brendan -- Brendan Simons On 25-Apr-06, at 5:33 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >From: has <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: April 25, 2006 4:45:46 AM EDT (CA) >To: pythonmac-sig@python.org >Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup > >

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-25 Thread has
One last thing: looking at the shiny new icon set I realised there wasn't a specific icon done for Python.app, which gets launched whenever Python needs a Window Manager connection. (Can't imagine who forgot to put that on the list...) However, with both BB and py2app using the same icons the 'a

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-24 Thread has
Ronald Oussoren wrote: >>+1, I like it! > >Same here. Let's stop here. Agree. Great work. Time to hit the presses. :) has -- http://freespace.virgin.net/hamish.sanderson/ ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/m

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-24 Thread Charles Hartman
It's amazing what a nice, shiny, new icon can do for morale. I'm breathing better already. (And I'm not even being ironic.) That's a sixteen-ton weight off my chest. Charles Hartman On Apr 24, 2006, at 1:18 AM, Jacob Rus wrote: > Zachery Bir wrote: >> Bob Ippolito wrote: >>> +1, I like it!

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-24 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 24-apr-2006, at 3:37, Bob Ippolito wrote: > > On Apr 23, 2006, at 5:20 PM, Jacob Rus wrote: > >> Donovan Preston wrote: >>> What about something more like the Help Indexer in /Developer/ >>> Applications/Utilities. A little more stylized and less >>> photorealistic. Should look better at small

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-24 Thread Dethe Elza
On 4/23/06, Jacob Rus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Zachery Bir wrote: > > Bob Ippolito wrote: > >> +1, I like it! > > Moi, aussi. Put a fork in it, it's done! > Ok, the fork is in. > > http://hcs.harvard.edu/~jrus/python/python-icons.zip > > P.S. two of the icons have drop states. > > _

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-23 Thread Jacob Rus
Zachery Bir wrote: > Bob Ippolito wrote: >> +1, I like it! > Moi, aussi. Put a fork in it, it's done! Ok, the fork is in. http://hcs.harvard.edu/~jrus/python/python-icons.zip P.S. two of the icons have drop states. ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Python

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-23 Thread Nicholas Riley
On Sun, Apr 23, 2006 at 08:20:48PM -0400, Jacob Rus wrote: > Donovan Preston wrote: > > What about something more like the Help Indexer in /Developer/ > > Applications/Utilities. A little more stylized and less > > photorealistic. Should look better at smaller sizes. > > Yeah, building on Brend

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-23 Thread Donovan Preston
On Apr 23, 2006, at 7:07 PM, Zachery Bir wrote: > On Apr 23, 2006, at 9:37 PM, Bob Ippolito wrote: > >> On Apr 23, 2006, at 5:20 PM, Jacob Rus wrote: >> >>> Donovan Preston wrote: What about something more like the Help Indexer in /Developer/ Applications/Utilities. A little more styliz

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-23 Thread Zachery Bir
On Apr 23, 2006, at 9:37 PM, Bob Ippolito wrote: > On Apr 23, 2006, at 5:20 PM, Jacob Rus wrote: > >> Donovan Preston wrote: >>> What about something more like the Help Indexer in /Developer/ >>> Applications/Utilities. A little more stylized and less >>> photorealistic. Should look better at smal

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-23 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Apr 23, 2006, at 5:20 PM, Jacob Rus wrote: > Donovan Preston wrote: >> What about something more like the Help Indexer in /Developer/ >> Applications/Utilities. A little more stylized and less >> photorealistic. Should look better at smaller sizes. > > Yeah, building on Brendan Simons' idea of

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-23 Thread Daniel Lord
On Apr 23, 2006, at 17:20, Jacob Rus wrote:Yeah, building on Brendan Simons' idea of what a Help Indexer-esque  Applet Builder.app icon should look like, here's what I've come up with: http://hcs.harvard.edu/~jrus/python/prettified-py-icons.png Well what do you know! Even better than a blender tho

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-23 Thread Jacob Rus
Donovan Preston wrote: > What about something more like the Help Indexer in /Developer/ > Applications/Utilities. A little more stylized and less > photorealistic. Should look better at smaller sizes. Yeah, building on Brendan Simons' idea of what a Help Indexer-esque Applet Builder.app icon s

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-23 Thread Donovan Preston
On Apr 23, 2006, at 2:30 PM, Nicholas Riley wrote: > On Sun, Apr 23, 2006 at 04:36:26PM -0400, Jacob Rus wrote: >> has wrote: >>> I could draw up a grinder or something in Illustrator, but it >>> probably won't be for some days. If you can find something >>> sooner, that's cool, otherwise let

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-23 Thread Nicholas Riley
On Sun, Apr 23, 2006 at 04:36:26PM -0400, Jacob Rus wrote: > has wrote: > > I could draw up a grinder or something in Illustrator, but it probably > > won't be for some days. If you can find something sooner, that's cool, > > otherwise let me know middle of next week and I'll see what I can do. >

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-23 Thread Daniel Lord
On Apr 23, 2006, at 13:36, Jacob Rus wrote: > has wrote: >> I could draw up a grinder or something in Illustrator, but it >> probably won't be for some days. If you can find something sooner, >> that's cool, otherwise let me know middle of next week and I'll >> see what I can do. > Okay, th

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-23 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 23-apr-2006, at 22:36, Jacob Rus wrote: > has wrote: >> I could draw up a grinder or something in Illustrator, but it >> probably won't be for some days. If you can find something sooner, >> that's cool, otherwise let me know middle of next week and I'll >> see what I can do. > Okay, thi

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-23 Thread Jacob Rus
has wrote: > I could draw up a grinder or something in Illustrator, but it probably won't > be for some days. If you can find something sooner, that's cool, otherwise > let me know middle of next week and I'll see what I can do. Okay, this is kind of goofy, but might work. The second image is th

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-22 Thread Daniel Lord
On Apr 22, 2006, at 15:49, has wrote: > Jacob Rus wrote: > >> Ronald Oussoren wrote: >>> Now that we (almost) have new icons it would be great if someone >>> could have >>> a look at IDLE and at the very least writes down what could be >>> done to make >>> it a better OSX citizen. Actual pa

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-22 Thread has
Jacob Rus wrote: >Ronald Oussoren wrote: >>Now that we (almost) have new icons it would be great if someone could have >>a look at IDLE and at the very least writes down what could be done to make >>it a better OSX citizen. Actual patches would of course even be better. If I get a chance, I'll

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-22 Thread Jordan Krushen
On 4/22/06, Bill Janssen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Alright, one more go with the egg icon. I agree, it did look a bit off: > > > > http://hcs.harvard.edu/~jrus/python/prettified-py-icons.png > > That's a great-looking egg! +1 :) J. ___ Pythonmac-

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-22 Thread Bill Janssen
> Jordan Krushen wrote: > > +1 on everything so far, including the recent changes on the egg, but > > the egg still looks odd to me.. it looks like it's sitting on its thin > > end.. would it be possible to flip the ends of the egg? > > Alright, one more go with the egg icon. I agree, it did look

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-22 Thread Jacob Rus
Brendan Simons wrote: > For the build applet, if the grider icon doesn't work, what about > the generic app icon self assembling from bits. Like this: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/133016352/ Ooh, that's kind of neat. I was trying to find pictures of meat grinders, but n

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-22 Thread Jacob Rus
Jordan Krushen wrote: > +1 on everything so far, including the recent changes on the egg, but > the egg still looks odd to me.. it looks like it's sitting on its thin > end.. would it be possible to flip the ends of the egg? Alright, one more go with the egg icon. I agree, it did look a bit off:

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-22 Thread Brendan Simons
On 22-Apr-06, at 4:59 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Date: April 21, 2006 11:00:22 PM EDT (CA) To: pythonmac-sig@python.org Subject: Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup Jacob Rus wrote: How's this then: http://hcs.harvard.edu/~jrus/python/prettified-py-icons.png Alright, 2 or 3 o

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-22 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 22-apr-2006, at 20:36, Jacob Rus wrote: > Ronald Oussoren wrote: >>> 3. Let's make sure that python files get useful "kMDItemKind" >>> names. >>> Right now, if I associate one with PythonIDE.app, I get >>> "plain text >>> file" for .pyc, and "Document" for .pyo, which is not us

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-22 Thread has
Jacob Rus wrote: >Alright, I've tried those two changes: >http://hcs.harvard.edu/~jrus/python/prettified-py-icons.png > >What do you think? Lovely. has -- http://freespace.virgin.net/hamish.sanderson/ ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@pytho

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-22 Thread Jacob Rus
has wrote: > Definitely getting there. Though the top snake could do with being > a bit lighter. The icon is, first and foremost, a statement that > "this is an application"; the snake logo is just a subtle hint to > say, "by the way, it's built in Python". The eye should be drawn to > the

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-22 Thread Jacob Rus
Ronald Oussoren wrote: >> 3. Let's make sure that python files get useful "kMDItemKind" >> names. >> Right now, if I associate one with PythonIDE.app, I get >> "plain text >> file" for .pyc, and "Document" for .pyo, which is not useful. > That related to the spotlight importer. No,

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-22 Thread has
Jacob Rus wrote: >>http://hcs.harvard.edu/~jrus/python/prettified-py-icons.png > >[...]what do people think of the "generic application" icon as a default for >apps created by py2app/py2applet? Definitely getting there. Though the top snake could do with being a bit lighter. The icon is, first

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-22 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 21-apr-2006, at 16:14, Jacob Rus wrote: > Zachery Bir wrote: >> glenn andreas wrote: >>> A shaded egg with a python logo decal seems good... >> >> +1 > > How's this then: > > http://hcs.harvard.edu/~jrus/python/prettified-py-icons.png These icons look great many thanks to you and anyone else

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-21 Thread Daniel Lord
On Apr 21, 2006, at 21:08, Paul Berkowitz wrote: > On 4/21/06 4:40 PM, "Daniel Lord" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> As for applet icons. How about taking a different tack such as a >> variation on the icon used for Applescript applications: >> After all, a p2app application is still a script dee

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-21 Thread Paul Berkowitz
On 4/21/06 4:40 PM, "Daniel Lord" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As for applet icons. How about taking a different tack such as a > variation on the icon used for Applescript applications: > After all, a p2app application is still a script deep down. NOT a good idea. That icon belongs to AppleScrip

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-21 Thread Daniel Lord
On Apr 21, 2006, at 20:00, Jacob Rus wrote: > Jacob Rus wrote: >> How's this then: >> >> http://hcs.harvard.edu/~jrus/python/prettified-py-icons.png > > Alright, 2 or 3 of the icons have since been updated, and that picture > is new and improved. Are there any more suggested tweaks, or are the >

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-21 Thread Jacob Rus
Jacob Rus wrote: > How's this then: > > http://hcs.harvard.edu/~jrus/python/prettified-py-icons.png Alright, 2 or 3 of the icons have since been updated, and that picture is new and improved. Are there any more suggested tweaks, or are the icons done so far ready to sail? Specifically, what d

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-21 Thread Jacob Rus
Daniel Lord wrote: > As for applet icons. How about taking a different tack such as a > variation on the icon used for Applescript applications: After > all, a p2app application is still a script deep down. I was thinking along the lines of the "Generic Java Application" [icon][1]. I think

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-21 Thread Daniel Lord
As for applet icons. How about taking a different tack such as a variation on the icon used for Applescript applications: After all, a p2app application is still a script deep down. ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-21 Thread Jacob Rus
has wrote: The pen on the IDLE icon could use some subtle tweaking as it's looking a bit flat, grey and lifeless, and a tad long and thin too... I've attached a rough version to give an idea. I might've taken slightly too much off the barrel, and I've lost some highlights. It was quick-n-d

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-21 Thread glenn andreas
On Apr 21, 2006, at 4:18 PM, Donovan Preston wrote:On Apr 21, 2006, at 6:04 AM, glenn andreas wrote:Since a .egg is neither a bundle nor does it contain executable code,  it doesn't seem right to me. What? That's exactly what an egg is, a bundle (zip) of executable code.A "Bundle" under OS/X has a

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-21 Thread Donovan Preston
On Apr 21, 2006, at 6:04 AM, glenn andreas wrote:Since a .egg is neither a bundle nor does it contain executable code,   it doesn't seem right to me. What? That's exactly what an egg is, a bundle (zip) of executable code.dp___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - P

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-21 Thread Donovan Preston
On Apr 21, 2006, at 5:04 AM, Brendan Simons wrote:I'm wary of using the brick logo, because as far as I can see Apple uses them extensively for OS components.  I don't want to dilute their visual meaning by co-opting the icon for something different.  I agree that the box isn't great either though

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-21 Thread Bill Janssen
> > Yeah, the way to do it is editing the app's Info.plist, and adding the > > icon to my.app/Contents/Resources. > But wouldn't that make all BBedit associated files get the Python icon? No. Take a look at http://developer.apple.com/documentation/MacOSX/Conceptual/BPRuntimeConfig/BPRuntimeCon

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-21 Thread Daniel Lord
On Apr 21, 2006, at 12:12, Christopher Barker wrote:Yeah, the way to do it is editing the app's Info.plist, and adding the  icon to my.app/Contents/Resources. But wouldn't that make all BBedit associated files get the Python icon? Yes, I believe it would and, further, one would have to keep 'hacki

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-21 Thread Christopher Barker
Jacob Rus wrote: > Christopher Barker wrote: > >> Question: Do icons need to be associated with applications? Personally, >> I'd love to have all my *.py files have a nice python icon, but be able >> to choose what text editor or IDE I'd want them to open up with my >> default (and it won't be

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-21 Thread Jacob Rus
Christopher Barker wrote: > Question: Do icons need to be associated with applications? Personally, > I'd love to have all my *.py files have a nice python icon, but be able > to choose what text editor or IDE I'd want them to open up with my > default (and it won't be IDLE!). i.e. I want the p

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-21 Thread Daniel Lord
On Apr 21, 2006, at 9:45, Christopher Barker wrote: > > Question: Do icons need to be associated with applications? > Personally, > I'd love to have all my *.py files have a nice python icon, but be > able > to choose what text editor or IDE I'd want them to open up with my > default (and it w

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-21 Thread Christopher Barker
Jacob Rus wrote: >> It might be handy to compare versions with 2D-snakes and 3D-snakes side >> by side +1 on the glossy: it really says OS-X > I don't think stealing the Apple Installer icon is a good idea for > .egg though - double-clicking it doesn't install anything. Yet. We have talked about

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-21 Thread Bill Janssen
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/132185325/ Great job, the both of you. Let's declare victory and go home. Bill ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-21 Thread Kent Quirk
Ok, that set just rocks. Nice work. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jacob Rus Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 10:14 AM To: pythonmac-sig@python.org Subject: Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup Zachery Bir wrote: > glenn andr

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-21 Thread Zachery Bir
On Apr 21, 2006, at 10:14 AM, Jacob Rus wrote: > Zachery Bir wrote: >> glenn andreas wrote: >>> A shaded egg with a python logo decal seems good... >> >> +1 > > How's this then: > > http://hcs.harvard.edu/~jrus/python/prettified-py-icons.png Love it! Zac

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-21 Thread Jacob Rus
Zachery Bir wrote: > glenn andreas wrote: >> A shaded egg with a python logo decal seems good... > > +1 How's this then: http://hcs.harvard.edu/~jrus/python/prettified-py-icons.png -Jacob ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http:/

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-21 Thread Arthur Elsenaar
On 21 Apr 2006, at 15:18, Jacob Rus wrote: >> - The rocket logo looks better to me centered over the widest bit > > Yeah, I think so too, now that I compare them. I'm still not sure I > like the rocket in general... it's kind of tacky. just a quick idea, launching on the mac is equivalent to bo

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-21 Thread Zachery Bir
On Apr 21, 2006, at 9:04 AM, glenn andreas wrote: > On Apr 21, 2006, at 7:09 AM, Zachery Bir wrote: > >> A lot of Internet Plug-ins use them, and I've seen them branded by >> the developers of such. I don't think we'll be diluting much. >> >> Zac > > That's because the lego brick icon is designed

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-21 Thread glenn andreas
On Apr 21, 2006, at 7:09 AM, Zachery Bir wrote: > On Apr 21, 2006, at 8:04 AM, Brendan Simons wrote: > >> On 21-Apr-06, at 6:00 AM, donovan wrote: I don't think stealing the Apple Installer icon is a good idea for .egg though - double-clicking it doesn't install anything. Perhaps

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-21 Thread Jacob Rus
Brendan Simons wrote: > I'm wary of using the brick logo, because as far as I can see Apple uses > them extensively for OS components. I don't want to dilute their visual > meaning by co-opting the icon for something different. I agree that the > box isn't great either though since eggs aren't

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-21 Thread Zachery Bir
On Apr 21, 2006, at 8:04 AM, Brendan Simons wrote: > On 21-Apr-06, at 6:00 AM, donovan wrote: >>> I don't think stealing the Apple Installer icon is a good idea for >>> .egg though - double-clicking it doesn't install anything. Perhaps >>> something closer to a StuffIt archive icon (a closed box)

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-21 Thread Brendan Simons
On 21-Apr-06, at 6:00 AM, donovan wrote:I don't think stealing the Apple Installer icon is a good idea for.egg though - double-clicking it doesn't install anything.  Perhapssomething closer to a StuffIt archive icon (a closed box) or a Pythonlogo behind Apple's zipper icon with "EGG" underneath.  O

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-21 Thread Jacob Rus
Brendan Simons wrote: > I've attached a few more mockups using Jacob's excellent aquified > logo. Have a look here: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/132185325/ Alright, I tried the monochrome idea for bytecode files, and also put up my own attempt at an embossed logo on a rocke

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-20 Thread Jacob Rus
Jacob Rus wrote: > 1. I just realized that I didn't mask some of the lighting effects in > that "aquified logo", so there's some spillover into the space > around it, which has since been fixed, in both [psd][1] and [png][2] > versions online. > 2. Go ahead and use the [document

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-20 Thread Nicholas Riley
On Thu, Apr 20, 2006 at 10:00:45PM -0700, Donovan Preston wrote: > > I don't think stealing the Apple Installer icon is a good idea for > > .egg though - double-clicking it doesn't install anything. Perhaps > > something closer to a StuffIt archive icon (a closed box) or a Python > > logo behind A

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-20 Thread Donovan Preston
On Apr 20, 2006, at 10:03 PM, Troy Rollins wrote: > > On Apr 21, 2006, at 12:50 AM, Daniel Lord wrote: > >> I have to say: I really like these. Visually distinct, crisp, and >> clear. Great work to all of you who have put talents I wish I had in >> graphic design to work and produced an outstandi

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-20 Thread Nicholas Riley
On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 12:56:45AM -0400, Jacob Rus wrote: > 6. I've never used .egg files, but this icon makes them look like > installers. Is that what they are? No, they're the equivalent of jar files (archives of Python code), except they're not launchable. Unfortunately the jar icon

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-20 Thread Donovan Preston
On Apr 20, 2006, at 8:38 PM, Nicholas Riley wrote: > On Thu, Apr 20, 2006 at 11:11:19PM -0400, Brendan Simons wrote: >> I've attached a few more mockups using Jacob's excellent aquified >> logo. Have a look here: >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/132185325/ Awesome. I love them.

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-20 Thread Donovan Preston
On Apr 20, 2006, at 9:56 PM, Jacob Rus wrote:  6. I've never used .egg files, but this icon makes them look like      installers.  Is that what they are?They are .zip files that contain python files and other resources used by a python package. Instead of installing source in your site-packages dir

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-20 Thread Troy Rollins
On Apr 21, 2006, at 12:50 AM, Daniel Lord wrote: > I have to say: I really like these. Visually distinct, crisp, and > clear. Great work to all of you who have put talents I wish I had in > graphic design to work and produced an outstanding set of icons the > Mac Python community should be proud

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-20 Thread Jacob Rus
Brendan Simons wrote: > I've attached a few more mockups using Jacob's excellent aquified > logo. Have a look here: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/132185325/ > > In the spirit of open source, the layered psd files are available here: > http://s65.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2CK5SU

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-20 Thread Daniel Lord
On Apr 20, 2006, at 20:11, Brendan Simons wrote: > I've attached a few more mockups using Jacob's excellent aquified > logo. Have a look here: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/132185325/ > > In the spirit of open source, the layered psd files are available > here: > http://s65.

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-20 Thread Nicholas Riley
On Thu, Apr 20, 2006 at 11:11:19PM -0400, Brendan Simons wrote: > I've attached a few more mockups using Jacob's excellent aquified > logo. Have a look here: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/132185325/ The .pyc logo is a great improvement over everything else I've seen - the bit

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-20 Thread Brendan Simons
I've attached a few more mockups using Jacob's excellent aquified logo. Have a look here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/132185325/ In the spirit of open source, the layered psd files are available here: http://s65.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2CK5SUGTM74TH3OXH3WY6R8T66 -Brendan ___

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-20 Thread Jacob Rus
has wrote: > It might be handy to compare versions with 2D-snakes and 3D-snakes side > by side (the tonal gradient on the 2D version may need nudged up a > fraction to make it pop a bit more against the backdrop). Perhaps with a > third 50% version to compare too. http://hcs.harvard.edu/~jrus/pyth

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-20 Thread Nir Soffer
On 20/04/2006, at 08:47, Jacob Rus wrote: > You're probably right, but make sure you look at the actual icon files > (in the zip files I linked to earlier) as well as the png files. There > are some icc profile mismatch issues here, which I always seem to run > into with png files (and it previe

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-20 Thread Daniel Lord
On Apr 20, 2006, at 10:06, Charles Hartman wrote:On Apr 20, 2006, at 12:55 PM, Christopher Barker wrote: Perhaps the "snakes" logo should be larger, filling more of the icon, particularly at the smaller sizes. There isn't any real info in the "paper" background. FWIW, I agree with that. Me three.

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-20 Thread Charles Hartman
On Apr 20, 2006, at 12:55 PM, Christopher Barker wrote: > Perhaps the "snakes" logo should be larger, filling more of the icon, > particularly at the smaller sizes. There isn't any real info in the > "paper" background. FWIW, I agree with that. Charles Hartman

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-20 Thread Christopher Barker
Nicholas Riley wrote: > I'd say "PYC", > My second choice would be the unadorned one. My thoughts exactly. Only semi-related: Perhaps the "snakes" logo should be larger, filling more of the icon, particularly at the smaller sizes. There isn't any real info in the "paper" background. -Chris

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-20 Thread Bill Janssen
> Which do you prefer? The PYC. Bill ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-20 Thread Michael Barber
On Apr 20, 2006, at 12:31 PM, Jacob Rus wrote: > > On Apr 20, Brendan Simons wrote: >> You do see other apps badging icons with the suffix. It's standard >> procedure for those files which can be opened by more than one >> editor/reader. Take PDF for instance. The preview icon is there, >> bu

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-20 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 20-apr-2006, at 13:31, Jacob Rus wrote: >> You do see other apps badging icons with the suffix. It's standard >> procedure for those files which can be opened by more than one >> editor/reader. Take PDF for instance. The preview icon is there, >> but >> so is "PDF", as a reminder that you

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-20 Thread Jacob Rus
> You do see other apps badging icons with the suffix. It's standard > procedure for those files which can be opened by more than one > editor/reader. Take PDF for instance. The preview icon is there, but > so is "PDF", as a reminder that you don't -really- need to open it with > preview. H

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-20 Thread Brendan Simons
On 20-Apr-06, at 5:51 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:The regular .py files should probably be badged "Python" as well, I think that's overkill; you don't see other apps doing this sort of thing. Have some faith in your own material. :) Don't forget that file names will already have a '.py' suffix, so

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-20 Thread has
Jacob Rus wrote: >>In fact, I think the ones-and-zeros background without any words might work >>just fine. > >Easy enough: http://hcs.harvard.edu/~jrus/python/pyc-icon-variations.png > >Which do you prefer? Ones-and-zeros only, I say. The only other thing that'd make sense is 'BYTECODE', but t

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-20 Thread has
Brendan Simons wrote: >> > They look great, but what the heck is "DATA"? >> >> >>It was has's [idea][1] for what a .pyo/.pyc icons should look like, similar >>to how script editor allows saving of plain text .applescript files with an >>icon labeled "TEXT". >> >>[1]: >>

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-19 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 20-apr-2006, at 6:16, Brendan Simons wrote: > > On 19-Apr-06, at 8:57 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> Christopher Barker wrote: >> > They look great, but what the heck is "DATA"? >> >> It was has's [idea][1] for what a .pyo/.pyc icons should look >> like, similar to how script editor allow

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-19 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 20-apr-2006, at 0:30, Jacob Rus wrote: > Ok, what do you all think of these script and compiled script icons: > > PNG: http://hcs.harvard.edu/~jrus/python/python-icons-a1.png > ZIP: http://hcs.harvard.edu/~jrus/python/python-icons-a1.zip > > The zip file contains icns files, png files, and als

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-19 Thread Jacob Rus
Hi again, So that others can more easily play with these icons, here are the Photoshop versions of the full-size glassy [logo][1], and the [document icons][2]. All the layers are included, so it should be pretty easy to tweak the highlights, etc. I probably won't have any more time to work o

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-19 Thread Nicholas Riley
On Thu, Apr 20, 2006 at 01:40:00AM -0400, Jacob Rus wrote: > Easy enough: http://hcs.harvard.edu/~jrus/python/pyc-icon-variations.png > > Which do you prefer? I'd say "PYC", because although it isn't a word, the icon does a better job of connoting the file contents than any of the other words, an

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-19 Thread Daniel Lord
On Apr 19, 2006, at 22:47, Jacob Rus wrote:Brendan Simons wrote: I like it, but Aqua has tuned down a lot its glassiness in recent  years.   I would tone down the difference between highlights and shadows  myself, but I'm not going to argue about it :) You're probably right, but make sure you look

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-19 Thread Jacob Rus
Brendan Simons wrote: > I like it, but Aqua has tuned down a lot its glassiness in recent > years. I would tone down the difference between highlights and shadows > myself, but I'm not going to argue about it :) You're probably right, but make sure you look at the actual icon files (in the zi

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-19 Thread Jacob Rus
Christopher Barker wrote: > Jacob Rus wrote: >> Christopher Barker wrote: >> > They look great, but what the heck is "DATA"? >> It was has's [idea][1] for what a .pyo/.pyc icons should look like, >> similar to how script editor allows saving of plain text .applescript >> files with an icon label

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-19 Thread Daniel Lord
On Apr 19, 2006, at 21:41, Christopher Barker wrote: > Well, a script is text, but a .pyc file is not Data. Maybe "bytecode", > which is too long, or "bytes" or "code" or ".pyc" or ??? I think it should be an Apple with a bite out of it--get it? Apple, snake, apple, byte . I kill myself ;-) Ok

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-19 Thread Christopher Barker
Jacob Rus wrote: > Christopher Barker wrote: > > They look great, but what the heck is "DATA"? > > It was has's [idea][1] for what a .pyo/.pyc icons should look like, > similar to how script editor allows saving of plain text .applescript > files with an icon labeled "TEXT". Well, a script is

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-19 Thread Brendan Simons
On 20-Apr-06, at 12:15 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:From: Jacob Rus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: April 19, 2006 10:06:34 PM EDT (CA) To: pythonmac-sig@python.org Subject: Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup Bill Janssen wrote: No, I disagree.  If there is any text, it should be i

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-19 Thread Brendan Simons
On 19-Apr-06, at 8:57 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Christopher Barker wrote: > They look great, but what the heck is "DATA"? It was has's [idea][1] for what a .pyo/.pyc icons should look like, similar to how script editor allows saving of plain text .applescript files with an icon labeled "TEXT".

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-19 Thread Brendan Simons
>> Jacob Rus wrote: >> There's the flat logo, but the logo I was pointing to was a version that's shaded a bit to look slightly raised and rounded. >>> Were you looking for something more like [this][1]? >>> [1]: http://hcs.harvard.edu/~jrus/python/Glassy-Icon.png >>> >> The snake lo

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-19 Thread Jacob Rus
Bill Janssen wrote: >> No, I disagree. If there is any text, it should be in dark gray 18 >> point Lucida Grande, as per the HIG. XCode uses colored file >> extensions in its document graphics because it deals with many >> different types of source files, and this keeps them >> distinguishable.

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-19 Thread Bill Janssen
> No, I disagree. If there is any text, it should be in dark gray 18 > point Lucida Grande, as per the HIG. XCode uses colored file extensions > in its document graphics because it deals with many different types of > source files, and this keeps them distinguishable. It's not just XCode. *U

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-19 Thread Bill Janssen
I found two articles on creating icons that may provide some info. http://www.oreillynet.com/lpt/a/866 and http://www.oreillynet.com/lpt/a/964. Bill ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonma

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