Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] macpython on future apple's intel processors?

2005-06-07 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Jun 7, 2005, at 6:50 PM, Ronald Oussoren wrote: > > On 7-jun-2005, at 10:59, Bob Ippolito wrote: > > > >> >> On Jun 7, 2005, at 12:36 AM, Markus Weissmann wrote: >> >> >> >> >>> I think this won't be a big headache for the Python community - not >>> even for >>> the whole open source people; i

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] macpython on future apple's intel processors?

2005-06-07 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 7-jun-2005, at 10:59, Bob Ippolito wrote: > > On Jun 7, 2005, at 12:36 AM, Markus Weissmann wrote: > > > >> I think this won't be a big headache for the Python community - not >> even for >> the whole open source people; in fact - as darwin for x86 already is >> available >> for some time now

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] bdist_mpkg Package Names

2005-06-07 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Jun 7, 2005, at 7:27 PM, Nick Matsakis wrote: > > On Tue, 7 Jun 2005, Bob Ippolito wrote: > > >> The OS version number is to specify on which version of Mac OS X the >> package was built. This matters, because packages will only run on >> versions of Mac OS X >= this version unless it contain

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] bdist_mpkg Package Names

2005-06-07 Thread Nick Matsakis
On Tue, 7 Jun 2005, Bob Ippolito wrote: > The OS version number is to specify on which version of Mac OS X the > package was built. This matters, because packages will only run on > versions of Mac OS X >= this version unless it contains no > extensions. The BundleIdentifier isn't the place for

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] avoid dueling pythons on tiger

2005-06-07 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Jun 6, 2005, at 8:59 PM, Jon Schull wrote: > Please forgive the cross-post. I think this is a cross group issue. > > I've newly installed Tiger and would like to avoid the dueling > pythons problem that plagued me with 0SX 10.3. It would be nice to > be running just one python, but I su

[Pythonmac-SIG] avoid dueling pythons on tiger

2005-06-07 Thread Jon Schull
Please forgive the cross-post.   I think this is a cross group issue.I've newly installed Tiger and would like to avoid the dueling pythons problem that plagued me with 0SX 10.3.  It would be nice to be running just one python, but I suppose that would be asking too much?I installed Bob's MacPython

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] ActiveState's OS X Python

2005-06-07 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Jun 7, 2005, at 5:25 PM, Trent Mick wrote: > [Larry Meyn wrote] > >> Sorry for the wording, a failed attempt at humor. >> > > No worries. Just making sure that ActivePython wasn't doing anything > stupid. My successful attempt at paranoia. :) Well, there is the license: "You may make and giv

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] ActiveState's OS X Python

2005-06-07 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Jun 7, 2005, at 5:23 PM, Trent Mick wrote: > [Bob Ippolito wrote] > >> It'd probably be better off just moving it to /Library/Frameworks/ >> Backup/Python.framework or something, for at least these reasons: >> >> If a developer is going to naively embed ActivePython in their >> application, th

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] [Matplotlib-users] Re: matplotlib on Tiger?

2005-06-07 Thread Charles Moad
I believe I said I would make a pkg for OS 10.4, not python 2.4.1. Sorry if I said the later. I am waiting a little while now, since it seems 0.81 is having tex issues and there may be a version bump here soon. I could help you through the install you mentioned. Installing each de

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] ActiveState's OS X Python

2005-06-07 Thread Trent Mick
[Larry Meyn wrote] > Sorry for the wording, a failed attempt at humor. No worries. Just making sure that ActivePython wasn't doing anything stupid. My successful attempt at paranoia. :) Cheers, Trent -- Trent Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Pythonmac-SIG m

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] ActiveState's OS X Python

2005-06-07 Thread Trent Mick
[Bob Ippolito wrote] > It'd probably be better off just moving it to /Library/Frameworks/ > Backup/Python.framework or something, for at least these reasons: > > If a developer is going to naively embed ActivePython in their > application, they'll probably just add a copy files phase to their

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] ActiveState's OS X Python

2005-06-07 Thread Trent Mick
[andrea valle wrote] > Let's suppose I install ActivePython. > How do I install other modules? for example NumPy or PIL. > Is there a particular mechanism doing the dirty job (a job in which I > tipically don't succeed without package manager...)? The standard way for 3rd-party modules to do this

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] bdist_mpkg Package Names

2005-06-07 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Jun 6, 2005, at 1:10 PM, Nick Matsakis wrote: > In building packages, bdist_mpkg must pick a name and bundle > identifier > for the package, e.g. building appscript results in: > > name: appscript-purelib-0.12.0-py2.3-macosx10.3 > bundleIdentifier: org.pythonmac.appscript-purelib-py2.3-macosx

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] [Matplotlib-users] Re: matplotlib on Tiger?

2005-06-07 Thread fghorow . 11707581
Thanks to everybody for the informative replies! I'm now trying to decide my best course of action. The way I see the current situation, there is Charlie's standalone installer from IU, but that does not integrate with the pythonmac.org installation (which currently affects me greatly, because I'

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] ActiveState's OS X Python

2005-06-07 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Jun 7, 2005, at 1:30 PM, Trent Mick wrote: >> On Jun 7, 2005, at 8:29 AM, Larry Meyn wrote: >> >>> There's a new kid in town and he doesn't play nice with MacPython >>> (but >>> he does ask first before kicking MacPython aside:) >>> >>> Any thoughts on how this affects the Python development

[Pythonmac-SIG] PythonCard on OS X 10.4

2005-06-07 Thread Arthur Elsenaar
Hi, trying to install PythonCard on OS X 10.4, but running into an import problem. I installed python2.4.1, wxPython2.6, TigerPython24Fix and TigerPython23Compat from Bob's packages page and added /usr/local/bin to my path. Python2.4 runs fine and I can import wx fine, but not pythoncard

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] [Matplotlib-users] Re: matplotlib on Tiger?

2005-06-07 Thread Charles Moad
All the binaries I provide depend on the system installed python (i.e. python2.3.x). These binaries are meant for people who want a one click installer for matplotlib in OSX that includes all needed dependencies. I would expect more seasoned python users to install the packages from

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] ActiveState's OS X Python

2005-06-07 Thread andrea valle
Hi and thanks for the porting. I'm sorry if I'm asking obvious things but I'm just a sort of programmer. Let's suppose I install ActivePython. How do I install other modules? for example NumPy or PIL. Is there a particular mechanism doing the dirty job (a job in which I tipically don't succeed wi

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] matplotlib on Tiger?

2005-06-07 Thread Chris Barker
Charles Moad wrote: > I am posting a new 0.81 build with basemap-0.5 right now for Panther. But does this use python 2.4 ? That wasn't' clear to me from the download page. - Chris -- Christopher Barker, Ph.D. Oceanographer NOAA/OR&R/HAZMA

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] ActiveState's OS X Python

2005-06-07 Thread Larry Meyn
Trent, Sorry for the wording, a failed attempt at humor. I just glanced at the announcement and noticed that your installer will move macpython aside, but failed to notice that it adds some symlinks to still access macpython and there is a mechanism to put it back. It's just that having two

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] ActiveState's OS X Python

2005-06-07 Thread Trent Mick
> On Jun 7, 2005, at 8:29 AM, Larry Meyn wrote: > > There's a new kid in town and he doesn't play nice with MacPython (but > > he does ask first before kicking MacPython aside:) > > > > Any thoughts on how this affects the Python development ecosystem for > > OS X? (.. and right on the heels of the

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] matplotlib on Tiger?

2005-06-07 Thread Charles Moad
I am posting a new 0.81 build with basemap-0.5 right now for Panther. The 0.80 misplaced the datafiles, which explains the .matplotlibrc error you got, Christian. I will make a Tiger build when I get home to my laptop tonight. The current tiger build should work fine though, only the pant

[Pythonmac-SIG] ANN: ActivePython 2.4.1 for Mac OS X is now available

2005-06-07 Thread Trent Mick
Today ActiveState is announcing support for Mac OS X. I'm happy to announce that ActivePython 2.4.1 for Mac OS X is now available for free download from: http://www.ActiveState.com/Products/ActivePython/ This brings the number of free ActivePython platforms to four -- with the existing Linu

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] macpython on future apple's intel processors?

2005-06-07 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Jun 7, 2005, at 11:14 AM, Christopher Petrilli wrote: > On 6/7/05, Bob Ippolito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> That's totally not true, though. Basically, almost NONE of the Mac- >> specific Python stuff works correctly on Mac OS X for Intel, and the >> changes required to fix that are hard.

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] macpython on future apple's intel processors?

2005-06-07 Thread Christopher Petrilli
On 6/7/05, Bob Ippolito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That's totally not true, though. Basically, almost NONE of the Mac- > specific Python stuff works correctly on Mac OS X for Intel, and the > changes required to fix that are hard. I'm not that familiar with the specific changes, but from readin

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] ActiveState's OS X Python

2005-06-07 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Jun 7, 2005, at 8:29 AM, Larry Meyn wrote: > There's a new kid in town and he doesn't play nice with MacPython (but > he does ask first before kicking MacPython aside:) > > Any thoughts on how this affects the Python development ecosystem for > OS X? (.. and right on the heels of the Intel ann

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] macpython on future apple's intel processors?

2005-06-07 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Jun 7, 2005, at 12:36 AM, Markus Weissmann wrote: > I think this won't be a big headache for the Python community - not > even for > the whole open source people; in fact - as darwin for x86 already is > available > for some time now - we've already tested some software on darwin/x86. > You ma

[Pythonmac-SIG] ActiveState's OS X Python

2005-06-07 Thread Larry Meyn
There's a new kid in town and he doesn't play nice with MacPython (but he does ask first before kicking MacPython aside:) Any thoughts on how this affects the Python development ecosystem for OS X? (.. and right on the heels of the Intel announcements.) http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/docs/A

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] matplotlib on Tiger?

2005-06-07 Thread Christian Meesters
Hi Frank, You might want to check this link: http://sda.iu.edu/projects.html It provides you with binary installers. The link was posted in the matplotlib mailing list. I suggested to announce it for the Pythonmac-SIG as well (hereby done *g*), but got no reply so far. Cheers, Christian On

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] retrieving config values from the System Preferences

2005-06-07 Thread Nicholas Riley
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 02:54:12PM +0200, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > I'm porting an app to Mac OS X and I need to retrieve the configuration > values entered in the System Preferences (specifically the HTTP proxy > settings). I already know how to do that under Gnome and Windows, but I > haven't found

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] retrieving config values from the System Preferences

2005-06-07 Thread Doug Wyatt
On Jun 7, 2005, at 5:54, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > Hi, > > I'm porting an app to Mac OS X and I need to retrieve the > configuration > values entered in the System Preferences (specifically the HTTP proxy > settings). I already know how to do that under Gnome and Windows, > but I > haven't found

[Pythonmac-SIG] retrieving config values from the System Preferences

2005-06-07 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Hi, I'm porting an app to Mac OS X and I need to retrieve the configuration values entered in the System Preferences (specifically the HTTP proxy settings). I already know how to do that under Gnome and Windows, but I haven't found how to retrieve those values under Mac OS X (Panther, by the way)

[Pythonmac-SIG] matplotlib on Tiger?

2005-06-07 Thread fghorow . 11707581
Hi all, What's the recommended way to install matplotlib on the 2.4.1 framework build? I've tried installing the py2.3-macosx.3 version, but that didn't seem to work. Do I need to use fink (and leave the nice "official unoffical" environment behind)? Compile from source? Dependency issues? A

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] macpython on future apple's intel processors?

2005-06-07 Thread Markus Weissmann
Hi Enrike, I think this won't be a big headache for the Python community - not even for the whole open source people; in fact - as darwin for x86 already is available for some time now - we've already tested some software on darwin/x86. You may find a list of RPMs I've built in end of 2004 for