Christopher Barker wrote:
I don't think TK does use native widgets -- it certainly didn't used to.
It was originally built for X11, and got ported to other platforms by
emulating the X11 drawing calls, still drawing its own widgets. I know
they've added support for native standard dialogs, l
Christopher Barker wrote:
> > could build your own app using PyObjC to access the Cocoa GUI, using
> > Python without a Python app bundle.
>
> Can you? Isn't a PyObjC app using the Python executable as the "main"
> app, just like any other python program?
Yes, using the Python executable. But i
Brian Granger wrote:
Some people I am working with feel that doing a framework build is a
bit of a hassle. It means they/we have to support custom build logic
on OS X compared to linux/unix, which I agree is a pain.
no matter how you slice, it you will have to do some custom support for
OS-X
Ronald Oussoren wrote:
> On 14 May, 2009, at 4:31, Bill Janssen wrote:
>
> > I think this depends on what you think the "native Mac GUI" is, and
> > what
> > you want to do with it. For instance, a non-framework build, combined
> > with Xlib (http://python-xlib.sourceforge.net/) works quite wel
Ronald Oussoren wrote:
And to be honest, I even have doubts about a toolkit such as Tk which
uses native widgets but has a rather un-mac feeling unless the developer
really knows what he's doing. That explains why IDLE looks ugly on OSX,
I don't know what I'm doing w.r.t. Tk on OSX, and AFAIK
On 14 May, 2009, at 4:31, Bill Janssen wrote:
I think this depends on what you think the "native Mac GUI" is, and
what
you want to do with it. For instance, a non-framework build, combined
with Xlib (http://python-xlib.sourceforge.net/) works quite well with
the Apple X11 server, which in tu
On 14 May, 2009, at 1:03, Bill Janssen wrote:
Christopher Barker wrote:
Brian Granger wrote:
I seem to recall that a Framework build of Python is needed if you
want to do anything with the native Mac GUI. Is my understanding
correct?
Pretty much -- to access the Mac GUI, an app need
I think this depends on what you think the "native Mac GUI" is, and what
you want to do with it. For instance, a non-framework build, combined
with Xlib (http://python-xlib.sourceforge.net/) works quite well with
the Apple X11 server, which in turn uses the native Mac GUI.
Bill
Brian Granger wr
In article <15498.1242255...@parc.com>, Bill Janssen
wrote:
> I suspect that the default build of PyObjC assumes that Python is a
> framework build, too. But I don't know if you could build a
> non-framework Python and non-framework PyObjC, and use those together to
> write Python programs that
In article
<6ce0ac130905131523m7c4002e9i18816fd6dad37...@mail.gmail.com>,
Brian Granger wrote:
> > Do you have a reason for not wanting to use a Framework build?
> Some people I am working with feel that doing a framework build is a
> bit of a hassle. It means they/we have to support custom bui
Christopher Barker wrote:
>
> > Brian Granger wrote:
>
> >> I seem to recall that a Framework build of Python is needed if you
> >> want to do anything with the native Mac GUI. Is my understanding
> >> correct?
>
> Pretty much -- to access the Mac GUI, an app needs to be in a proper
> Mac ap
> Pretty much -- to access the Mac GUI, an app needs to be in a proper Mac
> application bundle. The Framework build supplies that. Technically, the use
> of a framework is independent for this requirement, but using a Framework
> build is the easiest way to satisfy it.
OK.
> Do you have a reason
Brian Granger wrote:
I seem to recall that a Framework build of Python is needed if you
want to do anything with the native Mac GUI. Is my understanding
correct?
Pretty much -- to access the Mac GUI, an app needs to be in a proper Mac
application bundle. The Framework build supplies that
The Mac comes with a Framework build of Python pre-installed (and with
PyObjC pre-installed, which you also need). Just use /usr/bin/python,
and you'll be fine.
It's the default way that Python builds on a Mac, too.
Bill
Brian Granger wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I seem to recall that a Framework build
Hi,
I seem to recall that a Framework build of Python is needed if you
want to do anything with the native Mac GUI. Is my understanding
correct? If so, is this requirement documented somewhere?
Thanks!
Brian
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