Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Finding what a broken alias refers to.

2005-06-24 Thread has
Ronald Oussoren wrote: >>1. Could we take the current bgen-generated C source and turn it over to >>manual maintainers? > >There's little change that this will be accepted in the official tree. Since the official Carbon tree is largely moribund anyway, I can't say I'm too bothered by this. Henc

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Finding what a broken alias refers to.

2005-06-24 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 24-jun-2005, at 16:52, has wrote: > Bob wrote: > > >> Nobody is suggesting that we manually wrap Carbon. >> > > Indeed. However, given the effective deadlock that bgen is causing > (great-in-theory being the enemy of good-in-practice) perhaps we > could find a pragmatic compromise? A semi-

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Finding what a broken alias refers to.

2005-06-24 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 24-jun-2005, at 17:05, has wrote: > Ronald Oussoren wrote: > > >> I'm not happy with the way that the Carbon wrappers work, adding >> Carbon functions as methods of seemingly related classes. This >> makes it harder to map documentation for Carbon to Python. It is >> also ugly. But this

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Finding what a broken alias refers to.

2005-06-24 Thread has
Ronald Oussoren wrote: >I'm not happy with the way that the Carbon wrappers work, adding Carbon >functions as methods of seemingly related classes. This makes it harder to map >documentation for Carbon to Python. It is also ugly. But this might not be a >problem with bgen itself. > >I'd prefer

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Finding what a broken alias refers to.

2005-06-24 Thread has
Bob wrote: >Nobody is suggesting that we manually wrap Carbon. Indeed. However, given the effective deadlock that bgen is causing (great-in-theory being the enemy of good-in-practice) perhaps we could find a pragmatic compromise? A semi-automated system that works adequately would, I think, be

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Finding what a broken alias refers to.

2005-06-24 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 24-jun-2005, at 15:27, Dethe Elza wrote: > Ronald Oussoren wrote: > > >> Someone with copious free time should build new Carbon wrappers, we >> can than ask if the existing wrappers can be dropped in a future >> version of Python. Sadly enough that probably is with python 2.6 at >> the earlies

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Finding what a broken alias refers to.

2005-06-24 Thread Dethe Elza
On 24-Jun-05, at 6:35 AM, Bob Ippolito wrote: >> Is there a hitlist of frameworks that would be good to support, >> but are not supported yet? What are some of the best targets for >> someone who wants to jump in and help out? >> > > The most useful work would be hacking on the parser/generato

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Finding what a broken alias refers to.

2005-06-24 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Jun 24, 2005, at 9:27 AM, Dethe Elza wrote: > Ronald Oussoren wrote: > > >> Someone with copious free time should build new Carbon wrappers, we >> can than ask if the existing wrappers can be dropped in a future >> version of Python. Sadly enough that probably is with python 2.6 at >> the earl

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Finding what a broken alias refers to.

2005-06-24 Thread Dethe Elza
Ronald Oussoren wrote: > Someone with copious free time should build new Carbon wrappers, we > can than ask if the existing wrappers can be dropped in a future > version of Python. Sadly enough that probably is with python 2.6 at > the earliest, which is a long way away. > Would there be any bene

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Finding what a broken alias refers to.

2005-06-24 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 24-jun-2005, at 12:22, Bob Ippolito wrote: >> >> Someone with copious free time should build new Carbon wrappers, we >> can than ask if the existing wrappers can be dropped in a future >> version of Python. Sadly enough that probably is with python 2.6 at >> the earliest, which is a long way a

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Finding what a broken alias refers to.

2005-06-24 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Jun 24, 2005, at 6:13 AM, Ronald Oussoren wrote: > > On 24-jun-2005, at 12:03, Bob Ippolito wrote: > > >> >> On Jun 24, 2005, at 5:41 AM, Ronald Oussoren wrote: >> >> >> >>> >>> On 24-jun-2005, at 0:52, has wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Bob wrote: >> Is there a way I

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Finding what a broken alias refers to.

2005-06-24 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 24-jun-2005, at 12:03, Bob Ippolito wrote: > > On Jun 24, 2005, at 5:41 AM, Ronald Oussoren wrote: > > >> >> On 24-jun-2005, at 0:52, has wrote: >> >> >> >>> Bob wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> > Is there a way I can contribute (using some of the time > slots I now try to put aside for Boost an

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Finding what a broken alias refers to.

2005-06-24 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Jun 24, 2005, at 5:41 AM, Ronald Oussoren wrote: > > On 24-jun-2005, at 0:52, has wrote: > > >> Bob wrote: >> >> >> Is there a way I can contribute (using some of the time slots I now try to put aside for Boost and the unreasonable number of things I intend to do)? >

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Finding what a broken alias refers to.

2005-06-24 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 24-jun-2005, at 0:52, has wrote: Bob wrote: Is there a way I can contribute (using some of the time slots I now try to put aside for Boost and the unreasonable number of things I intend to do)? Currently, all of the wrapped Carbon functionality is done with an ancient, fragile an

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Finding what a broken alias refers to.

2005-06-23 Thread has
Bob wrote: >>Is there a way I can contribute (using some of the time >>slots I now try to put aside for Boost and the unreasonable number of >>things I intend to do)? > >Currently, all of the wrapped Carbon functionality is done with an ancient, >fragile and undocumented parser/generator called

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Finding what a broken alias refers to.

2005-06-23 Thread Bob Ippolito
is a don't-write-broken-source-code kind of issue, it can't happen by mixing things at runtime with Python. >> From: Chinook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Date: 21 juin 2005 18:20:07 HAEC >> To: pythonmac-sig@python.org >> Subject: Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Finding what

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Finding what a broken alias refers to.

2005-06-23 Thread Hubert Holin
pythonmac-sig@python.org > Subject: Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Finding what a broken alias refers to. > > > On Jun 21, 2005, at 11:21 AM, Hubert Holin wrote: > > >> For my first Python steps on the Mac, I am trying to find >> information on all broken aliases in a folder

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Finding what a broken alias refers to.

2005-06-21 Thread has
Hubert Holin wrote: > It would seem that the best function to get that information is >thru the FSFollowFinderAlias function of the Alias Manager, but >unfortunately the only version which is wrapped is a member of the >Alias class, which I have not found a way to use, as all I have is an >ins

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Finding what a broken alias refers to.

2005-06-21 Thread Chinook
On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:21:17 -0400, Hubert Holin wrote (in article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>): > Somewhere in the E.U., le 21/06/2005 > > Bonjour > > For my first Python steps on the Mac, I am trying to find > information on all broken aliases in a folder hierarchy (i.e. aliases > which were

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Finding what a broken alias refers to.

2005-06-21 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Jun 21, 2005, at 11:21 AM, Hubert Holin wrote: > For my first Python steps on the Mac, I am trying to find > information on all broken aliases in a folder hierarchy (i.e. aliases > which were created thru the Finder and which no longer reference an > existing file or folder). While I am ab

[Pythonmac-SIG] Finding what a broken alias refers to.

2005-06-21 Thread Hubert Holin
Somewhere in the E.U., le 21/06/2005 Bonjour For my first Python steps on the Mac, I am trying to find information on all broken aliases in a folder hierarchy (i.e. aliases which were created thru the Finder and which no longer reference an existing file or folder). While I am able to